How To: Slipstream Windows XP SP3 and Vista SP1

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Is this going to work on Windows 7 I wonder?

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Haven't you read all the reviews about windows 7? I think they have fixed things up now...

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Maximizer7

Dell Dimension 8400

Windows XP Professional with SP3

3.4gHz Intel Pentium 4, 4GB RAM

Operating System Disk Configured for RAID 0 (Intel ICH6R SATA RAID)

 

Tried to Slipstream.  Disk produced was successful in Slipstreaming SP3 only.  Problems encountered:

 

1) Could not install any drivers, because Dell recommends installing Dell System Software Utility before drivers, and I couldn’t figure out how to do this.

 

2) Directions say you can sequence the updates by their date.  Not true, because of inconsistent way of dating updates.

 

3.) Followed MSFN Forums advice for “@ all owners of a computer with an Intel S‑ATA AHCI or Raid system.”  Everything seemed to be okay until I read Step “3. Additional advice for the later OS installation:”  The third bullet says:

 

“You might get a problem with the installation of a 32bit OS, if you are running your computer with 4 (or more) GB of RAM.  It is a good idea to remove some RAM sticks while the installing procedure [sic].  Once the OS is up, you can reinsert the removed RAM sticks.”

 

IMO, who wants to risk creating possible trouble by un-cabling and opening the clam-style Dell tower, pulling RAM sticks, closing tower, re-cabling, slipstreaming, un-cabling, reinserting RAM sticks, closing tower, re-cabling.  If one of the RAID volume connectors comes loose, Windows can’t find it.  You end up loosing time figuring out what you did wrong regarding something that is totally unrelated to what you were trying to do.

 

Questions: 1) Is it really necessary to pull two RAM sticks,  2) How to add the Dell System Software Utility, 3) How to properly sequence updates, and 4) Is it true, that Microsoft has included a software utility, or routine, in the updates to sequence their proper order for installation, rendering sequencing updates unnecessary?

 

Apart from all this, for me, the biggest time-saver would be a batch file that would allow local installation of Microsoft Updates (I have a dial-up connection).  Tried the one recommended by Microsoft but couldn’t get it to work unless the entire character string was entered in the batch file, an onerous task to say the least.  Any comments would be appreciated.

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Maximizer7

Dell Dimension 8400

Windows XP Professional with SP3

3.4gHz Intel Pentium 4, 4GB RAM

Operating System Disk Configured for RAID 0 (Intel ICH6R SATA RAID)

 

Tried to Slipstream.  Disk produced was successful in Slipstreaming SP3 only.  Problems encountered:

 

1) Could not install any drivers, because Dell recommends installing Dell System Software Utility before drivers, and I couldn’t figure out how to do this.

 

2) Directions say you can sequence the updates by their date.  Not true, because of inconsistent way of dating updates.

 

3.) Followed MSFN Forums advice for “@ all owners of a computer with an Intel S‑ATA AHCI or Raid system.”  Everything seemed to be okay until I read Step “3. Additional advice for the later OS installation:”  The third bullet says:

 

“You might get a problem with the installation of a 32bit OS, if you are running your computer with 4 (or more) GB of RAM.  It is a good idea to remove some RAM sticks while the installing procedure [sic].  Once the OS is up, you can reinsert the removed RAM sticks.”

 

IMO, who wants to risk creating possible trouble by un-cabling and opening the clam-style Dell tower, pulling RAM sticks, closing tower, re-cabling, slipstreaming, un-cabling, reinserting RAM sticks, closing tower, re-cabling.  If one of the RAID volume connectors comes loose, Windows can’t find it.  You end up loosing time figuring out what you did wrong regarding something that is totally unrelated to what you were trying to do.

 

Questions: 1) Is it really necessary to pull two RAM sticks,  2) How to add the Dell System Software Utility, 3) How to properly sequence updates, and 4) Is it true, that Microsoft has included a software utility, or routine, in the updates to sequence their proper order for installation, rendering sequencing updates unnecessary?

 

Apart from all this, for me, the biggest time-saver would be a batch file that would allow local installation of Microsoft Updates (I have a dial-up connection).  Tried the one recommended by Microsoft but couldn’t get it to work unless the entire character string was entered in the batch file, an onerous task to say the least.  Any comments would be appreciated.

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PhoneyVirus

I got to make a new Slipstream with SP3 soon.

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MardeeT

Any reason this would or would not work for taking a Windows Server 2003 SP1 to SP2? This is pre RC for Windows Server 2003.  We have the install disk for Server 2003, SP1 only. Whenever we create a physical server we have to update to SP2, patch like hell, and then we have an updated server.  In the virtual world I created a template with SP2 installed, so that took care of that. Anyone done windows server?

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BillBurn

This was incredibly easy to set-up, thanks Maximum PC!

