Future Tense: Roll Your Own

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RaptorJohnson

There is more then 1 Terabyte of recorded music?  Why would anyone want more then that?  That is (about) 1,000,000 minutes of music (just under two years).

bah

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Jecht

I wish i had that kind of thinking when i build my PC. : /

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tdhayes1

I won a lottery scratcher in Jan this year and decided to spend some of it on my first build. I had to wait 2 months for the mobo due to the recall. But, it was worth it.

Here's what I built (below). It posted on my first attempt-JOY! Any comments on the configuration are appreciated. I'm still learning.

New Rig

 CPUIntel Core i7-2600K 3.4Ghz Sandy BridgeMoboAsus P9p67 DeluxeCaseCooler Master HAF 932 Black EditionPSU Cooler Master 1000W Silent Pro GoldGPUAsus ENGTX 570 Direct CU IICPU CoolerCooler Master Hyper 212 PlusRAMCorsair Dominator GT 8GB PC15000Optical DrivePlextor Black Blu-Ray px-b940sa OS Drives2- Corsair F60 SSDs in RAID 0Data Drives2- Western Digital Caviar Black 1Tb HDDs in RAID 0Back-Up DriveWestern Digital My Book 2 Tb Speakers Corsair 2.1 w/ SubMonitorAsus VE276Q 27" HD LCDUPSAPC Black UPS-ES 750OSMicrosoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit OEM  

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Cooketh

You say you don't want a bleeding edge machine, but that's exactly what you describe building.

Let me sum up what you said you need.

AT LEAST 12 GB of RAM, but you want 16GB or more. ( Bleeding Edge)

The ability to do moderate gaming, photoshop, and video editing on atleast 1 30 inch monitor but likely 2, even 3. Resolution unknown. ( Enthusiast)

Motherboard supporting Core i Generation 2 platform with USB 3.0 Capability (Enthusiast)

Obviously a Corei Gen 2 CPU (Enthusiast - Bleeding Edge, depending)

250 GB SSD, along with multiple 2-3 TB HDs. (Bleeding Edge)

WATER COOLING, you've got to be kidding me (Bleeding Edge)

A sound system, from what you're implying especially considering your headphones, that will be miles away from what even the most bleeding edge hardcore PC users have (Super Bleeding Edge)

The only thing you don't want that's bleeding edge is your mouse and keyboard...

You couldn't build a PC right now, to those specifications, with dropping serious money and not be called bleeding edge.

You, sir, want a bleeding edge machine. You very well know that what you do isn't "the usual" (100+ tabs in chrome? Yeah, ok very usual for the rest of us).

He asked a simple question and the answer to his question is also simple. The usual stuff is Word Processing, HD video playback, effective web browsing that implies capable GPUs for GPU enabled browsers, hard drive (not SSD) of atleast 1TB, USB 2.0 support (maybe 3.0).

That is "the usual" and that can be trimmed down or scaled up if the person describes what their usual is (wether is being gaming, or video editing, or sound editing, you can reccomend  ATIxxx, Nvidiaxxx, X-fixxx, etc) What you're talking about is the most bleeding edge PC that his community won't be seeing until the dream machine rolls out this year. Pop out of your world.

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DDRDiesel

-Core i5-655K OC'ed to 4.34 GHz

-8GB of Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600

-1TB of storage (250GB main drive, 250GB video drive, 500GB backup/priority drive)

-nVidia GTS 450 (ASUS TOP version, factory OC'ed to 925MHz)

-Samsung 22x DVD burner (SATA)

-EVGA P55 SLI motherboard

-Corsair H60 with additional 120mm fan for push/pull configuration

-Antec 900 (modded for cable routing)

-Rosewill 700W Green Series PSU

Those are just the main components.  I know it's a bit overkill, but this thing runs F@H (CPU and CPU clients), encodes video, and runs other programs at the same time with incredible ease.  I also have:

-Linksys WMP54GS PCI wireless adapter (The router is downstairs, I'm not running any cable)

-AVerMedia AVerTV HD DVR (PCI-e x1)

-Acer 17" LCD monitor

 

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win7fanboi

17" LCD monitor ?? Sounds like you have a pretty decent gaming card and a TV tuner. I wouldn't use anything less than a 22", preferably dual monitors.

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DDRDiesel

Trust me, I would LOVE to.  But I don't have the room for anything bigger than the 17".  Where it is, there is a lip on the entertainment center's shelf edge that goes down about two inches, blocking a bit of the top of the screen anyway.  Makes me a sad (albeit back-pain-suffering) Panda.

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win7fanboi

After years of reading MPC I pulled the trigger on building my first computer couple of weeks back. The process was thrilling/nerve wreaking. Especially when I didn't find the backplate for Hyper 212+ right away. I am telling you... sweating bullets. This is what I picked :

  • Corsiar 600T (it was between this and NZXT H2. The H2 would have problem fitting a long video card.)
  • i7-2600K
  • MSI P67A-GD65
  • Cooler Master Hyper 212+ cooler
  • XFX HD 6850
  • OCZ Vertex 2 SSD & 1T Samsung & 1T Segate drives
  • 4gb RAM (planning to upgrade to 8gb)

Thats it.. spent less than 900$ for it since I had got SSD for a laptop. No next gen parts but decent enough for light gaming, video editing and programming.

