Dream Machine 2012: The Future Is Now

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deadrats

why on earth did you guys go with a pair of gaming cards and not follow through on your theme of "maximum" and go with an ultra high end workstation video card? xeon, workstation class card and gaming cards? really? a quadro 6000 and maybe a telsa c2075, maybe a high end nic card and hook it all up to a 60" high end tv.

what the hell, have the case dipped in gold, then liquid cool it by dropping the whole setup in a mineral oil bath.

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elbrujosalas

You paid $700 for that lame paint job? at this point I would take that money out of the paycheck from whomever manages the budget for this project! What about the art director??? I guess geeks have no taste and know little about art but still $700 is a lot for so little.
Later

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DocBogus

Geek Barbie Special Edition. Available in pink?

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NSain

how about a forum built dream machine? Everyone gets 1 vote on parts used, maxpc gets it built and benches it. Maybe even compare it to a maxpc staff choice dream machine.

Just my 2 cents...(before taxes)

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iplayoneasy

I liked the processor choice. Scaling would have been higher with an overclocked i5, but then it would only be a gaming machine. My computer spends most of its time crunching away with ProE and Solid Works models, and that 8 core Xeon is perfect for that. I would like to see this trend of "computers not just for gaming" continue for the Mag. The last 4 computers i built had only gt 520 cards. They were built to run ProTools. Top hardware not being used to just play the latest game on high. They were built for getting actual work done. Keep this sort of thing in mind.

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NavarWynn

This is a nice build. Not my personal style, but still nice (in particular the blue liquid (though I'm more partial to day-glow green). I'm a little confused though why MPC didn't take the logical next steps:

1) 2 Xeons (I've been running various incarnations for the last decade, and they inevitably blow the pants off a single Xeon - surely the boards are out there)

2) A full complement of RAM (my dell workstation (from 2005!) supported 64gb - admittedly a little overkill back then, but w/ a virtual drive in the RAM, there's no reason not to crank it up to 96 or 128gb)

2) Six monitors (Got six connectors, and 2x 3monitor capable GPUs... why not run six 30"ers?)

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pastorbob

When I was a teen growing up, I was into modifying and building fast cars. Everybody had their preferences; Chevy, Ford or Mopar, Holly carbs over Rochester or Carter, etc. etc. But along with that we all read the magazines related to the interest. Hot Rod, Street Rod, Car & Driver and so on. There were all kinds of machines in those mags that were way beyond our price ranges but that didn't stop us from admiring the builds and drooling. There were also cars covered that none of us would dream of owning because they were too butt ugly or they were not to our tastes. But we damn sure didn't whine and complain about the mags covering the same old topics over and over.
That is what they were about.

Not much difference here guys. If you don't like what is covered then don't read it. Go read MacWorld or some other rag that is more up your alleys.

My comments are NOT directed at those who just don't like the build for various reasons. I agree with many of the criticisms.

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don2041

$700 for that paint job is not a dream its a nightmare!!!

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Electrik

Nice touch on the white cables. I didn't know you could get white cables.

An optical cable with a nice 7.1 Denon receiver with Polk Aduio towers would really piss the neighbors off.

Good jerb!

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limitbreaker

You can't get anything passed stereo with optical cables unless you're willing to downgrade all your sound to dts or ac3. What you'd need to get 24bit lossless sound in 7.1 is hdmi sound which is quite possible with all those extra hdmi on the video cards. It would also free us off that horrid motherboard integrated sound.

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Electrik

Yeah, you're right. I'm currently using optical to my Sony receiver in stereo, but my cramped apartment won't allow much more. I handbuild my speakers so they sound great, but I usually use my Scullcrusher headphones for gaming.

The point is, why spend so much and use a crappy sound system? Splurge a little.

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usernonfriendly

honestly, its kinda annoying to see repeated mentions about SR-X and why they didnt use it. i will put aside the obvious (of which i hope all of you are aware of at the very least) for now. one of the less obviouse points if that the SR-X is an hptx form factor. simply put, the SR-X is too big and will go past the 180mm fan mountings. not to mention very few commcercially produced case can support hptx and even fewer can beat the tj11 in looks and function. another point is that EVGA is not known for their motherboards, unlike asus, gigabyte, and msi who have proven themselves time and again and are pretty much the top dogs for motherboards. and for the obvious reason (even if another case was chosen that can support hptx): COLOR SCHEME! its red. not even red, its more like pinkish/orangeish red. translation: it has no place in this build since looks also matter. if you cant tell the main colors are black, white, and light blue. the asus board fits in perfectly. its not like its advisable to paint a motherboard either.

