First Look: The Phantom Lapboard

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BuLLg0d

I thought all things Phantom were dead... guess not...should be though...

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CraigD

Phantom Confirmation On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Phantom Entertainment <lapboard2008@yahoo.com> wrote:Craig, The Lapboard you purchased will be shipped this week. An automated email will be sent to you when the Lapboard is shipped. In addition, since you have also requested the ability to track the shipment, we will also send you an email with the FedEx tracking number. Thanks,Phantom Entertainment, Inc.

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CraigD

Comment by Louis

2008-07-08 06:53:12

 

I finally received my lapboard and it is actually pretty cool. I use it in my Home theater with my PS3 on a 145″ screen. Yes, it is compatible with the PS3. I also switch it to my PC which is also connected to my projector and love how comfortable it is playing Team Fortress 2. I tried with a regular wireless mouse and keyboard but they are clumsy. Specially having the mouse so far to the right and trying to balance them both. This has made gaming in my Theater so much better. Thanks Phantom….Finally

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pheadbaq

Looks like they're finally shipping it. Their online store is back up and taking orders. Shipment is by Fedex ground (5 business days):

http://www.store.phantom.net/

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CraigD

It's apparent that the Phantom is now taking orders directly from their online store. There are changes to that site page. And so it appears that the Lapboards are here!

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pheadbaq

I just hope it gets out the door. Here are some links for info:

From ione Europe (they licensed the board from phantom)

A blog by one of the (claimed) inventors of the lapboard

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CraigD

I see you've followed me over to Maximum PC from Ragingbull.
RU here to "set" the record "straight"?

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CraigD

From a source,

June is supposedly the month. I'm certain. I've checked. certain enough to send a bank card number in an email to them.
I'll keep you posted.

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DRAGONWEEZEL

If this company manages to actually sell more than 10000 of these I'll buy a lifetime subscription. However I think that somehow they will delay again, and then for a promised november "christmas time" release, which they fail to meet, and finally fold to the feds.

But if it doesn't happen, then I'll take that keyboard, and continue to use my MX1000 the best mouse I have ever tried!

If only I could rig up something like this for my G15...

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Keith E. Whisman

Hey... HardOCP reported the whole story about Nvidia's and ATI's driver optimizations to show higher Futurmark 3dmark scores the same time everyone else did. The same time as MaxPC, TomsHardware.com, Anandtech.com, CPU magazine and all the other tech sites. I also remember HardOCP leading the way with a new benchmarking standard. Completely banning synthetic benchmarks that was very hard for them. But they did it and they were the first.

Somehow I knew this would agrivate the hornets nest the moment I read the Phantom article.

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willsmith

Several of rockinalienware's posts were reported as spam by the general userbase. Upon review, I've issued a temporary ban. It's against our rules for company representatives to post on our forums/messageboards as if they were ordinary users (commonly known as astroturfing) and discuss their company's products (company reps who declare their allegiances, or who don't comment on their own products are welcome as always). The posts by this user, rockinalienware, look suspiciously like astroturf posts, especially recommending the company as a good stock tip.

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whereisphantom

I'm one of the inventors and I haven't even seen one of this round of prototypes yet.

By publishing this review you are aiding PHEI in their scheme to drive up share price, raise funds, finish development and ship. They are now in a Tinkerbelle mode of product dev.; if you believe hard enough they might come back to life.

The only member of the product team remaining left a few months ago. PHEI has walked away from the lapboard patents. The share price, the sole mode to pay employees and vendors is now so low it's listed with scientific notation. (no joke)

The lapboard is cool, but these guys are extremely unlikely to ever finish and ship. My only hope is that since the IP is completely unprotected, that someone else will take the idea and run with it. Logitech, anyone?!

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rockinalienware

The first one with the idea on paper owns the patent in the USA. It has nothing to do with when its prosecuted. International patents are a little diffent, from what I have read in the public filings they have filed the right documents, it always goes to who filed first internationally in the event of a judgement.Therefore if they can keep the company going then they still own the patent. As far as the stock being low, looks like it could be a great buying opportunity if the company ships in June like they mentioned in this article.

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whereisphantom

WRT lapboard patents. Here's what's going on. No international filings have ever been made, the company was too broke to ever follow through and complete the work. Some US filings have been made but the company has never responded to any patent office communication. The patent attorneys involved have all withdrawn to avoid getting left holding the bag. These are patents that will never be granted.

Phantom Entertainment is a ghost ship. All of us formerly involved are just amazed that it can keep generating press and the tease of a product one day.

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CraigD

Say, that setup was only a prototype. The eventual shipments from the manufacturer shouldn't have those problems.
From a source.

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Darth Ninja

Just to be sure, is this for the PC or a console?
I dont really see much point for PC.. but for consoles it would be a HUGE market.




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kylejn

I'd be curious to try one of these out at Fry's Electronics or someplace. Seems like a really interesting piece of hardware, and with my computer hooked up to my TV, it might be interesting to try playing some games on there with one of these.

