Windows 8 Review

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MarioJP

Except vista was not awful. I upgraded to vista because i wanted to leave XP..

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whitneymr

It was beyond awful during the beta phase. I think the largest group of Vista haters were those of us ran the beta.

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einstein1971

Seriously, when did power user start to mean "last generation"? Sure Murph wants to continue rocking Vista (that's what he said in PC World back in 2009) but I thought we were supposed to be leading the stupid masses into the next generation. If our biggest complaint about something new is that it isn't like something old then we've lost the right call ourselves enthusiasts.

It's a new Start menu. Get over it. The desktop is still there. I remember when people bitched and complained about ProgMan not being in Windows 95 and actually ran Win95 like a 3.11 desktop. Are you kidding me?

This is why we got into this in the first place. Because new is what we like. Yes, you shuld run a Linux distro-it is awesome. I also run a Mac, Android, and iOS. They all have good and bad qualities. But the day we demand that every new OS looks exactly like our old OS then this platform we love will go the way of the mainframe and none of want that. Because the new future will be owned by Mac users and that is really scary.

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MarioJP

what is even more scarier is the fact Apple can change the UI to their liking and people will continue to buy. Yes you're right. PC's will become mainframe if people keep complaining against change, While Apple, Google and many other competitors have passed the "mainframe" era long time ago.

I have said it before and i am going to say it again. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Windows 8. I personally love it. Does this mean I will upgrade?. Not at the moment But I will eventually want to switch to Windows 8 for 3 reasons

1. They really improved the desktop and I have no problem with metro. It is also customizable

In fact. Metro is the new start menu replaced with Start screen. Just like the old start Menu you can remove the tiles. The difference between the Start Menu and Start Screen is that the Start screen its right there and just type in any letter of the keyboard to bring up the search instead of opening up explorer and click on the search next to the location bar.

2. Windows 8 Just looks good, sometimes making windows 7 kind of dated.

3.It is truly the next generation OS.

I don't know why people complain about this.

Go ahead and switch to Linux. The very least thing I want is another fragmented Android on the desktop lol.

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thechipper

Microsoft has been trying to transition to something like this for years unsuccessfully because they've stuck with too many core elements of the windows 3.1 and 95-98 OSes. It's actually a really easy interface to use. If you have to show someone how to use it, it is far less daunting to a new user than you think it would be. If you're already pretty talented with a computer anyways it would be a walk in the park for you to pick up. The majority of you people complain about everything all the time anyways. So it's pretty hard to take any of you seriously because you rock the biased everyone else has a stupid opinion because it doesn't align with my own attitude.

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stradric

Agreed. I'm willing to bet a considerable portion of commenters here haven't even tried windows 8. Not only that, but Windows 7 is still awesome and will be fully supported for some time. No need to upgrade if you don't want to, people. Calm down and return about your business.

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Eoraptor

Bottom line is this... We have a schitzo-effective OS here where there are two interfaces which are almost wholly disconnected from one another.

We also have an OS here which has to be tweaked right out of the box in order to be productive (such as changing the default app handlers).

As others have said, Desktop and Laptop computing is NOT Tablet and Smart Phone computing. One is for making productive interactions with large scale software, doing large amounts of data input, etc. The other is about watching videos, visiting websites where you probably don't need to type or mouse around a lot, and twittering out your ass.

And nary twixt the twain shall meet.

This is a dog of an interface not seen since the days of Microsoft Bob, which completely misses the point of a large scale operating system. Where Microsoft could have done what Apple does, and made a Desktop OS which has styling cues in common with it's tabphone brethren, and simply increased the size of controls for finger input, it instead chose to take the most inane path available to it, shotgunning two wholly different operating interfaces together (clumsily at that) trying to please everyone and ultimately pleasing no one.

this truly is MS Bob all over again.

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grexxman

Umm perhaps the hands-on-videos with WindowsRT are misleading but I think the info you have about it in this article is incorrect. WindowsRT will still have the Desktop but it will not allow "desktop" applications to be installed. It will include preinstalled Windows applications such as Paint, Remote Desktop (which I'm excited about) Computer Management, etc.