and to top it all off, the performance is disappointing. reviews are out there saying it did not noticeably surpass, if at all, an equivalent asus boards in anything worth mentioning, especially anything workstation related and at a much higher price. asus pretty much took it all: performance, looks, board layout, you name it. all in all, not worth getting or mentioning even if money is no object.

as a side not even the dual xeon from asus could fit in the tj11 comfortably, so they went with the next best thing: the best single xeon board, also from asus

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Andrew.Hodge

SRX is Extended-ATX. They redesigned it to fit more cases. So far as color scheme, they didn't have to go blue and white, and even if they did, I have seen some motherboards painted before. The ASUS dual 2011 would have been my choice. It wouldn't have been too much of a mod to make sure that it fit in the case.

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Andrew.Hodge

SRX is Extended-ATX. They redesigned it to fit more cases. So far as color scheme, they didn't have to go blue and white, and even if they did, I have seen some motherboards painted before. The ASUS dual 2011 would have been my choice. It wouldn't have been too much of a mod to make sure that it fit in the case.

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usernonfriendly

E-atx's are 13 inches wide at most while the sr-x, as well as the sr-2, is 15 inches wide (or tall in the case of using the tj11). The asus dual is an EEB form factor and may fit if one or both 180 mm fans ars taken out, but would leave the lower half of the board hanging off the motherboard tray unsupported without standoffs and screws. I guess you could mod the tray, but i feel that is more of a personal decision and is just outside of what mcp is doing

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Andrew.Hodge

Just checked newegg and I see what you mean. Still would have been cool to see them mod the case to fit it, though- or have a completely custom case built.

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GenMasterB

I would love to see some side by side specs between the DM from 1995 and your new DM.
I know most new benchmarking wont work on the older rig, but I mean head to head paper specs from manufacturers then and now. Curious to see how far we've come on basic computations. like how long to reach Pi.. how long it took to render 10000 polys w/textures, MHz to GHz, etc.
make for a cool article and look back. and then another 17 yrs from now???? interesting....

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davidtuerk

The future is now. The offspring, Great song ;D

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satrain18

I'll keep the case, CPU, RAM, the two GTX290s, the two SSDs, ONE HDD (put the other two in my NAS) and the keyboard and mouse. I will swap the mobo for the EVGA Classified SR-X, plop in a second Xeon, 32GB of more RAM (for a total of 96GB), a ASUS Xonar sound card and a Blu-Ray burner. I also believed they installed Windows by putting the DVD on a USB stick.

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Helrich

I made an account just to comment on how terrible this computer is. But I guess the dream machines are only supposed to be good for aesthetics (even though I think this machine is ugly as sin). It's pretty funny though how you just went and looked up what the most expensive parts were even though they're all also the most outrageously overpriced gimmicky parts out there.

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ERSZ

Your a freaking moron if you truly believe that

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Andrew.Hodge

Aesthetics? No, that is not all what the dream machine is about.

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kixofmyg0t

I know I'm supposed to be impressed by a $14K PC....but I'm just meh about it.

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steven4570

then why do you read or comment on this website? all you do is troll.

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theriot72

Custom smurf spooge cooling liquid

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noobstix

The color scheme reminds me of the P.O.S. Macs I used in high school.

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merlin3650

I was wondering. With adding a Workstation motherboard, why did you go with this instead of the EVGA SR-X? Is there something wrong with it?

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Dorito Bandit

For just a measly $465 dollars more, you could have added Logitech's USB Ball-sack massager! Which reminds me, got to go download the latest driver for it.

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praack

closest to a dream machine i have seen in years - actually good work0 like the resevoir in the case

course i would never have the money to put it together

course i could always dream of having some of those parts

dream

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Gman3968

That has to be the FUGLIEST paint job I have ever seen!!! I would not even let that near my house. I understand about form following function, but this is hideous. The colors could be so much more vivid and leaned more to the aggressive side and show what this "machine" was supposed to be about. It is also the lamest build since I have begun reading the magazine. I would love to have dream machine of 2009. It was the most aggressive and beautiful computers ever built. I don't understand why you won't bother to test the parts side by side and put the best in the build. If it were up to me, I would fire all of you and rebuild the magazine.

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Zoandar

White and powder blue!? Really?? And at $590??? I'd also like to see how fugly it gets with all the (mostly black) cables spewing out the top of the case. Thank you, Maximum iMac.

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Wonko33

It's not my dream until it has 3 monitors on swivel wallmounts to switch them from landscape to portrait,

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hammeredtoast

Oh, in a world where money grows on trees, I'd make sure my company had a couple of these lying around for After Effects.

