BioWare Concedes to Angry Fans, Promises "Clarified" Ending Content for Mass Effect 3

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TsunamiZ

thanks for spoiling the ending!

you should've put a spoiler alert in the title.

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_Jono_

I dont think anyone really argues that Bioware shouldn't have the freedom to create their own endings. What people are pissed about is that it seems they did it lazily with plot holes and no real indication the story even continues. As if the final phase of production was rushed just to get content out to fans sooner. If so many fans are left confused I doubt it means Bioware's actual target audience is unintelligent, but that there are so many different interpretations for what the end means. We simply want to know if this is a complicated ending left to our interpretation, are there intended hidden messages, or was this just a halfass rush to meet a deadline for release.

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Ghostryderflyby

It wasn't an issue for me of the ending being depressing when I was looking for a happy heroes ending. I grant Bioware their creative vision and appreciate that they tried mixing it up, although I personally would have preferred a happier ending. My problem with the ending was the enormous holes left in the plot and the un-answered questions with the existing ending.

What happens to Earth? What happens to the fleets and the myriad aliens fighting in and around Earth to save it? Why is the Normandy running away instead of using that Thanix cannon to take out some reapers? Why is it crashing on some distant world instead of landing on Earth? The only ending that I could see a reason for the Normandy fleeing, would be the one where all AI is extinguished. Joker would have good reason to run then, trying to save Edi. But what about the other 2 endings? The pulse on 2 of the endings leaves the Reapers intact, and on all 3 endings the troops are fine and the ships flying over Earth are fine. There is no reason for the Normandy to flee and miraculously crash intact from FTL speeds onto some garden world, and it just doesn't make sense.

On a much more sinister side, if most of the above is explained because the destruction of the Charon relay destroyed the Sol system and Earth, then that means most habitable planets in the galaxy have just been destroyed by all of the mass relays exploding. If that is the case, that is even more depressing than if the reapers had won. At least life could have flourished for 50 thousand year cycles. Now you have one lone bastion of life on some luckily placed unknown garden world, with no hope of anyone ever going anywhere, because everything and everyone worth visiting galaxy wide and the means to get there has just been blown to bits.

That is the problem with the ending. It's not that you only have 3 choices and none of them are good, or that none of the endings are "my" ideal of a heroes ending. It's that there are massive and glaring plot holes that just don't make sense, and questions left by the ending with no closure or answers.

That and after you die, you magically end up back on the bridge of the Normandy alive and well so you can buy more DLC content and fatten EA's wallet. If you're going to keep Shepard alive to continue the story through DLC, keep him/her alive in the ending. Otherwise it broadens the disconnect of that ending and just feels like an effort to make more money.

The entire series was great fun with engaging story telling and great game play. The ending they gave ME3 just does not do ME3, or the rest of the series justice at all as it sits. Bioware can keep their 3 choices depressing ending and creative vision intact if they like, but the massive plot holes at the least need to be plugged, and some closure would be welcome. The current ending makes all of your efforts to cure the genophage and obtain peace between the Krogan, Turians and Salarians, and ending the war and brokering peace between the Geth and the Quarians, completely pointless though because everything is destroyed. An ending that saw the Galaxy continuing on in peace because of your efforts, would be very welcome.

P.S. Filing an FTC complaint because you don't like a game is incredibly arrogant and stupid. It's like filing a law suit because you don't like the end of a book. I hate the ending of ME3 and won't complain at all if they change it and add some closure, but if not I'll just vote with my $$, not go file an FTC complaint.

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The_4th_Horseman

God damn dude put a spoiler alert at the beginning of your post. If i hadnt already played the game several times over then i would be really pissed.

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Sovereign

It wasn't the actual content of the ending (I'm fine with downer/bittersweet/not rosy endings). It was the not-showing-or-telling-me-what-happened-to-those-characters-you-got-me-to-care-about. The story felt incomplete.

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The_4th_Horseman

Ditto

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Penterax

I haven't played any of the Mass Effect series (someday I hope), so I may be entirely off base here, but I can't help but think that what BioWare did was provide an ending which required some thought to understand, and many people, uh, weren't interested in thinking about what it meant.

To put it more plainly, I hate it when devs think they have to dumb-down a game.

;)

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slowpoke2

If changing the ending of a game because of an consumer outcry is wrong, then I guess Bethesda and Fall Out 3 is in the same boat.

