Z77 Motherboard Showdown

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methuselah

What?? Did not review the
Asrock Z77 Extreme 4??

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293

That thing is a poor man's mobo in a performance man's package! To say nothing about how incredibly popular it is.
I easily overclocked my 3770k to 4.5ghz.

You can even get it for $50 off if you buy it from Microcenter w/ an 1155 proc.

The only downside (as with most mid range mobo's) is the RAM slots are too close to the processor, making it difficult for aftermarket coolers (Megahalems for example) to fit w/out blocking the slots.

Max PC - Please review this mobo, I'd love to see how it stacks up agains the competition here.

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burpnrun

@Gordon Mah Ung: Is the Asus P8Z77-V a real, live board that is actually available (let alone at a $189 price point?) in the marketplace?

Yes, it's listed on the Asus US website. No, it's not listed on NewEgg, Tiger. etc. So no way to validate the price, let alone the availability of the product.

Also, given all the goodies on the board, and the other listings for this board number and variants on NewEgg, i'm very skeptical of the $189 price point. Could it be that Asus smoked the reviewer?

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Mediziner

I know I'm kinda spamming on the comments, but here is is link to my planned rig:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?
WishListNumber=19402825

and I'm choosing between this and a this (which is mATX):

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=21336206

Which one should I get? What can I cut corners on?

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Strangelove_424

You're using a 2600k and aiming at budget mobos, so the typical z77/h77 benefits of multiple PCI 3.0 lanes/thunderbolt are moot to you. Haswell will require a new platform anyway, so these h77/z77 boards will be useless for that generation as well. In all probability, since you have the stellar 2600k, you will never own an IB chip and will skip right to Haswell by that point. Essentially, you will never put an IB chip into an IB-based mobo. It would also be a shame not to OC the 2600k, which begs for it. Having said all that, I really think you should be looking at Z68 boards. This is an open box, but the warranty is still upheld and you can have your cake and eat it too:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131786R

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Mediziner

I'm pretty sure the board you suggested doesn't have PCIe 3.0 (the board you suggested only has PCIe 2.0, and doesn't PCIe 3.0 give you a ~10-15% performance increase?). Also, I don't need to overclock. All I'm really going to be doing on it that's CPU-intensive is gaming. But thanks anywasy for you help.

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Mediziner

intel qx9770 core 2 extreme or i3?

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Mediziner

I'm currently deciding on a budget rig with the Biostar Hi-Fi Z77, so if there is another mobo I should get? What should it be? And is the audio on the Hi-Fi actually good? or...

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Hilarity

Get a H77M-D3H and a Core i5 3470. Sink the rest into a 680 or 7970 GHz.

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Mediziner

My friend gave me his 2600K, so I'm running that. Anyways, I'm on a strict budget. Also, I don't need a heavy-duty graphics card, so I'll be running either a 660 or 7870... still can't decide which:(

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Mediziner

I won't be overclocking and will probably using the Xigmatek Gaia. Oh yeah... mATX?????? Should I get a 67/68 series or 77 series and what's the difference? (Besides PCIe 3.0)

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Mediziner

And why the gigabyte? Why not MSI or ASUS or Asrock???

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Strangelove_424

Auto OC to 4.5? and 4.68?... on Ivy Bridge?!?! It doesn't surprise me the chip isn't stable at 4.68, but I'm curious just how astronomical the v-core and temps are at that frequency. In my experience with Sandy Bridge on an Asus, auto-OCing is equivalent to a CPU self-destruct option. Asus happily fried my chip with 1.40v into 85c trying to achieve 4.7Ghz, and didn't stop until it crashed the whole system, requiring a bios reset. These auto-OC features imo are extremely dangerous. They're not optimizing settings as much as pushing them to limits a rational user would never think of doing. On an Ivy Bridge machine I built for my dad, the frequency/temp/v-core sweet spot is indeed 4.2Ghz, and no amount of wishful thinking on the mobo's part could change that. If you do have your eyes set on the stratosphere, get there manually, as the auto-OCing features are not developed with balance, rationality, or the long term health of your CPU in mind.

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tony2tonez

I actually posted a question on the help my buy/build forums about the Z77 or X89 board. I am running P35. Asus board. Maximus V Formula. Probably X79 model.

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Mediziner

I can actually find the MSI Z77A-GD65 on Newegg for $150 with free shipping... and there are mutiple models of the Asus mobo you reveiwed, such as the Asus P8Z77-V LK, Asus P8Z77-V LX, Asus P8Z77-V LE, Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS, Asus P8Z77-V PRO, Asus P8Z77-V PRO/Thunderbolt, Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe, and the Asus P8Z77-V Premium, all ranging from $130 to $450. So do they offer the same preformance, or...

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Hilarity

You should point out that an $80 H77 board will give you virtually identical performance. Yes you can OC and all that, but really, if you want to save cash, you don't need Z77 or OC. I went for a 3470 and H77M-D3H. Simple, saved a bit too.

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Mediziner

Really?
Identical performance?

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Hilarity

Yes. Stock vs stock. No difference. Those fancy motherboards are a big waste of money.

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CaptainFabulous

Um, no.

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fygquas

For me, the MSI is the one to get. Because the blue paint they use matches the ones used on Corsair Vengeance Blue. They are almost the exact same shade!

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tekknyne

Good read, but I'm definitely feeling the Asrock Extreme 4 @ $124 on Newegg all day. I have the P67 Extreme 4 and man this thing has been great. Needless to say it's going to the lady and I'll get nab the z77 board :)

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TheMissingPiece

I'll have to go with Gordon's recommendation here. I personally own a P8Z77-V and love it. That fan Xpert's pretty useful.

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jimmthang

Yes, it was originally from our August issue, but we also realize there are readers here that don't have an active subscription to the magazine that are also interesting in building budget ivy bridge rigs. Don't worry about a dirth in original web content, we'll have plenty to come in the future! 

- Online Managing Editor Jimmy Thang 

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jason2393

I wish more of the articles from the magazines were posted here. Countless times, I've been reading an MPC article, and felt a strong urge to post a comment, but couldn't because the paper edition has no such feature...

Now, about the article: I'll stick with P67 until MaxPC posts an article telling me Intel is using fluxless solder again.

P.S. Did you mean 'dearth'? I disagree, all of my Econ papers have been sourced from this site's news articles (if you have an even higher volume on the way, that's great!). I wish there were more Saturday posts, though.

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j_j_montez

I appreciate the article. I need to renew my subscription, and I missed this one. I understand you don't just want to throw everything online for free, so I'm glad you guys posted this. I love the hardware comparisons.

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jimmthang

Thanks for the kind words!

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Mediziner

Could you guys please do a reveiw on mATX motherboards and cases? Thanks!

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