Windows 8 Review

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Lednaara

Yes it plays all those just fine. Even loaded up my games from Steam just fine as well.

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Nimrod

how do we get our free launch party version of this like we did with Windows 7? :P

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lordfirefox

"We never thought we’d type the words, “Microsoft has made it easy to install Windows,” but there you have it." -MaximumPC
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"I never thought I'd see the day that Microsoft would make it easier to switch to Linux. But there you have it." -Myself

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MarioJP

There is nothing wrong with metro. Don't worry I'll take your place because i'll definitely be upgrading.

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m35g35

Although I agree the Metro makes little sense on the desktop, it is what is with Microsoft. Microsoft should have given the user the option "Classic" and "Windows 8" for this version. So, I spent 5 minutes "Googling" to have a work around the Metro. One line of code and have task manager run it when you login. Also, found how to restore the orb. Are we getting that lazy where we can't click one icon in the Metro to go to the desktop? I have been on W8 since the RTM and it is great. Boot time with my SSD is like 2 seconds. Get over it, or you will be passed by.

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lordfirefox

I'll be sticking to Windows 7 until support ends, and then after that I'll be switching off to my Linux partition full-time because quite frankly I don't like the look of nor the useability of Windows 8. And I'm dreading how much more locked-down Windows 9 will be.

@MaroJP. Have fun with your sterilized fenced-in garden. By Windows 9 they'll have made it impossible for you to play your old games on their OS without their "approval".

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MarioJP

Assumptions

Also you're forgetting one thing

ARM and x86. That's like saying Intel will end support to x86. Where would linux go then ARM?. But then that would not be the same experience as the x86 variants as x86 is the horsepower while ARM is efficient and has its own horsepower in its own world which is not the same.

Secondly. By the times Windows 9 hits (if it ever going to be named like that) Maybe we have tablets powerful enough to hook up to your TV. Or perhaps the way we compute. work wise will drastically cater to these tablets. And lets not forget the F2P Model gaming that i keep hearing about. Who knows Gabe might do the same thing once they get all well "established" in the Linux platform of no control but Valves. Gabe Newell is only watching over themselves like any other entity. But hey what do i know i am only assuming right?? lol.

The reason why Apple is very successful because they can do things only competitors can only dream of without being sued. And the people that support Apple. You can all blame Apple for these changes people don't like Not MS. Take a look at the iphone 5 and already people are going on a craze for it and its not even out yet.

And about the walled garden you are talking about. That's just it. Apple has successfully trained the masses how to accept it. MS is just going in for the kill =P

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Chronologist

People are making a big deal about this whole locking out thing.
The only locking out thing is that microsoft has the ability to remove, or "lock out" games from their app store. I'm pretty sure none of us will lose sleep over not being able to play Angry Birds 15 on our desktops.

We'll all still be able to run games from our desktop mode, and pin them to metro as a tile.

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brentrad

Microsoft has not stopped me from installing anything in Windows 8, I've been able to install all my apps from Windows 7 in Windows 8 (except a few that had minor incompatibilities in Windows 8, so I had to get a newer version - exactly the same as any other new Windows in history.) There is an auto-check against a Microsoft database when you first run any apps downloaded from the internet, and anything sketchy it will warn you, but you can easily turn that feature off (I've left it on for now, since I do a lot of downloading of, shall we say, questionable items from the internet and a little prevention can go a long way towards preventing getting a virus.) And you are asked if you want this feature turned on or off during the install.

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dashize

so after 20 years of trying to get people to clean up their desktops M$ finally tells people is ok to have a cluttered crap filled desktop :(

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brentrad

The actual desktop is basically unchanged. You can put icons on it or not, and use it the same way you do in Windows 7. It's just the Metro Start Screen that is totally different, that replaces the Start Menu. Personally I pretty much ignore the Start Screen, it's mostly irrelevant on a desktop computer. Just install a program like Skip Metro Suite so you boot right to the desktop after logging in, and you'll never have to interact with the Start Screen unless you're hitting Start button to search - and in that use case, it's actually a decent search interface.

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MarioJP

Or you can remove the icons. From what it looks on that pic. The installation is an upgrade and not a clean install or a up and running screenshot.

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El_Salvador_ENM...

Looks like Ill be sticking with Win7 until Service pack 1 of Win8 to see changes but if I want metro UI ill go with Omninio for Rainmeter since its more user friendly.

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Granite

The way I see it, Win8 is the bridge to the future when the keyboard and mouse will be gone. We will, instead, use touch, voice and motion to interact with our systems. Personally, I'm eagerly looking forward to this future. For the time being, however, I won't get Win8 for my desktop. I DO intend to get a Win8 tablet.