Just a tip for others: An easy way to add all of your non-MS drivers is to first download a driver backup program , such as WinDriversBackup.  These programs automatically create a folder of all the drivers specific to your system.  You can then just point nlite to this folder when it asks you for system specific drivers.  This is *a lot* easier than trying to find the drivers manually and results in an install with no unknown devices right off the bat.

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bandeezee

I've tried nLite with a Windows XP Pro SP1 disc with SP3 slipstreamed and it works great on Virtualbox.  What I haven't tried yet is slipstreaming all the hotfixes that come up after the install.  I've been using WinUpdateList to show me what updates I've installed since the fresh OS install, but when it takes me to the Microsoft website there's nowhere to download the WGA file.

 My question is do we have to slipstream WGA in order for the other hotfixes to install?  Is there a way to slipstream the WGA files into our disc?  I've been looking on the web and it gets pretty complex and involves add-ons like RyanVM, but I was hoping there was a way I could just do it with nLite.

 Also, will there be any issues if the hotfixes that you usually download after you verify your windows is Genuine are installed and then you install WGA?  Will the installs fail because you haven't installed WGA yet?

Sorry, many questions, but main one is do you have to slipstream WGA and if you do, how do you do it using nLite?  I guess I could test and see, but I didn't want to waste a bunch of time if someone out there already had an answer.  Thanks in advance =)

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lorencel

would this work with full home premium x64 + ultimate x64 upgrade? I use those 2 dvds whenever i restore my comp.

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lorencel

would this work with full home premium x64 + ultimate x64 upgrade? I use those 2 dvds whenever i restore my comp.

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pfm069

i'm a little lost(nothing new)but how would i turn ..say "whats Running"into a add-on !!??(for nlite)

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yr

google nlite addon and several choices will pop up. With these programs you can create an add-on that nlite will treat just like a windows update and it will install at the end of the Windows installation. If you don't use command line to set up a silent setup, the installation's install will be shown near the end of the windows install and you would install the program as you would on an already installed windows.

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Aspra

How would a nLite disc of WinXP Sp2 do with installing it with bootcamp? I only have a sp1 disc so I was think of making a Sp2(or 3 if mac allows it) version of XP.

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yr

I find it CRAZY ANNOYING having to reinstall every program every time I reinstall.

There are programs that turn ANY programs into add-ons for nlite and vlite. You can then add ANY program that you want to your install. Here are a few that I added (ALL FREEWARE):

  • dotnet 1,2 & 3
  • firefox
  • Ccleaner
  • Open office
  • 7zip 
  • ImgBurn
  • Exact Audio Copy
  • Media Player Classic / Real Alternative
  • FFDshow

You can make add-ons for almost ANY program. THIS is for power users!

I wish that the magazine would cover this, instead of just the basic slipstream.

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gothliciouz

may we know what is the name of this " power users programs"

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sinless

You said smtgh about a program which slipstreams anything ... which one ?

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yr

I google it and get results, but none of the programs seem to work, especially with Vista/7. I used several programs but nothing seemed to work properly, but there obviously must be something that can do it.

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n0ukf

Your article talks about using this process for XP Pro and Vista Home, but what about XP home? Is anything significantly different or will the same process work without changes?

 

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B5Freak

At least I proceeded that way on the assumption that the SP3 download that the article tells you to download is actually good for Home as well Pro, and I had no problems during the slipstream process. However, I haven't actually tested the ISO that nLite produced yet, as I haven't had need to nuke the current install I have on my rig, and don't yet have a test rig to experiment with. If I do get a chance to test it out, I'll update this comment with the result.

UPDATE: I recently used the DVD I burned the ISO to in order to do a clean install and it worked flawlessly.

"I know what I know because I have to know it, and if I don't have to know it, I don't tell me and I don't let anyone else tell me either."
Michael Garibaldi, Babylon 5, 2259

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sfhassan

i read this blog thoroughly, nobody has answered if x64 can be slipstreamed. I have a dell XPS 710 and i am looking for someone who has installed XP 64bit successfully.

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darkagetech

If you have a copy of XP that is pre SP1 and wish to create a slip streamed install you do not need to prep the image you create with SP1. The full installer package for SP3 that you download from the provided link in the article is a cumulitive update and contains the previous service packs.

I do how ever have one question. Does any one responding to this article know how to do an "old school" slipstream with out using nLight.  

Hope this helps clear up some of your confusion.

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nsvander

I saw that there was a lot of talk about slipstreaming SP3 into a SP0 disk.  Well I just did it a few minutes ago, and installed the system with it, and it works flawless. 

 

Also in about how to do the old school slipstream, you download the service pack, copy the contents of a XP CD to a folder, ie X:\XP-CD, and to to run type:  "X:\WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe -x"

That will extract all the files, it should prompt you to create a directory.

 Then open command prompt and type and make your way to the location of the above extracted file then type:

"WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe /integrate:X:\XP-CD"

where X:\XP-CD is the location you copied the contents of your cd to.

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Tim920810124

How did you extract the driver's .exe file?

