Fox News Decides That Videogames Cause Rape, Gets Taken to Task by Real Journalists

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Keiso50

Nathan, you appeared to have caught yourself.  This isn't a battle against Fox News.  Every cable outlet is guilty of slamming video games.  This is a 1st amendment issue at its very core.  Our latest Supreme Court appointee has the opinion that pornography should be made illegal and a liberal state, California, seems to be clamping down on video game sales the most.  The question everyone needs to ask is, "How much government do I want in my life?"  Elections still work. These last 4 years have been testament to that. Gamers need to identify those who would infringe on our pastime and keep them out of DC. 

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Nyarlathotep

When this type of BS goes on in the media I feel it's everyones job to call them out. I honestly felt the original tone of the article was couterproductive. I appreciate the revision you made to your story Nathan. I don't think it lost any of it's effectiveness after the update.

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pdogii

You nailed it. Don't let over-the-top rhetoric cloud a good analysis. Did you read or hear other news outlets unfairly reporting about this game or the games vs. psychopaths?

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Myzzy

It was a well done article and was on a great point regarding the gaming community. After reading it two times over I did not feel it was "politically charged" like many have claimed. It was stating the facts of a company that misleads the truth to get attention and ratings. Again, great article and thank you for keeping people informed even if they do not like it!

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merrygoround

I just want to comment that I liked the article, I'm not a fan of Fox News, and I will continue to read MaximumPC.  And, like people have already stated, I, too, do not find this to be political subject matter.  It's of a social nature.  I also think there is something to be said about the way certain people react when you point out that Fox News doesn't provide accurate information, and that their "News" is often Opinion. But, I'm not going to say it.

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johnny3144

do the guys over at fox news understand what a satire is? perhaps a grade 11 english book would help.

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Nolndi

I applaud this article and the fact that maximum pc posted it.

I am however shocked at some of the responses people have had to this article. Feel free to disagree with someone, you have that right. Maximum PC and the people it employs do as well. If you feel as though they are inaccurately portraying fox news thats one matter.

But this article is not political, its an open criticism of poor journalism, blatant lies, and the fact that it was published by a "news" network. If you like fox news, alright i can't keep you from watching it. I can't stop you from believeing them, nor am i going to attempt to.

But those who are attacking this article or its writer on the basis of being "political" or threating to "stop reading maximum pc" because you disagree with an article, need to take a seat and realize that freedom of speech applies to everyone not just those you agree with. 

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moisesiza3

i think it is the unprofessional way of expressing your discontent with foxnews thats gives you an anti-foxnews slant and causing everyone to feel it is politically charged. even thought it is not.  but you trying to be witty and funny in the way you wrot it gave me the same feeling and i am also turned-off by it. i had not logged on in a while but i needed something to read so i thought i would check it out and this kind of article does not interest me. if you would have also stuck to being professional like you complain about fox news it would be an easier read.

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Myzzy

Learn to write a real response before you criticize a person. Heard of proof reading your own response? (wrot, foxnews, capitalization, fragmented sentences?). Also you constantly contradict your own arguments ("thats gives you an anti-foxnews slant and causing everyone to feel it is politically charged. even thought it is not.") What? That does not even make sense.

These kinds of unthought/reviewed responses only hurt the online community. But hey, I am sure you don’t care because you are just out to fight anything, even without thought or real effort.

If you do not like an article, STOP READING IT. Seriously. If you do not like a point of view or opinion of a person. Stop reading it and move on.

This was a good article and was well done. Made a great point that I agreed with. If you do not agree. Go back to Fox News and enjoy your lies.

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moisesiza3

Thats all you can do, attack me on my writing. I liked the article and i dont watch foxnews. Go back to watching MSNBS wont you.

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pdogii

1. Don't criticize others' work with checking your own.

2. Don't attack other people for their ideas. If you will notice the author agrees with this poster, at least to the point where the message was lost over the author's choice of words.

 

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mesiah

Ok, it is your comments that "hurt the online community." The OP voiced a valid opinion with constructive criticism. While I don't really agree with him, there is nothing wrong with that. The comments obviously upset you, and you fired back with the typical grammar and spelling nazi BS that is the crutch of people who can't find a real point to argue. Quit wasting peoples time by pointing out a few honest spelling mistakes and quit trying to stifle constructive criticism just because you don't agree with it and get your panties in a bunch.

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Lord Omega

Or really any other news channel... They always seem to get crap scewed way out of proportion and it is rather annoying. I can understand making money, but COME ON! How about we force every one of these nub cakes to play Bulletstorm till their eyes bleed and hands fall off. I think that will given thema  different view. 