Here's a link to some videos with the hands-on demonstrations. Check out the video about Windows RT's Secret Desktop Apps

http://www.zdnet.com/hands-on-with-windows-rt-finally-7000003589/

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angryone

I might be wrong, but I think Windows 8 is going to be the undoing of Microsoft. Even selling it at a cheap price isn't going to help. There are many people out there like myself who are the local "tech support" for family, friends and co-workers, and we are not going to re-train every person we know how to use a computer. Even if I wanted to, I don't have the time for such an undertaking. I'm having a hard enough time teaching the people I know how to use the wonderful "ribbons" in Microsoft Office. After years of them learning and adapting to a mouse, I am not going to teach them Metro. When Microsoft loses enough money, maybe they will realize they need to have at least the option of a traditional desktop on Windows 9.

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Granite

I wonder. How many of the people you "teach" have smart phones or tablets...Android or Apple?

If any of them do, then they've already demonstrated that they can adapt to a new interface and manner of controlling their device. They know how to use a touch screen.

When prices for touch screen monitors come down...and they will...these people won't have any difficulty adapting.

As I said before, I'm interested in a Win8 tablet, but I won't be putting it on my desktop...at least not until I can afford a 27" touch screen monitor. When I can, I will jump into Win8 with both feet.

I'll eagerly embrace the future.

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Penterax

I don't have a smart phone. Heck, I don't have a cell phone at all. The other day my Father brought over his Transformer Prime. A beautiful piece of kit!

So he hands it to me to play with. And, guess what, I don't know what to do with it; I've never used a smart phone OS of any kind. Ice Cream Sandwich might be sweet to those who know Android already, but to me - I looked like the video of that guy's Dad faced with Win 8 Metro and no instruction.

Point is, Win 8 Metro was a lot easier to figure out and get used to than Android was. I plan on buying a smart phone soon, and it will be a Win 8 phone, because I'm here to tell you "the Emperor has no clothes on"; Android isn't very good. It might be better than iOS, but it's not a really good OS.

I don't like the way Metro is being handled in Win 8 (and, they are stupid if they think they are going to get rid of the name "Metro" at this point without replacing it with another name for the interface. Metro is NOT all of Win 8, or vice versa; if that were the case I'd be installing Ubuntu right now); it's short-sighted of Microsoft to try to do whatever they are trying to do the way they are doing it. There's no need to make people mad or feel disenfranchised or alienated. There's no need to take over the entire desktop with a changed version of the Start menu. It doesn't matter that most of the time you can avoid Metro as much as you shouldn't have to try to avoid it.

At the same time, the doom-callers are even more short-sighted than Microsoft is being at this point. Guess, what bubba, we've heard it all before; you're a broken Chicken Little record. People said things like "Vista made more Mac customers than anything Apple did." Yeah? well, where are they? Mac's were about 5% of the desktops before Vista, and they are about 5% now. Macs had no actual growth in sales when it was all over - and Apple is left with paying sites to pump up figures based on total smart phone and tablet sales, ignoring that these things aren't desktop computers and don't replace them.

People salivating over the potential demise of Microsoft (mostly weak, jealous types, the kind that are thrilled when anyone successful falls on their face in some way) will be disappointed once again, and rightly so. Bottom line, Windows is still the best OS for desktop users, regardless of Metro, and until someone gets really serious about challenging Microsoft, that's the way it will be.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

"Eagerly embrace the future" is the marketing line I've often seen strewn around here as part of Microsoft's damage control efforts. That it has come to such a pass is telling. So, happy Smurfing, and all that. But it's not going to help, though. You can't PR firm and damage control your way out of this mess.

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Granite

shrug...

You can characterize it as a "marketing line" all you want, but you won't stop the future from happening. You only have a choice of whether you will greet it willingly or have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into it.

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Mikey109105

No offense to anyone who thinks MS is god and Metro is the next coming, but my job approval rating for MS went from 100 to 0 from the last few months up to today. I refuse to have anything whatsoever to do with Windows 8. MS screwed up royally with this OS in my opinion. Ballmer can shove his company's ideas for Windows right back up his backside. If Windows 9 just so happens to go back to an ACTUAL desktop like 7 is, then I'll consider supporting MS again. Until then, I'll stick with my fabulous Windows 7.

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stradric

You don't really know how Microsoft works, do you? They make a killing on licensing of all sorts. Office is their cash cow, and it runs only in their OS. They are a juggernaut and can push out to market products that test the waters. Vista was one. The original xbox was another. The following cycle, they release an excellent product. Windows 7 was and is excellent. The Xbox 360 took notice on what modders did to the Xbox and made a device somewhere in between that has surpassed Sony's offering in a number of ways.

