Lights, Camera, Action: THQ Releases 12 Minutes of Gorgeous Metro: Last Light Footage

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ubhhbuyhbu

Looks more like modern day Moscow.  You sure this is based in the future?  jk

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Holly Golightly

Oh, simply stunning! Hopefully this game does not come with SteamWorks. It is the one thing that stopped me from considering the first part. Sigh... These graphics are jaw dropping! Who needs Battlefield 3 when we have this?

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smashingpumpin

Oh wow, you didn't bought the original Metro coz of Steam?  Didn't you complain a lot on recent post about gamers not buying BF3 coz of Origin and yet here you are stating a case of an exact opposite.

You Sir/Ma'am are a bonafide Steam Troller!

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Holly Golightly

Hey, I want to own my games and not be forced to run any additional clients. What, I have to get a game just because it run on Steam? The hell with that! The difference between Steam and Origins is that Steam forces you to run the client where Origins is not required to run at all... If anything, it is you who is the troll.

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smashingpumpin

"Hopefully this game does not come with SteamWorks. It is the one thing that stopped me from considering the first part."- Pfft, you said this and you're the right person to tell off people who sworn not to buy BF3 coz of Origin from countless previous post?? Most gamers love the convenience of having it all on one Account so just deal with it.

Don't get me wrong, Steam is no where "perfect" but alot of it's favorable features which everyone already mentions in previous post outweighs "offline mode" or running a "client". The only "real" bummer for Steam are "Single-player only games" but why would one buy it off Steam in the first place when it's not exclusive to Steam. That being said, it's easy and kinda obvious to generalize everyone who hates Steam into two groups of people - people with old PC's and people with unstable internet.

Heck I'm running Steam right now and this lone website I'm writing to in Chrome and guess what uses more memory using Windows Task Manager?- I'ts Chrome! (56,528k Steam V.S. 68,544k of used memory for Chrome! and not so much on CPU usage for both)

As for BF3, I'll surely try Origin but... I'll be playing the waiting game and no Pre-orders here as I'm pretty confident that BF3 would be on Steam within 4 months knowing MW3 already has Steam Pre-orders as of last week. Fat kid Dice would hate losing some of that big scrumptious pie coz  Mother EA insist of giving them just one slice.

Why the Hell are u paranoid about a client anyways? You're already running a lot of it under Windows Task Manager on so called "Services Tab" and a lot of them aren't really critical to Windows day-to-day task or gaming.

Upgrade your damn computer or internet before you troll on Steam will'ya? 

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Holly Golightly

I don't need to upgrade my computer or my broadband. Everything works perfectly fine. I just don't like inefficiencies. Running an extra program is redundant. I could have saved an additional 56.5mb of RAM! I do not launch the internet while gaming, so the chrome problem is no major issue for me. So I save an additional 68.5mb of RAM again. 125mb of RAM sure has to count for something. We should have to settle for less, and Steam gives us PC Gamers less free. Why game on a PC if you can not enjoy the one true advantage of PC Gaming, which is to be able to game on an open platform? There is no difference between XboxLive and Steam... Which should be an insult of PC Gamers... You are dealing with a flawed client... Deal with it! As for Services tab, yes, I dealt with that thanks to Black Viper... My system boots much faster. I don't want my PC running all that junk. Sigh... It is sad to see PC Gamers be perfectly fine with limiting themselves. PCs have been consolized... Enjoy playing console ports with your Xbox 360 controller connected to your PC with Steam... Sigh, and people often question whether PC Gaming is dead... It sort of does when you see things the way they are... Sigh. I will continue to game with my keyboard and mouse on a relatively open platform until it is fully dead. At least Origins is not forceful... Making it a comforting thing for old school PC Gamers.

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smashingpumpin

 "I could have saved an additional 56.5mb of RAM! I do not launch the internet while gaming, so the chrome problem is no major issue for me."--- Umm, really?? You just dont get it do ya? I've mention Chrome just to compare how less memory Steam uses when the client is running, Heck even Steam uses less memory compared to Chrome with one website on Idle (it was maximumpc.com replying to your post). That said, Steam is not a resource hog! Learn about Steam's settings, especially unchecking "Blotter settings/notifications" and pause ALL your damn game updates before playing. 

I admit Steam used to be a resource hog back in it's early years when most gamers had a budget-built PC built around  1 or 2 GB of ram and under 2 Ghz of Cpu  (no dual or quadcores). Without telling me your PC specs you're using for gaming, I can already tell you seriously need an upgrade. You're whining about a measly 56.5mb of ram usage where most bang-for-buck built PC's are spec'd at 6- 8GB of ram nowadays and you could easily go by a with a cheap AMD cpu. Are you a recent console to PC gamer by any chance? coz you really do sound like one. 