 

POWER TO THE GAMERS! UNITE!

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Ilander

Nathan:

Don't listen to the FN apologists below.  Keep telling the truth as long as you can, and eventually, it might make a difference.  Thanks for the info.

Now, as to the FN apologists above: there are times when you really don't have to defend them.  I don't defend anybody that much.  If FN reports are blatantly incorrect, calling them out on it doesn't even seem to register with anyone, anymore, since they have such a fanbase that can't handle ever being wrong.

Guess what?  Politics and tech coincide sometimes.  If there's a change in US/China relations, our chip prices go up.  If the price of oil goes up, then Intel starts releasing "green" chips.  If the tech companies have to offer healthcare, they bellyache just like all the other companies do.

They're not distinct concepts.  They're all part of the human process.

PS: FN apologists, calling you apologists is a bit of a straw-man argument, I know.  You're people, too.  I just want to make it clear that you're really performing some mental olympics to justify this stuff, and you don't have to---just, let them be wrong.  Sometimes, real journalists make mistakes, and that's how you know they're good ones, because they let you know.

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Maximillian_Of_...

Can you Please link to all the information you have presented us with? without providing proof you may as well be selectively quoting the article mentiioned.

PS

Fox sucks, better, all political media stations suck.

Stick to hardware, even vaporware not hot air.

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AndyYankee17

I was thinking the same thing. Most people who watch the daily show think Fox News is constant right wing talk simply because that's all John Stewart shows. For a fair debate link to the actual article. I hope you don't consider yourself a "real journalist" Nathan.

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Danthrax66

http://i.imgur.com/KfkJS.jpg

 

No one should ever link to fox news.

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Kitzinger1

If you want just liberal readers then advertise yourself as LiberalPC or something.

I really enjoy reading this website and have done so for at least four years (more like seven).  I come here faithfully two maybe three times a day, every day, for years.  It's my favorite web site.  Today, this author made me feel like not coming here ever again.

I hope this article isn't the sign of things to come.  If it is then I'll move on for a couple of years.  I don't come here to read some liberals opinion on "Fox" News.  If I wanted to read liberal crap I would just go to Newsvine or the Huffington Post.

Well, you got me to sign up at least but you did it in the worst manner possible.  Since I'm here I have to agree with the above about the change also.  I liked the old version much better.

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Vahn16

A fun fact that ought to clear some things up: I'm a republican. For crap's sake, I live in Texas. Can't I at least live up to that part of the stereotype?

But I very much disapprove of Fox News' factually inaccurate reporting, and this isn't the first time they've demonized video games in an attempt to get attention. Also, Fox News may not have directly said "games cause rape," but they built their questions in such a way as to ellicit that sort of response, and then did nothing to shoot down the obvious falsehood of it all. They could have at least said "however, recent studies have shown... etc."

So yeah, hope that clears things up.

--Nathan Grayson

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carnivorousslushee23

Agree with you completely here, Nathan.  FOX has a bad history of demonizing video games (Mass Effect, anyone?  I'm Republican too, but that episode had me laughing my posterior off at them) and this issue with Bulletstorm is just another instance of them overreacting, for ratings or what have you.  I'm still laughing.

However, I feel compelled, as a perpetual grammar/spelling snob, to point out that you misspelled 'elicit.'

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Kitzinger1

The article is much better and doesn't come off as op-ed.

Thank You.

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Slugbait

If this game twists their panties in such a bunch, I can't wait to see what FOX will say come May 3rd...

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Nyarlathotep

When "mass media" filters the news being passed on they should be called out by their peers at the very least. I do however feel that the tone of this article is unprofessional.

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SPARTAN-501

This might have something to do with politics, but the truth is, this is NEWS. It's unfortunate for all of us that this shit has to go on Maximum PC, but it's Fox News that started it. Blame the source. And blame the biased retards who insist on spewing out an opinion that they don't know jack shit about.
Video games don't promote rape and you know it. And when you quote an expert (for the sake of argument let's assume he's qualified to give an unbiased opinion), you don't quote him selectively. It's like quoting that one line from Col. Rhodes' report on Iron Man, in which he says the Iron Man weapon might pose a threat to national security. Well guess what, the rest of the whole fucking report is about how having Iron Man around is a good thing.

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OS-Wiz

Fox news didn't say video games cause rape.  Here's the quote Carol Lieberman made, not Fox News:  "

Carol Lieberman, a psychologist and book author, told FoxNews.com that sexual situations and acts in video games -- highlighted so well in Bulletstorm -- have led to real-world sexual violence.  “The increase in rapes can be attributed in large part to the playing out of [sexual] scenes in video games,” she said." 