Supporting my claim is the fact that Microsoft has for some time now been releasing "bad" OSes like Windows 95, ME, Vista, and potentially Windows 8. In between, they've had pretty decent OSes like 3.11, 98SE, XP and 7. On the xbox side, the original xbox had a spot on the motherboard that might as well have had a sign on it saying "place modchip here." The xbox 360 had no such spot.

So, yes, take Windows 8 for what it is and f'n relax. Windows 8 is going to sell well in the tremendously popular tablet market. Desktop users can upgrade if they want or stick with Windows 7 and wait for 9. Your knee jerk reaction to Windows 8 makes you look petty.

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edwartr

Um, Stradric, Microsoft Office is MS's cash cow; but it also runs on Macs and has for years - since 1989 even before the Office Package was released for Windows. http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Steve Ballmer has it in his fat head that people buy computers for the OS. Or, that he can MAKE people buy computers for the OS.

We buy computers for the application software they can run, shit that WON'T run on a fucking phone or sissy-ass tablet. And the operating system is supposed to stay in the background, supporting the application software.

The IN-YOUR-FACE Windows 8 experience is a bad fucking joke. I won't use it, ever. I'm not pitching my PC, business applications, and games so I can fucking Twitter and Facebook from my couch.

Steve Baldmore may think he's on the path to a monthly service fee model bundled with branded hardware. Truth is, Microsoft is on a clear path to financial disaster.

Good thing they still have the X-Box.

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maxeeemum

Quite amusing!!! Nice spin!!! As I've said before Windows 8 is DOA! The average user will never accept it.

Fear Windows 9 ??? LOL! Fear the average consumer! When no one buys M$ will understand. Win8 will make Vista look like a huge success.

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ThomFrost

I will not be getting it for several reasons.

1) I don't have any touch screens for my computers.
2) Most of the time I will set 5+ feet from my screen so even if I did I would have to stretch out my arms.
3) It's hard enough to play games on a tablet using touch, it would be a nightmare on a computer.
4) Looking at fingerprints on my tablet drives me crazy it would be worse on a computer screen.

I think M$ is doing this because they don't want the overhead and expense of supporting more than one OS.
I feel this will be for M$ a new ME/Vista.
If they don't release a patch to remove the metro desktop with in 6 months of its release I would be surprised.

An OS should be a means to an end not the destination.
M$ is bloating Windows down with all of this nonsense that it has stopped being laughable.
How many times can M$ shoot themselves in the foot before they bleed to death?

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TrollBot5000

Heres my take. To re-iterate yes metro is inclined for the tablet market and I like many others think it should be as far from a desktop environment as possible. I was wondering what under the hood benefits windows8 was going to offer. This article cleared up any questions I had so now the question remains... upgrade and use start8 to send the abominable metro back to the nether regions where it belongs or just keep it simple stupid and keep sailing smoothly along with windows 7. To all of you screaming It's LINUX time!!! Trust me I've used linux as a primary OS for a couple years and can honestly say that it still isn't ready for the desktop. I had a long winded diatribe on linux typed but I scrapped it since this really isnt the article to blab on and on about linux. I guess the best thing to do is listen to the old adage "if it aint broke dont fix it" why bother with windows 8. If I ever have to reformat my OS partition maybe Ill throw 8 on for a spin but as of now what's the point? 7 works.

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Meat_Juice

Where did you find the pussy to write this article? Go stroke your tablet.

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TheMurph

I don't even get what you're trying to say here.  But let's just leave it at that, eh?

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BryceBooth

MaximumPC is a great magazine, and a dedicated staff. Don't be childish, have some respect.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

LOL.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

LOL.

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AndroRabbit

What Microsoft has missed is that what people want to do with their phones, PCs, tablets, etc is accomplish tasks. Whether that's email or Facebook or looking at videos or playing games, or making calls, these are all relatively simple tasks.

Programs and apps do these tasks. Not the operating system. Nobody -or hopefully nobody- uses the OS to do any of this stuff. Its job is just to run the hardware and facilitate the tasks. A dull job but something has to do it. That's all an OS needs to be.