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Refuge88

The ending wasn't what I had hoped for, but I'm a realist. I can't honestly expect a sunflower raindrops ending with odds like that.

I was satisfied by it, but what I'm not satisfied about is the precedent that BW is setting for the game industry. Now that fans know if they complain enough they can change the story of a game, what is that going to do for the creativity of the gaming industry?

I may be overreacting, and hopefully I am. But I hope this doesn't have much far further reaching effects than a simple DLC/patched alternate ending.

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Khoiboi

DLC are usually what? $20 bucks. The game itself is $60. So if part of the CORE storyline that gamers EXPECT to be given is actually in the DLC that bioware will sell for a humble estimate of $20, then it is absurd that you should feel that's an acceptable practice. We, as the consumers, have a right to complain when we feel cheated. The nickle and dime games are frustrating and gaming companies continue to push more content onto DLC to widen their profit margins. At this rate, why shouldn't we just pirate the game if they're putting part of the core storyline into DLC and telling us to pay? What stops every game that they come out from now from having this dependency on DLC if we don't nip it in the bud?

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bling581

You forgot the costs of ME1 and ME2 as well. I picked up the digital deluxe edition of ME3 which was something like $80. I personally spent 40-50 hours minimum playing each game through at least twice. That's a lot of money and time invested. What's that EA? You want more money for the "real" ending?

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bling581

"I can't honestly expect a sunflower raindrops ending with odds like that."

**SPOILER ALERT**

Well that's exactly what I expected and I'm one of the disappointed fans. Most games end with the hero coming out on top so the ending was actually a surprise and a bit refreshing. What was aggravating is that none of it really makes any sense. They show Joker beating the shock wave and crashing on some unknown planet and the rest is a mystery. It doesn't explain anything and leaves you guessing, assuming or just plain puzzled at what happened.

It's cool that they're adding some closure with DLC content, but the fact that I have to reach into my pocket again to receive it doesn't make things any better. Perhaps some of us will never be fully happy with the ending.

Like others pointed out, BioWare is letting this slide. I used to think of them as one of the best game developers out there, but their reputation as of late is starting to slip. First it was Dragon Age II. Then SWTOR came out, and while it's a good start it's missing so much and feels rather "blah". ME3 is an awesome game, don't get me wrong, but having an ending like that ruins a lot of the experience.

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h e x e n

I passed on ME3. No way they were going to tie everything up in a nice little bow that satisfied my expectations.

I'm a huge sucker when it comes to closure and endings of stories, and in this case, I knew I'd be dissatisfied and disappointing. I'll keep the fond memories I have of ME1 and ME2, and do them justice by not spoiling it with the third game. THAT'S how much I enjoy this franchise. Part of me doesn't want to know how it ends, and as of now, I'm glad I didn't find out.

Couple it with all the garbage surrounding the release, such as the day 1 DLC and the even further departure from the RPG genre, and it was obvious I wasn't going to buy this game.

It would be damn hilarious if they made these "new" endings expansion DLC's. lmao, wouldn't that be something.

"Here's a book. It has 23 chapters. But the book itself only contains 22. You have to buy the 23rd to see how it ends."

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The_4th_Horseman

Im going to be seriously PISSED if they make me pay for the new endings. All that does is make it painfully obvious that they are going to have dlc endings for ALL of their games. Will definitely rage quit bioware if they do that.

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misterz100

I wasn't that angry with the ending but it also left me confused and disappointed. Especially after all the crap I went through to make a fleet only for it to not really make a difference either way.

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I Jedi

When the ending happened, I was a bit disappointed about it because it didn't seem complete. I didn't get to discover what happened to most of my favorite characters from the game, save Joker. The ending felt weird to me, it seemed confusing, and when I finally went online to read about the game to see what other people thought, I was surprised by the angry reactions towards Bioware about the ending. Overtime, thinking about the ending, I became more and more "upset," for a better lack of a word, about the ending itself, and how the whole thing felt rushed and seemed pretty bad.

For a few days, I held out hope that the indoctrination idea was true, but once Bioware confirmed that they changed the ending up because they had to rush to make a new ending because of an alpha leak of ME3 back in September, that's when I knew I got screwed as a loyal fan by them. I would have appreciated a delay in the game by them to think up of a new ending, or possibly build upon the one that was leaked later last year, but instead what we all got was something I think did a disservice to the franchise itself. There are some here who feel the ending was fine, and for those, I say that I am glad you found it a sound ending to the series. For me, though, I felt more screwed over by Bioware for trusting that they'd make a good ending, which they themselves admit now sucks.