Don't even get me started on the "PC gaming is dead" dilemma. It was never dead or dying, but just moved online when stores stop carrying  PC titles in favor of frickin console titles thinking they were more marketable than it's  PC counterparts. Tell me when was the last time you saw a PC title sold locally? Heck maybe we can even blame Devs themselves for blaming Piracy for the dissapearing act but one thing Steam did was kept PC well and alive today. You can thank/hate CStrike and HL2 as well where huge flock of PC gamers finally gave in and settle on an online store which gave Steam it's roots IMO.

"Enjoy playing console ports with your Xbox 360 controller connected to your PC with Steam"---wait what did you just say!?!? You mean Steam is full of console-ported games or are you saying I'm a console diehard fanboy with a 360 controller hooked to a PC?- not that theres anything wrong with that, gamepads are great for alot of genres cept for FPS and RTS (I own a Logitech F510, G9 mouse and a trusty Exactmat). If it's the latter  then it's a No, I don't own a 360 or a PS3 but would love to have one for media streaming. Pfft you're the one with the frickin Wii or 360 Avatar.

 "At least Origins is not forceful... Making it a comforting thing for old school PC Gamers."--really? Wow looks like  alot of old school games in there really. A lot of Indie games promoting Indie Devs, and not a whole lot of redundant Sport titles. Steam's store looks so puny compared to it. (SARCASM)

http://store.origin.com/store/ea/en_US/DisplayCategoryProductListPage/ThemeID.718200&categoryID=8831900&childCategoryID=8837500

Don't even think about blaming Steam for all the Crysis 2/BF3 dissapearing act. It's clearly EA who wants all the cash to itself since they're marketing a new online store to compete. Blame "Game Exclusivity" on both stores really but let me tell you this, alot of Sims 3 DLC's  are on Steam (Maybe Will Wright beg the hell out of EA to cash in on Steamers knowing theres alot of Sims players out there on a Mac, lol) , which just means it's that easy to work on frickin DLC's to be compatible with Steam if only the developers weren't that lazy enough to code it and make it happen and aren't being roosterblocked by greedy EA. (Mass Effect 2 buyers on Steam, I feel your pain)

I can't help but think you're a paid EA commenter on this site bashing Steam whenever you can based on the tone of most of what you post here and there and by this, I end posting here. Kinda hard to debate with you when you are clearly biased and misinformed!

P.S. Tell EA Big Thanks for ruining Westwood and the C&C Franchise!

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Holly Golightly

Haa haa haa... Yes, I am from the old school, and in transition of upgrading as we speak. I still game on my G15... Yes, the original one. I still use an 8800GTX and 4GB of RAM with an Intel Core2Quad Q6600. I am aware my system is old... And like I said earlier, I am in process of upgrading. This XPS was from the year 2008.

I am starting to feel that Steam fanboys are far more pathetic than Mac fanboys. And here I thought the Apple followers were as pathetic as they came. I mean, they are are blind as the console fanboys... Just check how blind you were from the get-go with this amazing MaximumPC article.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/what_twist_valve_%E2%80%93_not_ea_%E2%80%93_removed_crysis_2_steam

Whoa, what a twist... Did you just see what I think you just saw? My, my... It is okay... Valve is just as evil and greedy. Hey, did you know you can play Origin games on Steam but can not play Steam games on Origin... How F'd up is that? Actually you can connect any other game onto Steam, but can not play steam games on other, more kinder platforms like Direct 2 Drive's Game Comrade. What a shame. Steam is such a closed platform. The Kindle software equivilant of games. A redunant closed format. I do not understand why you, or anybody else would be okay with being limited. Don't you like sales and good competition? I hate monopolies! 

I do not work for EA or their affliates... But it is apparent that you were brainwashed by Gabe Newell. EA also makes plenty of great games like the Sims and American McGee's Alice. They make games for both genders. Valve seems to mostly focus on shooters like Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress 2. Soo much guns and violence. I like girly games... And Valve has not produced much of their own.

Wow, you just said that a huge flock of PC Gamers had given in to / settle with Steam... Seems like Steam is not the native choice to most PC gamers... Isn't it? Steam was a resource hog, and it will always take up resources as long as you required to run the mandatory client. Sigh... How could anybody be okay with this. Am I the only American who likes competition? You know Amazon Games OnDemand has better discounts on non-indie games.