The problem with Microsoft going back to Windows Phone Mobile is that they want the OS itself to be THE app, and thus we have had start buttons shoved onto PDAs and phones and now a tablet interface shoved onto everything. Sure it's what Microsoft wants but does any of this help users actually DO anything? Does Metro help anyone surf the web? Doubtful. Does it help anyone work on an Excel file? Don't think so. Does it help play Youtube videos better than another OS? Um... well. No.

Where again is the value Microsoft is bringing to this table? Is it just their will that this is how its going to be and we're darn well going to eat our cold oatmeal and like it?

Maybe this "our way or the highway" approach worked in 1990. You had a PC and for many people, it was hard to use without Microsoft's help. Programs all had their own GUIs and obtuse commands. But this is 2012. Programmers, users, and the devices they use are all much smarter and no longer need a crutch OS to mediate. Usability has gone from using the OS to make things usable to having the app or task do that for you and the experience is largely the same whether someone is using a phone OS (pick one) or linux or a Mac or Windows. You could be forgiven if you forget entirely which OS is actually on the device and that's how it should be.

The sad truth is that Microsoft's future role is probably in the server and business markets and far less in the home -in no small way because the concept of a dedicated "home PC" is fading and transforming into the thing you carry in your bag or pocket. Never again will we have images of IBM AT-type boxes on a desk with a bulky CRT and dot matrix printers. Now, you get a phone that can do more and does not need a desk.

Where is the room for a big OS like Windows when there's less need for a desktop PC? Scary place for a company like Microsoft. Of course they have to make us use Windows 8. They don't have a choice. But the users do and they know it.

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whitneymr

Well said and the massive silence to this says a lot.

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Badass1982

The amount of money I tend to spend on my computers, there is no way I would/will run that pile of garbage on my PC's EVER. If I wanted a pretty interface I would purchase 1 from a third party. Bye Bye Microsoft (unless Metro is removed or the classic view is provided by a SP)

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0ly1r3m@1ns

Windows8 is amazing under the hood, but Metro seriously just ruins the whole thing making your computer completely unusable, I for one am moving to Linux when steam for linux comes out (since it will basically fix all of Linuxes glaring problems support, games, standardization) Windows8 might be a good tablet OS but I really fail to see the need of a tablet when I have my laptop and phone. Microsoft should really listen to their consumers and just give an option to disable Metro and you would have the best OS they have ever made.

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MarioJP

Now you exaggerating lol. I love metro. Start Menu has been replaced with a start screen Simple as that.

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Chronologist

Yeap. Even if steam goes to linux, what people fail to realize is that most titles wont go to linux. Linux ports will probably take at least a month or two after launch day, probably more, if it all.

Stop saying "IM GOING TO HIT LINUX ASAP"

you know you'll just stay on windows 7.

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MarioJP

The problem here is that, people can't accept that our beloved "traditional" computing has drastically changed. Back then "the computer" was the only thing we had. Now "the computer" has spawn little cousin of its own. Now we have smartphones and now your TV's. whats next, your refrigerator is going to connect to the internet and suggest whats on sale before you head out the door??

My point being is Windows 8 is not meant for the now. It is made for the future in mind. as years goes by, MS is going to look back and say. "good choice". Yes Microsoft is taking a risk by making most users unhappy, but lets face it. The "computer" has spawn babies of its own and fused itself to every where we go literally lol. Already people are saying that they don't even need to use their computers anymore.

If that's not enough. People are relying on the cloud for storage, and software is being designed in such a way that would require a user to login to use. If this keeps going the way it is. The "Personal" Computer is going to be renamed to "Public" Computer, which means desktops and laptops still be around but will no longer matter as software has been cater to smartphones and tablets and of course the cloud.

This is what Microsoft is really thinking.

Its time to let the past go.

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Scatter

The point is that there was absolutely no reason for our beloved, traditional computer to change in the first place. This was simply change for the sake of change and there's no reason that people should be willing to accept it. Are you telling me that including a "Classic Mode" would have broken the entire product? Of course it wouldn't have.

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MarioJP

That's a funny statement. man you people are like the XP that just want to stay there forever . I don't know why people get so upset with Windows 8 is unbelievable.

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lordfirefox

Unless they make 27 inch tablets you won't see me gaming on one. Tablets are nothing more than gimmicky toys to the hardcore PC gamer.

I like my 27" LCD panel. I like my 5.1 surround sound and yes I like my mouse and keyboard.

The only thing you'll ever see me using a tablet for is when I'm out of the house and I need to look something up on Google. My desktop fulfills all my gaming needs. More than a tablet with a dinky 10" screen would.