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Spoondle

What would I reccomend? An assistant.

From what I read, you either need to switch the brand of coffee you're drinking or invenst in a clone. :D

 

OMG... no wonder you want all that.

 

Other than that, all I can think you would need is a decent office chair.

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Sediket

I just find it interesting that you posted your whole conversation you had with your friends about your likes and dislikes of building a computer while eating sushi when I was under the impression that MaximumPC actually posted interesting articles and news.

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Nyarlathotep

I find this article relevant. My friends, family, and co-workers come to me for computer advice all the time. When someone asks me what computer they should buy my first question is always "What do you want to use it for?". I hear others give advice without asking this and they usually end up suggesting the person spend more than the really need to.

I'm not saying your opinion is invalid just that I disagree.  

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aarcane

the one thing that, while you didn't miss it, is sorely lacking from your build is ZFS.  Of course ZFS is only widely available as a network filesystem in the windows world right now, which is sad, but it provides data reliability and scalability that I've yet to see provided by any other NAS solution or in any windows machine.  it's kinda depressing to think about all the silent corruption that could be occuring at any point on any of your single drives.

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someuid

I find most discussions on what someone should get usually dissolve into "I want it all and here are my justifications - back me up and tell me I'm right."

I would frame the questions this way:

1.  Do you need it portable?  If yes, laptop, if no, desktop.

2.  How much do you have to spend?  Get the most powerful machine you can find for that amount.

David, as for your list, I see you've managed to dream up the best in just about everything except the keyboad, the mouse and the graphics card.

What are you missing?  You need to take the RAM to 24GB, get RAM drive software, and put the Windows swap file on the RAM drive.  See this for an explanation of why:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-memory-upgrade,2778.html

Next, it is time for RAID for speed.  Stripe that 2TB, 3TB, 4TB.  Hard drives are probably one of the cheapest components in our computers these days.

You also need to get on the 3 screen bandwagon.  If you're doing all that you claim to be doing on a single screen, you are no longer deserving of sushi!

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aarcane

according to your own article, disabling swap is ideal, and should be done with 12GB or more.  additionally, placing swap in RAM is absolutely stupid.  you'd have to be a real rocket surgeon to think that was a good idea.

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Slurpy

David, what part of your build isn't bleeding-edge?  The lack of water cooling?

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meangenedrlove

When people ask me what I recommend for building their computer, the first two questions I ask are: 1. What are you going to use it for? and 2. What is your budget? Once they can tell me that stuff I go to Newegg and put together a wish list for them so they can see what their options are, and so they can get spousal support/permission (if needed) to proceed with the build. The budget (and spousal support) are ALWAYS the big limiting factors, so often times I take a look at what they currently have to see if anything can be re-used...the case is almost always re-usable (and is usually the ONLY thing that can be recycled without crippling a machine made with newer components), ugly as it may be, it's an easy way to trim from the budget.

As for my personal machines, I am always thinking of what to put into the next build as soon as I have completed one. I keep an up-to-date wish list of the components I'd use if I were to build today and I swap out components on the wish list as new items come out or prices/availability change.

I currently have a HTPC and a Home Server that I have built and I am working on a small-form factor near-silent PC for controlling my guitar effects board and for portability.

I put together the HTPC in July of 2009 with a Phenom II quad-core, 8 GB of RAM, a mid-range ATI video Card, the Soundblaster X-FI Pro and a 320 GB hard drive. Since I am a less than casual gamer I didn't need a high end video card. This machine has served extrememly well and I only recently upgraded the processor to a Phenom II Hexa-core which drove my video encoding times down 50-75%. All new parts for this machine ran about $1,800.00.

I also put my Home Server together in July of 2009 with parts from my old desktop--an Athlon 64 X2 and 4 GB of RAM, I bought a micro-ATX board with onboard video since my old ATX board required the use of a video card. I've got 7.5 TB worth of storage. Since I recycled so many older parts for this machine I ended up spending about $250.00 on new parts/software for this one.

For my current project I am going with a Lian Li PC-Q07 case, a mini-ITX board, a Phenom II hexa-core, 8 GB of RAM, a 64 GB SSD for Windows, and a 2TB drive for storage (if it wasn't going to be portable I'd just rely on the MHS for all storage needs). I am going with a SeaSonic fanless PSU and the Scythe Shuriken CPU fan/cooler (using that same cooler on my HTPC which went a long way to dramatically quieting that machine). I should be ordering the final components in the next week, so I'm really looking forward to getting this machine up and running to see what it can do. When is all said and done, this machine will have cost about $800.00.

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don2041

Gee David you don,t want much

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