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ness64

Wow!!! WANT!!! Sadly, parts are so expensive down here in Southeast Asia... (T^T)

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strwrsfrk

The gamut of responses to this is hilarious. This is a "Dream Machine," designed to fulfill someone's fantasy. Is it your precise fantasy? Probably not. Is it generally obtainable or realistic? Probably not.

And that's much of the point.

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keyzs

ahhh..... blisss..... :-)

long live the PC!!!!

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Andrew.Hodge

..aaaaand here come the "good enough" "why didn't you build a tablet, because that's all anyone needs today, anyways" comments from people who don't know what the word maximum means.

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spoonard

That is the goddamn ugliest case I have ever seen. All those drive bays on the front just look fucking stupid. I like the colors, but the external features of the case are retarded looking.

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pastorbob

Personally, I really like it. But as they say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

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Baer

I agree, I really like it also. And; anyone that has to stoop to profanity to make their point imediatly looses credability.

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Andrew.Hodge

*beerholder

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bruno_polar

This is silly it's just money where is the fun in that. I rather see a mid range pc moded and oveeclocked to all hell. Oh how I miss the days of simple and exciting pencil mods.

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Morpheous416

"Conventional wisdom says that PC performance doesn’t matter anymore. That’s because the average consumer, the average gamer, and the average PC jockey can’t tell the difference between a slow POS machine and a fast one. Well guess what, baby? That’s a bunch of crap."

Time to get the old ketchup bottle out.. might make these words taste a bit better.

I have to agree with those that have posted before me.

1. Conventional wisdom. Wisdom is defined by the experience of learning thru time, and becoming better that what you were. Wisdom here, simply dictates that $15,000 for a computer is waste... nothing more.. nothing less.
2. The average consumer, gamer, and PC jockey doesn't need to know the difference between a system that does what they need, vs one that can play ten iterations of Crisis and still fold for both NASA, SETI, and for cancer research all at the same time.

What's a bunch of crap is.. selling the same material to your dedicated fans year after year, and calling it Maximum.. peeps, there's some things here we add to our daily lives, but slapping together the world's most expensive pc components together, and calling it a Dream Machine.. well, is making me crave the return of the Yugo.

Seriously... what in the hell do you do with that machine after you've begged the owner(s) at the table for a budget to build this thing? And don't tell me you send it off to Make a Wish foundation either..

If you're so intent, on continuing to throw away this kind of money.. I am sure we as your fans, could come up with more productive uses.

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maverick knight

A Yugo and a Ferrari can achieve the same result taking you from point A to point B. A Dream will be to do it in a Ferrari, or a Bugatti Veyron rather than in a Yugo. If you do not have the money then "conventional wisdom" will make you settle for what you need. It is like you missed the whole point of the Dream Machine.

I wish I could afford two 512GB SSD and a paint job like that, too.

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Morpheous416

No... it's like everyone is missing the point, that the Dream Machine is the same thing year after year...

The most expensive parts put together.

End of story.

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HVDynamo

It would be you that is missing the point. The Dream Machine is exactly that, the computer I would want if money is no object. Of course it's the same idea every year, so is the concert for your favorite band that you have to go to every year. It's different because it shows how the technology is evolving just like this years Ferrari wouldn't be as interesting if it didn't include the newest technology. It's interesting and will never cease to be interesting to someone who is a true PC enthusiast much in the same way a car enthusiast loves to dream about his/her yearly redesign of their favorite car. I think it's cool to see what I could do with a PC if I didn't care about money, I know I would never realistically spend that much on one, but it's fun regardless. If you think this is ridiculous then maybe you should be reading the articles for the budget boxes that come up occasionally. This is a publication geared to cover everything PC, and its name is MaximumPC so I think it is great that they show us just what the most awesome PC can do, and give us practical advice on how to choose what is right for you. Keep up the great work guys!

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Andrew.Hodge

Damn straight. Wish I could upvote.

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Bean Bandit

Honestly the Dream Machine is getting rather old and boring. You guys need to do something new and put this thing to bed.

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Baer

I disagree. I do a mostly maxed out build every few years and while I do not always agree with the MPC choices sometimes they do something that makes me reconsider and take a different direction.
If this magazine or site ever goes to mostly iKiddie things then I am outta here. Keep on doing the Dream Machine MPC. If some do not like it they can just not read it as I do with some of your other features.

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HiGHRoLLeR038

its like the signature maximum PC! what would MPC be without one?

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