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MarioJP

Come back to that statement 5-10 years from now maybe even sooner due to how things are rapidly changing by the day. I really don't see anything wrong with Metro. The desktop is there and fully functional if not better than 7. But metro allows me to search for things and takes me to the "file manager" directly.

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Chronologist

No one ever said that tablets would replace gaming rigs we know and love. They'll be pushing out laptops, and low end OEM deskboxes.

Actually, if we see Razer's Project Fiona come to light (and other similiar tablets), they'll definitely give consoles a good run for their money, and displace low-end gaming machines.

And MarioJP is right. This is a move for the future. Microsoft is trying to make a push into the rapidly increasing portable section; tablets and smartphones. The reason why win8 is so clunky, is that MS is trying to cater to us pro-desktop-ers, while getting pushing their interfaces forward. Forcing Metro may seem like a horrible idea, but it's one thats necessary.

An example? Look at facebook. Everytime there's an update to the interface, it's met with so much opposition; but as people are forced to use it, they learn and adapt, and forget about what they were complaining about.

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0ly1r3m@1ns

you're missing the point people still want to use their computers as well fucking computers, my Desktop or laptop isn't a phone I need to get work done, metro doesn't allow me to do this. this is mentioning the cluster fuck of gestures and other shit that would be a pain even on a tablet.

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MarioJP

Problem with that statement. is that Windows 8 is not a phone OS. just click desktop and you there. There is even a shortcut. How is it a phone when you can still install full software installation. I wish my phone you can install programs instead of the cheesy apps that is on the market place.

I am sorry but until the desktop is no more that comment is invalid. I would sure would love that kind of thing on a tablet able to install programs.

If the desktop was completely removed I could see why. But its just a UI that's it. Quite frankly I look at it the new and improve start screen which helps me to find things quicker because its in your face. Not a start menu that you have to either hit the windows key or click start menu to get to your list. Even that it is still not efficient. I like things that are in your face. This is why Windows 7 you can pin to task bar. This only takes it a step further.

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BryceBooth

I agree with you MarioJP, I as well plan on moving to Windows 8. People are just generally afraid of change, even if it is more efficient.

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Scatter

The way that they turned Windows 8 into a phone OS is that they took away all the customability that Windows was known for and turned it into a Cell phone straight from Verizon with pre installed apps on it that you really don't want but are stuck with if you want the phone.

Metro could have been an option with a simple on/off button. That would have been giving customers what they wanted. Instead Microsoft stuck out their middle fingers to their user base and told us that we're getting what they want us to have.

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brentrad

All the customization is still there Scatter. My Windows 8 desktop looks almost identical to my Windows 7 desktop, except they killed off Aero and windows are more flat and monochrome. Install a free program like Skip Metro Suite and it will boot directly into the desktop once you login to your user account.

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Nimrod

Ill be getting 8 for my new SB-E build. The The enhanced threading is just to much to lose along with the SSD improvements. The USB3 will be good since im also a photog but i dont see why they couldnt have just added that to 7 in an update. I also want to see the new JPEG thing in action. IM also a gamer yes. IF i can get an app that will skip the Metrosexual UI then i really dont see a reason to skip 8. Im with Gordan on this one.

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brentrad

Skip Metro Suite (free) will skip the Metro UI and boot right to the desktop once you log in.

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torquemator

I have to say that I don't like the direction they're going. I won't be buying Windows 8 with Metro anytime soon.

I never look at, or even see my desktop. All the common apps I use load at startup, take their designated places on my screen, and anything new I need to start up is on the quicklaunch, underneath the row of taskbar application buttons.

If at all possible, I avoid touching the mouse. I'll tab before I try to click into a new editbox or alt-tab before I click to get to a new window. Everything is just faster if I don't constantly have to move my right hand to the mouse and back a lot. When playing 3d games, I might be on the mouse, I might not (WoW and Guild Wars 2, not so much mouse, on Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 it's all about coordinated mouse and keyboard action). But as soon as feasible, my hands are back on the home keys, and keyboard shortcuts help me get everything done faster. I like to see lots of windows open, and I frequently switch between them.

The only touch device I own is a 4-year old iPhone 3G, and with the new dongle for the iPhone 5, that's not going to be an upgrade path for me.