In the end, what does it matter? I was angry enough about the ending to take Amazon up on its offer to return my copy of ME3 CE, so the problem is resolved and I could care less what they try to do to fix the ending now. I plan to read up on their "new" ending that should have been whenever it does come out. It was a good game mostly, but like a lot of people, the ending is what just destroyed it.

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Ghok

You know, I played the first Mass Effect, and unlike 99% of the games I buy, I actually finished it; so that says it was a good game.... however, while I thought the universe it created was INCREDIBLE, the actual STORY? Meh. The game play? I got tired of it fairly quickly... it was more fun a few years earlier when I played KOTOR. I never bought the sequels. I don't think my opinion is particularly popular, but that's just my two cents.

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the_brink

Its a little late to add new ending when the original ones sucked so bad and left a bad taste in my mouth, but none the less I'll take a better ending. Ultimately doing everything in the game does not do crap for you in the end. I played through all three gams doing about everything right and the ending I got sucked. BTW, having to play the multiplayer or play the mobile app, which sucked hard, to get a better ending is total BS! I love MS3 up until the ending, so its kind of a love hate relationship.

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dgrmouse

I'm sure they'd love to sell as many different endings via DLC as they can. If their regret were genuine, the alternate endings would be made available for free.

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Shadow Death

The ultimate question is.... would you work for free? No....

This part is anyone to read (So I don't have two posts I just slapped them both in here).
Personally, I was happy with the ending. They announced it was the end of the series. It's funny though, I don't recall people complaining when Neo died at the end of the Matrix Trilogy. So what makes this epic story any different? It was a great ride and one I hope to expand in the future with DLC that I will, as I always have, bought after reading reviews. I think the complainers are just afraid of a little sun.

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vkt62

The problem was not with the death which lots of people agreed on it. The problem was that you went from meeting the star child to picking a choice in 5 mins without any clarification or decent back story for it. I don't care if they want to keep the ending, just justify it and explain the pre-Prothean history along with the keepers.

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chipmunkofdoom2

Doing a search-and-replace on Bioware and putting in EA instead makes this article make more sense. As the publisher, and as the third installment in a wildly successful franchise, you have to hope some of the atrocities in ME3 were EA's fault. I mean, I liked ME1 the best, 2 was okay, and 3 was painful.. you have to think as the ME games became more popular, EA stuck their noses further and further into Bioware's doings, right?

I mean, how does a game developer who did things so "right" do them so "wrong" without any interference? I would like to think I live in a world where only big business can ruin something so awesome and pure.. maybe I'm old fashioned.

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SPreston2001

How about adding some f@cking gamepad support idiots!! The game is awesome but I grew up using a gamepad and cant stand gaming with a keyboard and mouse. I love my pc graphics and really cant stand to game on consoles anymore! Its like watching standard definition tv after youve been exposed to high def!

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fry

Funny... I grew up with keyboard & mouse, and honestly can't understand how anyone can play a shooter with a gamepad. So pathetically imprecise.

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Ilander

Sheesh! Try Jmouse. It's quick, painless, and is just a google search away from being installed and letting you do just that.

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SPreston2001

Dude ive tried jmouse, xpadder, & glovepie but nothing beats native gamepad support. Besides I shouldnt have to go through all of that when it comes to a high profile game like ME3.

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chipmunkofdoom2

They have very good gamepad support for ME3.. on consoles.

All life is compromise. You want excellent, up-to-date graphics, you play on PC. What does that mean? Among other things like having to install the game, no gamepad support.

Almost all of the PC community doesn't want gamepad support.. that's why we go through the trouble of the extra cost and hassle associate with PC gaming, so we can use kbd/mouse. In fact, when a new PC game comes out and has console-like features (console flavored menus, gamepad support, etc) the first thing we do is scream FOUL because it usually means the dev took the lazy way out and ported the console version.

I'm seriously wondering if you're trolling right now.. I've played the first ME on console and PC, and after using a keyboard and mouse, I would rather kill myself than have to ever use a gamepad to play any ME game again.

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