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lordfirefox

Desktop gamers don't use touch screens to play games. So I don't see touch-screens as the future. PC gamers already have the best interface for playing games. The keyboard and mouse. A touch screen is nothing more than a gimmick like the Kinect sensor for the 360.

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brentrad

I don't agree that mice are going away, but I also don't agree that touchscreens are a fad. I think they can coexist, and I predict they will for the foreseeable future. There's some things that are just easier or better with touch, and there's a lot of things that are easier with a mouse.

Choices are good.

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Granite

Gamers do use touchscreens to play games...I use them on my tablet and phone every day. PC gamers will use them too, along with voice and motion.

It's not fully developed yet...but it will be. Win8 will spur that developement. The keyboard and mouse will be ancient history.

You can either live a meager life in the past...or embrace the future.

Your choice.

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blackcat77

IIRC Windows 7 got a Kick Ass rating and deserved it. Windows 8 gets a 7 with about as many negatives as positives. Metro is Fugly. Having to look at that be enough to make me hate the OS no matter if it was marginally better than Windows 7. I have had no icons on my desktop at all for years and now MS acts as if they can demand that I change that. Wrong. Windows 7 is going to be around longer and stronger than XP was and MS has only themselves to blame.

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BryceBooth

With the addition of the Start screen (Metro) you can still keep your Desktop clutter-free.

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abowlofsoda

For the first time ever I might actually BUY a Windows OS instead of obtaining it (Early bird pricing).

Hmm.. maybe not.

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jordinyc

Finally Redmond proves once and for all that Microsoft BOB was a good idea all along!

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Xessive

Gotta agree with the verdict: 7.

As in: stick to Windows 7.

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devin3627

hey guys, f*** windows media center. this is the real deal, connecting xbox live with this and you have coolest home entertainment system in your bedroom too. but im not willing to spend money on unnecessary stuff.

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TheMurph

I wonder how long it'll take Microsoft to integrate all of the proposed Xbox functionality into Windows 8...

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loozer

Do you have TV Tuner cards? Do you have an HTPC? Do you NOT own an xbox?

No? Then stop trolling.

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brentrad

I installed the Windows 8 Pro RTM as dual boot along with my Windows 7 install on my desktop (non-touch) computer. Thought I'd try it out, and I expected to hate it and just switch back. Turns out I like it a lot, and I intend to uninstall Windows 7 one of these upcoming weekends.

It probably helps that I didn't use the Start Menu all that much, and what I used it for (the Run shortcut, quick access to the Control Panel, etc.) it's pretty easy to set up alternative ways to access things. I don't use any of the Metro apps (except the Weather app, MaximumPC is right, it's pretty sweet), and I just use the Metro/Start Pane for searching for stuff.

What I really like about Windows 8 is the speed (it's just faster than Windows 7 at most things), and the extra little things they added, like the souped up Task Manager, the File Copy dialog, how fast it boots up, etc. I have an older AMD x64 x2 5200+ processor and only 2 GB of RAM, and it runs faster than Windows 7 does. Of course I do have an SSD as my boot drive, and Windows 8 was really optimized for SSDs.

So to all those talking trash about Windows 8: actually try it out before you decide it sucks. You may like it, you may hate it...but make up your own mind. Although...am I going to install it on my wife's computer? Probably not. So it's definitely not for everyone.

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loozer

Windows 8 is good, but fear windows 9.

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brentrad

Don't get me wrong, if they kill off the desktop in Windows 9, I'm outta there. I can't believe they'd ever be that stupid though. A tablet interface will never be a viable replacement for the Windows desktop for business users who have multiple apps open and sit upright at a desk all day. I think Microsoft ceded this point by showing their vision of the ideal tablet/desktop interface in the Surface tablets, with a keyboard/touchpad and available USB ports.

I have a combo tablet/netbook - an Android 4.0 Asus Transformer - and I use it docked probably 80% of the time. Can't beat typing on a real keyboard, and the dock hinge allows the screen to be supported at any angle you want, sit it on your lap, etc. I find that I never use the touchpad though - I find it's much more convenient to use the keyboard along with the touchscreen to navigate. I'd be interested to install Windows 8 on it, if it were possible, to see what it's like. We'll see if someone makes that possible some day.

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SkinnyZeroOne

Totally agree with your post. It just feels & snaps faster than 7. All the rest of its annoyances can be dealt with.
I'm really interested in what's under the hood.

Oh - Great review by the way MaxPC

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KrapGame

I won't be upgrading to this pile of shit.