And I agree, please keep politics out of your posts.  And assign the correct quotes to the correct source.

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Carlidan

Isn't Bulletstorm a video game? So if someone sees sexual scenes, they will rape someone. Didn't know. Don't care for fox news .

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JusTalkin

This is some tech writer going off on a political statement bashing Fox News.  I come here for tech, not your political tyrades.  You wanna really screw up a good thing, keep up this kind of blind rant misquoting something that can easily be verified by reading the actual article.  Did you not link to it in hopes that your misquote wouldn't be found out?

Get back to tech and keep your political rants to yourself.  Better yet, get a job writing about politics and leave the tech writing to the real professionals.

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carickw

So the bulletstorm demo, which has been out for 2 weeks would have an effect on the 30 year rape rates? Not that I know how the number of rapes has changed over the last 2 weeks, and I highly doubt that Bulletstorm actually had an effect on it, but saying that Fox is wrong due to completely unrealated statistics is just a bad argument. 

Edit: When I read this article, it seemed that FoxNews was purely talking about Bulletstorm, which apparently isnt the case.

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meangenedrlove

I agree with baileya1c...this could've been a fine article without the anti-FoxNews rant.

Having read the article at FoxNews.com, I can say that the article is aimed at parents...it is a warning for parents to be aware of the content of the games their children may be playing. It did not imply that gamers are rapists. What it did say was that early exposure to the language, gore, violence, and overtly sexual content (verbal or otherwise) can be developmentally harmful to kids that are extremely impressionable.

While the FoxNews article does have an obvious agenda, I do not see how someone can seriously take offense to it like Mr. Grayson has--unless he has his own agenda in attempting to discredit FoxNews (or CNN, MSNBC, CBS, et. al.) as a legitmate news organization, which BTW, has nothing to do with MaximumPC and Gaming.

Let's stick with our areas of expertise, please. We can find the political content of our choosing elsewhere.

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Maktaka

What politics? Here are the comments they make about FOX News, please, tell me which one you think is politicizing the situation:

"Fox clearly wants attention, and it'll use any underhanded tactic to jab at the public eye until it's blind." Selectively quoting and using fake experts? That's not underhanded to you?

"So we're not going to talk about Fox or its alleged 'experts.'" Are you saying that FOX News DID interview real experts in the field and used their information on the article?

[Selective quoting] Did they not do this, or did I miss a part of the article where they included the full quote from Mr. Pidgeon?

"Fox's highly targeted lies." The "experts" they interviewed lied, rape as well as general violent crime have gone down dramatically since the introduction of video games. FOX publishes those statements. Ergo, FOX News published lies.

I'm really not seeing why you're upset that FOX is getting taken to task here. They published an article using selective quoting to avoid lending human credence to the "adult games are for adults" angle, while publishing extensive quotes from liars. That's agenda-driven reporting done in the name of sensationalism. Nowhere does Maximum PC say anything political.

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Baer

Every news outlet has had something negative to say about gaming at one time or another. Even Al Gore's wife was spinning recored backwards listning for messages some years ago.

The point is that this is not the place for a politically biased rant. Go to CNN or MSNBC and put forth this crap or if you are on the other side go to Fox but Maximum P C is not where we come to hear this. It is where we come to get away from it. Poor judgement there Grayson, or poor judgement on the part of your boss.

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lhatten

One of Max PCs areas of coverage is games.  When some stupid, so called news org, writes something this stupid, it is most certainly in their area of coverage.  Now Troll, your problem is that your fav news boys happen to be radical conservatives and any criticism of them means that your are disagreeing with that ideology.  Not the case here if you would take the time to read the article.  Politics was never mentioned, just their article about games.  Get over yourself and actually read the articles from not on.

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baileya1c

Shut up about your political views. If I wanted to read about politics I would go to a different site. Just give me tech info and quit alienating the people who are not left wing nutjobs.

P.S. The new website design everyone is using lately sucks. Now I hate going to Engadget, Gizmodo and MaximumPC.

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Caboose

Fail troll has failed!

Why not actually READ the article instead of spewing your paranoid conspiracy bullshit!

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Vegan

I double-checked this article for mentions of politics and could find NONE.

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Myzzy

I agree. NONE.

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roleki

Uh, the article mentions Fox News, and it doesn't fellate them, so obviously it is a politically-charged rant by a nutjob liberal, just one more sheep in the pasture of the UnAmerican Activity that is blotting out all rational thought in this great country.

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Zazubovich

Total win.  Fox is a cult, not a news channel.

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