When I watch videos, it's VLC, never that overblown DRM laden POS that is Windows Media Center, and I play them in a window, sometimes on my second montior while playing a 3d game, sometimes not. I use Firefox because of the add-ons and because it avoids the Google and Microsoftian "We will tell you what options you want, you're a dumb user so we'll protect you from your stupidity" attitude. I avoid Flash and Silverlight whenever possible, and I wouldn't have SVL loaded at all except it's required for Netflix.

I have no use case for a Metro interface in my computing life, anywhere. Granted, my phone has that tile interface, but it's a phone, I don't do any computing on it, nor would I want to, it's far to small and limited to do anything useful in that space. I understand that people like to sit on the couch and use their pads during commercials to play games. I'd have to watch TV first, I guess. I gave that up years ago because it became far too boring to interact repeatedly with any electronic device that doesn't have a keyboard and mouse attached, and the TV just started putting me to sleep. I've borrowed and used other people's pads (iPad, Nexus, Kindle), and while they're "cute little things", I'd never have a use for one. They're impossible to touch type on (80wpm with no errors on a pad? not in this lifetime), don't multitask very well (what, I can't have my favorite 20 apps open at once?!? my laptop and desktop handle that just fine, why can't this little thing?), and are far too fragile for the money you have to put out to buy one. They're stylish, sure, and up your g33k street cred whenever you whip one out, but if it's not functional the way I need it to be then it's not going in my arsenal.

So Aero is gone. Never used it. Same with gadgets? Never used them either. Both were a consumer of resources I'd prefer were devoted to Prime95 of Folding@Home. I've desperately searched for a way to remove Windows Media Center from my Windows 7 Alienware, but I haven't found any way to do it yet (and it's annoying the heck out of me - since every time I fire up Guild Wars, the MCE pops up like it's trying to "play" the game somehow, and it won't go away so I have to let it sit there behind other windows till I reboot).

I certainly understand why Microsoft went the way of Windows 8 Metro, but it doesn't fit the way I use Windows in any way, shape, or form. I bet, though, if I wait a couple years, Microsoft will put out a patch, fix, or something to make it more useful for those of us who prefer a classic interface.

And here's something to think on. My car has a steering wheel, brake pedal, gas pedal, and basic instruments. Just like nearly every car back to 1930 (or longer). Consistent interface saves lives on the highway, and makes it easier for everyone. Why do software companies insist that things have to be changed around? I don't want my steering wheel under the hood, and my brake pedal in the trunk. Why do they insist on trying to put them there, and then lambast ME as the one with the problem when I bring up valid issues with their design? Change, for the better, is good, but change for the sake of change, never ever is. For me, so far, this change is not.

-Tork

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whitneymr

My God man what's wrong with your ideas about how FAH works? Folding only uses your SPARE CPU cycles, so with 20 things open Folding is running like you have CPU utilization set at about 30 or 40%. To get the most work done in FAH use should have nothing running at all when your away from the computer so it can get busy.

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brentrad

Install Skip Metro Suite and the only time you'll see the Metro interface is when you hit the Start button on your keyboard to search. And here's the part that should be of the most interest to you: Windows 8 is faster at most tasks on my old fairly slow AMD Athlon x2 5200+ with 2 GB RAM than Windows 7 was. AND Microsoft has killed off Metro - now all the window edges (frames?) are flat and solid color. Take it for a spin before dismissing it, you might actually like it. I expected to not like it, but since I installed it and tried it on my home (non-touch) desktop, I liked it enough to now want to uninstall my Windows 7 dual-boot.

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BryceBooth

Go to Add/Remove Windows Features, uncheck Windows Media Center from the Media drop-down box, voila. 20 apps open at once is hardly multitasking, sounds more like a hindrance. A person who types out a single document at 10 wpm will finish faster than one who types 80 wpm and is unable to focus on the task at hand, and all those apps are just a waste of resources. I for one, will certainly upgrade to Windows 8 after all, a new car will always be better than an old one (safer, more efficient, etc)

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Nimrod

so get the app that skip Metro and get over it. Ill enjoy my multitasking with the enhanced thread scheduler thank you very much. And if your so concerned about things taking up your CPU cycles. . ., have fun running your UI on the CPU. I had said years and years ago that it should all be rendered on the GPU, now it finally will be, just not in your case.

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MrGeek

Will it play Skyrim, Rise Of Flight, WoW, GW2, Crysis, etc without any issues? That's all I care for!

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