Yeah, I am aware that Origins has such a small collection of games. I mean, how long ago was Origins launched? A month ago? I am pretty sure Valve's Steam was worst off on its first month with just 2 games. Origins has what, 16? Much better start in my opinion... And with a big budget game like BF3, we can clearly see a much larger "flock" over. The good news is, you are not forced to play BF3 on Origins, you can buy it at any of the other 150 digital distribution stores available to America. This is great news... You can simply just import your non-steam titles to Steam, and bam, you game on your favorite close ended platform.

It seems that you are the one who is biased and missed inform if you defend steam to the very end... You too probably was a part of that flock that settled with Steam... Don't worry, you now have a choice. 

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smashingpumpin

gabe-newell-wants-ea-on-steam-and-is-polite-about-it- search this on goorgle coz apparently MaxPC is denying my post for SPAM and I suspect the links.

CONVENIENCE + Features (I won't even name one as there are shitloads and writing it all down here feels redundant when everyone already mentioned most of it from previous post!)

Yes I was part of the flock, at one point everyone was so used to flashy retail boxes with CD's on 'em and buying games off of Wally/Bbuy before they dissappeared, and you've guessed it, most PC gamers were hesitant but settled unto Steam and liked what they saw and built they're huge game library from there on. There's going to be a monopoly one way or the other. Steam wasn't the only online store at that time y'know, there was Stardock (Now called Impulse) and others. It simply stood out, although quite a resource hog way back then.  

...About the link you gave me, ofcourse it was Steam who pulled it out coz EA won't allow compatibility for their own greedy reasons. Right on EA, Blame it on Steam's TOS

Damn, I feel like I'm going in circles with you. Didn't you just red this part I've mention earlier:

"Don't even think about blaming Steam for all the Crysis 2/BF3/dissapearing act. It's clearly EA who wants all the cash to itself since they're marketing a new online store to compete. Blame "Game Exclusivity" on both stores really but let me tell you this, alot of Sims 3 DLC's  are on Steam (Maybe Will Wright beg the hell out of EA to cash in on Steamers knowing theres alot of Sims players out there on a Mac, lol) , which just means it's that easy to work on frickin DLC's to be compatible with Steam if only the developers weren't that lazy enough to code it and make it happen and aren't being roosterblocked by greedy EA. (Mass Effect 2 buyers on Steam, I feel your pain)"

I'll just leave this here (what'dya know, Steam does DLC's in addition to Sims 3!!, Heck it's even compatible with the dreaded Games for windows Live client- trust me, I've got the original Bioshock)**

(**link was suppose to be in here but MaxPC is being a b1sh on posting links thinking they're spam so actually just type in and search for "DLC"  on Steam store)

Wow, BF3 will be on the other 150 digital distribution stores except Steam you say? (Oh, How greedy of you EA, last time I heard, BF3, retailed ones even, will still require Origin to download patches and whatnot. Isn't that considered a "client" as well?) 

Ugh, seriously this would be my last post here...

Ever notice why it's mostly EA's New games being pullled off Steam when clearly Steam wouldn't want to otherwise lose a potential cash maker on those games? Oh right... Origin. Even if let's say Steam would still sell those games sans DLC, (especially RPG,s that rely on DLC's for even more replayability) would you rather buy it off Steam knowing the greedy Origin bastard are the only ones offering DLC's for it? Exactly!

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h e x e n

I agree with Recid. Steam is a necessary evil, unfortunately. It's not ideal, but it does have some perks to balance out the bad.

Still, individual preference I suppose.

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Holly Golightly

I guess so... Still we should not have to settle with any evils. As PC Gamers, we got the best of the best in hardware, we should be allowed the best of the best software. Yet, for some odd reason, we are required to run useless clients during a graphic intensive game.

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Recidivist

If you're a PC gamer you should have Steam. I can't imagine why it would turn you away from buying the game...

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Holly Golightly

This is why I became a PC Gamer, I prefer to game on an open platform. Steam forces gamers to run a client, making it more of a closed client. I remember a time PC Gamers did not have to run Steam to be called PC Gamers. Gosh I miss those good old times. Steam Works is like AT&T of PC Gaming. Super limited, and mega greedy makes it self destructive. Where the customers have to stick with one brand for life of else. Forcing other people to use their service. Come on, I should not have to buy a boxed copy and be forced to run Steam, I am sorry. Hard copies and digital storefronts should never mix... This is why I am turned off with buying any game with SteamWorks DRM.

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Duck Dodgers

Yeah, call me a sheep but Steam is the best thing to happen to my video game collection.

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