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B5Freak

I don't know how he did it, but I can tell you how I did. Go ahead and start the .exe and when the installer asks where to extract the files, either note the default location or specify where you want them to go & click the 'Next' button. The installer will then extract the files there. Then when the installer continues to actually installing the drivers, cancel the install. The files that were extracted will still be in the folder that was created. Now, point nLite to that folder (drill down to the last folder in the nest to be certain that the .inf file is found by nLite), choose the one .inf file that shows up, and voila… you have just integrated your Nvidia driver into the slipstream!

  "I know what I know because I have to know it, and if I don't have to know it, I don't tell me and I don't let anyone else tell me either."
Michael Garibaldi, Babylon 5, 2259

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icebird

Great article!  Things like this are the reason I subscribe to MPC.  I wiped out my pc last weekend and used nlite to reload XP and it was so fast and convenient!

K

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Danimal

Your article seems easy until you try to follow it.  Download & fire up vlite is not that easy.  Vlite downloads and installs PARTIALLY.  you left out the fact that the WIM Filter needs to be installed...   That cannot be installed until WAIK is downloaded and installed.  It is an ISO file????!!!  How about giving us instructions for these steps?

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noeltb1775

I've done a run through with nlite to create a new install disk, however as I have an older motherboard (Asus A8N32 SLI), I needed to install RAID drivers during the initial build. Are you able to slipsteam in the drivers as well, or do you still need to load them during installation?

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M1K3Z0R

 from what  Ihave heard SP1 slipstreams are very messy, its not as straightforward as XP and according to http://blogs.technet.com/kevinremde/archive/2008/02/09/i-can-t-do-what-why-can-t-i-create-my-own-slipstreamed-installation-of-windows-vista-sp1.aspx you cant?

 

Anything's Hot Swappable if you're fast enough...

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watuzi

This is a very nice project to do. Can I try to install this using VMware? I just wanna know if it works or not without reinstalling it on my real PC.

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vintagegold

I'm with shadowmaster on this one - I have my original XP Installation CD that has no previous service packs with it. My understanding is that the previous service packs need to be installed before you can install SP3, so what can be done to get those bundled in there, too?

VintageGold

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M1K3Z0R

 From my understanding, service packs are cumulative, so latest SP should have all the updates included in previous ones. I recall installing service pack 4 on a clean windows 2000 install, as well as SP2 on an original XP install.

 

Anything's Hot Swappable if you're fast enough...

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TheMurph

As I mentioned below, I believe this is incorrect.  You can slap SP3 onto a fresh installation of Windows XP.  At least, unless I was using a slipstreamed disc myself, I just did this the other day.  Let me try this out Thursday and get back to you, but all signs (and my experience) leads me to believe that SP3 does not require the installation of SP1 or SP2.  The release candidate for SP3 required SP1, which might explain the confusion.

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alan6288

Can you slip stream xp and vista x64.

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vintagegold

This Microsoft Tech Net article indicates you need SP2 installed before doing SP3.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/cc164204.aspx#1

To install SP3, your computer must meet the hardware and operating
system requirements listed below. In addition, your computer must at
least be running Windows XP with Service Pack 1 installed.

We recommended that you have Service Pack 2 installed before installing SP3. You can download Service Pack 2 at the Windows XP Service Pack 2 website.

Is this information just old an outdated?

 

Is this thing on?

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scushn8r

I don't believe you've had to have previous service packs installed since NT 4.0.  You can go straight from an original unService Packed disk to putting SP3 on it. 

These instructions work great.  I created my slipstreamed disk with an un-SP'd CD and SP3 in 20 minutes.  I am using it to install XP Pro SP3 on my ASUS Eee right now.

Thanks Murph.

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Techrocket9

Could the author of this article help with the similar problem at:

 

http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=78963

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shadowmaster

I
have XP installation disc here since my computer is old, the XP
available here is service pack 0. but Sevice pack 3 requires at least
service pack 1. How can i both slipstream service pack 1 and 3 at the
same time?

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TheMurph

Are you sure SP3 requires SP1?  Looking at the Microsoft Knowledge Base article, SP3 is supported on Windows XP, Windows SP1, and Windows SP2.  In fact, I'm quite confident I just slapped SP3 on a fresh Windows XP installation in the Lab the other day.

Suffice, if your computer demands you use SP1 for some reason, here's how you slipstream both.  First, use nLite to add SP1 to your standard Windows installation files.  Don't make any other configuration changes, just follow the above directions and install the SP1 upgrade instead of the SP3 upgrade.  That's it.  Use this to create an .iso of your installation CD.

Once you've done that, fire up nLite again.  Instead of targetting your original (in this case, SP0) Windows CD, target the .iso.  You can do this either by mounting the file in a program like Daemon Tools or just burning the image to a CD.  Now slap SP3 on using the guide you've just read, and feel free to make any changes as necessary.

In short, you're doing this guide twice.  The first time, you're just making an SP1 disc.  The second time, you're making your SP3 disc along with your requisite modifications.

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