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West996

I think I am going to like Windows 8. I will give it a shot.

I see what people are saying about liking to keep their desktop clean and neat with as few icons as possible, it makes your desk top look nice. Hide all your icons in other menus and such.

That makes for a nice looking desktop, but that isn't what it is for IMO.

My desk top is a work space, just like the top of my desk. I keep it neat, my icons are bunched into appropriate groups, but they are all right there in front of me for when I need them. I don't want to hide them.

Metro seems to take that approach. I actually uses your entire desk top space and turns it into a functional space.

It will take some getting used to for sure, but I think I will like the end result.

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Engelsstaub

I'm getting an OEM copy when it comes out. I give less than a shit what others are in tears about.

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gmvolk

One reason I don't like "Metro" is that I prefer a minimalistic approach on my desktop. Very few icons, but everything I do need is safely tucked inside rainmeter launchers and/or the start menu(but not so much there). About the only thing on the desktop are temporary downloads or things like that. Metro just looks too cluttered, busy, ugly, insert adjective here. It's not what I want on my desktop. Not sure how this will play out on a tablet, which is where it is meant to be.

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xRadeon

You can remove the icons....

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xRadeon

You can remove the icons....

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TheMurph

Same here.  I like running desktop-clean.  I don't know why Microsoft couldn't just let you like, dump sets of Metro icons into a single, unified pop-out group, kind of like what I can do on Android...

That would certainly help to get things a little less cluttered!

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einstein1971

Murph maybe this would be a good time to write one of your infamous "year of the Linux desktop" articles. Seriously, you have a long history of being wrong. I've seen several articles on how designers are praising Microsoft's new approach. And didn't you say in an article for PC World back in 2009 (and I quote): "One of the core problems with Windows 7, which Microsoft will invariably not fix, stems from its utter similarity to Windows Vista. ". And then you said: "As for me? I think I'll go back to Vista for now..." So quit pretending, admit that for you Microsoft could have done nothing that you would approve of, and admit that you would under no circumstances give Win 8 a fair review. I have been using it since the Consumer Preview and love it. It's fast, makes sense, and very modern. At least it's something bold and not the same safe crap that the Linux and Apple fanboys keep putting out.

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TheMurph

Also, how many years have you been trolling this site now?  Lordy. You'd think you'd get tired of it after awhile.

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TheMurph

I didn't write "Year of the Linux Desktop."  Weak-sauce. 

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Engelsstaub

Actually Apple and the main Linux distros have not been playing it safe (as I assume you mean. I'm not sure how the fanboys have come to run the businesses but w/e.)

OS X has been becoming more "Windows-like" (bloated and cluttered IMO) since the release of Lion.

Fedora started using the controversial GNOME 3 UI as default, which even Linus Torvalds blasted.

Ubuntu has Unity as default. I'm certain you must have heard some of the backlash against that. (OT: Actually I don't get why Linux-users shit themselves over UI when they can just install the one they want...that's what's cool about Linux. With Windows and OS X, on the other hand, one pretty much hast to take what they're "given.")

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gmvolk

On my work PC, its a cluttered mess, albeit a cluttered mess that I can still use. My home PC desktop is squeaky clean. At least with 7 or XP you have that choice. With 8, MS is slowly forcing metro on us so when we get Windows 9 we won't think twice. Yes there are ways to get rid of it, but as you said "Fear Windows 9" when we can't get rid of it anymore. Maybe someday I'll go distro hopping again. And why would you stockpile ME? I would take 98 over ME anyday!

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stige

the "under the hood" improvements alone make this OS worth the upgrade.

all MS should really do to clarify the Metro / Start Menu confusion is to make the keyboard "Windows" key a toggle in stead of just an 'Open' mechanism. let us quickly get in and out of Metro just like we currently can the W7 Start Menu and I'm sure most other UI/UX quibbles will be tertiary and specific to only certain groups of people.

and, as MS is learning, you can't please everyone.

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captpuget

For the very first time not only won't I be upgrading Windows on the first day I can -- I won't ever upgrade to Windows 8. I don't remotely know what MS is thinking, but this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

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loozer

"Fear Windows 9." So true. Windows 8 is still windows, with "metro" attached on top. I just hope that "Metro" really isn't the future.

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jonathan1984

I absolutely agree. This brave new "future" that Windows 8 is supposed to lead us to? It's not a good place for consumers or computing. It's good for giving companies like Microsoft money and control over what we do with our machines. No, no, HELL no.

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Xenite

The comparison to Vista has been more about the fact it's going to bomb sales and adoption wise.

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Badass1982

I sincerely hope you are right!

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