Still, if they dropped the mouse and knocked the price down to $50 or $60, I think it would sell a lot more than I anticipate it's going to.

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Keith E. Whisman

I remember back in 2003/2004 HardOCP.com did a scathing report on the guy Tim Roberts that invented the phantom.Infinium Labs. He threatened to sue if HardOCP.com didn't remove information about his cons. He is responsible for ripping off alot of investers from numerous companies. HardOCP was able to find him with ease because he lived with his mom. I would'nt buy this. The guy that will profit from the sale of this is a crook. HardOCP actually did a few stories on this character. Now that you know about this guys crappy character would you trust him to honor a waranty? Would you trust him to offer a refund? Would you trust his to offer tech support for his divice? I don't. This guy has alot work to prove he's nolonger crooked.

Check out the Story here http://tinyurl.com/4jwqbk

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rockinalienware

Isnt HardOCP the magazine which was sued for manipulating speed reports on processors? I remember HARDOCPs scandal which they were getting paid by hardware companies to make their competitors look bad. As I recall Kyle Bennet the owner of HARDOCP was sued and lost and had to print retractions and all. I am sure hes doing the same thing here to the Phantom, that was my gut anyway as a manager at Intel.

I have known him Tim for years as a business relationship and he is a nice guy. I read Roberts background on linkedin.com and it seemed to be pretty impressive to me. In fact, Roberts first company www.savvis.com has done tremendous, funny thing is they even bought our Intel Data centers. Seems his companies survive and turn into cash cows. Looks like the early investors are not holding their stock long enough... Average ROI is 15 years in many of these industries. Everyone expects miracles these days, we see the same thing even in large corps where there is a lack of patience.

Hardocp is a laughing stock internet blog, I wouldnt listen to a word they write, been following them and know their antics, many large companies have reported many problems with them also with lies and deciept. In fact here is one of the old posts from a forum to see Kyles style:
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So what you're telling me Kyle is that you have no ill feelings for Futuremark back from the days of Nvidia's blatant cheating. If I remember correctly, you were the last one on the whole web to admit Nvidia's wrongdoing. Time after time you stated that the cheats would be removed in the next set of drivers. Time after time you were wrong. This was all according to your sources at Nvidia. Then you finally posted that anti-Nvidia editorial ripping into them about their bullshit. And to top it all off, after that Futuremark bent over for Nvidia, further making you look like a fool.

Nvidia is much more to blame for your change of heart than Futuremark ever will be. Be thankfull you still have an audience after that switcheroo you pulled.

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Maximum is a credible source of content who follows the ethics of fair and balanced stories like the everyone in the print media world. I wouldnt believe everything you read, especially know that they bias low end wannabe newsites and blogs are construing the truth to try and get people to look at their lame websites. I am sure many competitors dont want this product to come to market...

We all think this is a awesome product and obviously from the looks of things the general market does as well. Following the curve of HDTV and Broadband its a natural for video games to be in the living room. Take a look at the Windows Media Center On Intel® Viiv™ Technology

download.microsoft.com/download/5/b/9/5b97017b-e28a-4bae-ba48-174cf47d23cd/SPN053_WH06.ppt

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Izzu

Sorry, can't let that one go without comment.

[H]ardOCP were sued for dishonest reporting and accepting bribes? They were forced to print a retraction?

And yet, the only evidence you've provided of this is a context-free quotation from a forum post, that's clearly been made by someone with a chip on their shoulder?

Fine, I'll accept what you say about [H]ardOCP, if you can point me towards any evidence: the retraction you mentioned, for example. Said retraction must still be available to view; after all, the internet preserves such things like flies in amber.

Here, I'll start the ball rolling.

Wikipedia's article on Phantom Entertainment, formerly Infinium Labs, giving a summary of the [H]ardOCP suit along with other controversies, including irregularities reported by the SEC:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Entertainment

Summary of the court's September 2004 ruling, including demands that Infinium Labs produce supporting documentation:

http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=122123&cid=10273115

Copy of the order under which Infinium Labs admitted they had neither been libelled nor suffered violation of copyright:

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTEwNDg3NjUxMEVmbXUwTVdKRHZfMV8xX2wuZ2lm

The original [H]ardOCP article which prompted Infinium Labs to launch their lawsuit:

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTEyLDE=

And, on a subject that's unrelated but clearly close to your heart, a joint nVidia/Futuremark statement regarding the 2003 3DMark mini-scandal referenced in the forum post you quoted:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/06/03/futuremark_nvidia_didnt_cheat/

Your turn.

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bicyclist

I think it's user ERROR. I believe this mouse is meant to held using the middle finger(left click) & ring finger (right click)...
Hope this helps.

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mediaphile

I believe this mouse is meant to be held using the same configuration of fingers as any other generic mouse. Regardless, the left button's physical ability to rebound should be no different than that of the right button. The computer mouse has been around for almost thirty years. It's not rocket science.

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willsmith

I'm pretty certain that it's not a user error. Even if you click it with the middle button, it's not going to work quite right.

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