Windows 7 Feature Focus: Virtual Windows XP (AKA XP Mode)

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AzMonguse

I just installed Win7 and XP Mode - yet when I try to run XP Mode I ger this error: "Cannont start virtual pc while another virtualization software is running. Please close the other vistualization software and try again."

 

I have uninstalled both files needed to set-up XP Mode searched the hard drives for any other copy and I cannot find any. Can anyone help me out with this problem?

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dcutter

In 64 bit Win 7, does Virtual XP also run 64 bit so that my older 32-bit drviers will not work?  Thanks.

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Shalbatana

 Okay I apologise for being a max PC reader and having to say this, but I haven't tried Windows 7.

 That out of the way, my big question that needs answering is "what are the issues in windows 7 that makes programs/hw not work? From 98 to XP it was the 8bit programming limitation. But no one has yet to say what criteria we should look for in our current HW/SW to say "this probably won't work", or "I'm ok, none of this applies to me".

If I don't know what the issue is, then I'm afraid to even try upgrading.

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Founck

Just so you know, XP mode will only recognize one optical drive.  This disappointed me and I thought I'd let you guys know.

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aviaggio

I guess if you have a lot of XP programs that won't run in Win7 this could be useful. But it just seems to me it has so many limitations. You must have the professional or better version (an extra $50 for the pre-order; an extra $70 later) and have a processor that supports HV.

And I have to question some of the "cons" presented in the article about generic VPC. I've been using it for many years now, and it works flawlessly once the additions are installed (and why on earth wouldn't you install them?). I can drag and drop from VPC to my desktop, share all my USB devices (even use devices that don't have Vista or Win7 drivers like my scanner and Skype box), print to my printer, connect to the Internet -- pretty much do anything and everything I need to do except things that require Direct3D.

I don't understand why we should have to pay for the more expensive version of Win7 AND be limited by the hardware when the free version of VPC works just fine without either of those things. Ok, you don't get the "seamless integration", but from what I just read it's not all that seamless anyway.

I just don't get it. Why bother? If you've got that many XP programs you need to support, stick with XP.

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Marcus_Soperus

Aside from being stuck inside the Windows XP desktop, the biggest limitation I see with Virtual PC 2007 + Windows XP is the lack of support for USB storage devices. The inability to access card readers, flash drives  and backup drives that use USB ports with VPC2007+Win XP is a big limitation for many users.

I'm glad Virtual PC 2007 + Windows XP is working well for you, but a lot of business users need a more powerful virtualization solution.

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And I was soooo hoping to be able to run Vista in Windows 7. I hear tell they are going to take the ease-of-use of NT, the stability of Me, and the mobility of Ce to release Windows CeMeNT ! All hail the brick! 

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FRAGaLOT

I've been running Windows 7 since it came out on beta.. so where IS this XP mode located?  Using serarch in Win7 is tottally pointless looking for this.

 

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Marcus_Soperus

Take a look at page 2:

Q. How do I get XP Mode?

A. There are two files you need to make XP Mode a reality:

First, download the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows Virtual PC (choose the same version as your edition of Windows 7 supports). Second, download Windows XP Mode.

Both are available from the Microsoft Virtual PC website.

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Vegan

Q. Is XP Mode designed for 3D gaming?

A. No. XP Mode does not support 3D graphics APIs such as DirectX. If
you need to play 3D games that will not run in Windows 7, set up a
dual-boot environment.

 

Crap. Looks like I wasted 50 bucks. Oh well, maybe it'll come in handy for REALLY legacy games that Win7 flat-out won't run.

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ebeale

Thanks for the tips. I was having trouble getting it to shut down so I could increase the memory

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ZayLay

XP mode doesn't work in virtual windows 7.  I haven't wanted to install the beta on a computer and have been testing in virtual pc, but xp mode won't work.  Virtual PC won't work within a Virtual PC, aww man that sucks.

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Zoomer

I heard you like windows so we tried putting Virtual XP in your Virtual 7....but now you just fail while you fail. Sorry about that.

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wk

 so if processor doesn't support HV like mine (T5800). is that means XP mode will not run on my laptop?

Great!! i had just bought this lap few months ago.

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Marcus_Soperus

XP Mode requires hardware virtualization (HV), and I find that Intel's "some have it, others don't" attitude about HV pretty frustrating. Although Intel's fastest CPUs beat AMDs, virtually all recent AMD desktop and laptop CPUs except for the ultra-cheapo Semprons support HV. That's one of the reasons my next laptop will probably be an AMD-based model. For more information about HV support in Intel and AMD processor families, see the end of this early story on XP Mode: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/some_windows_7_editions_offer_free_virtualized_windows_xp

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arch-chancellor

XP Mode does work, mostly, where Compatibility Mode never has, despite what some nationally syndicated talk show hosts say. However, XPM is extremely slow to start, and even just using the apps pinned to the Win 7 start menu take forever. I can't just copy from desktop to desktop, I have to find the file on the networked 7 host drives within XPM and copy it to the XPM drive. Is anybody still following me? I have corporate version of Norton. It doesn't work with Vista or 7, but it does work with XPM. However, it only protects the XPM drive, not the 7 host. Pretty much, I'm going to keep an XP box running on a network for those one or two occasional XP only apps while running teh latest and "greaty-est" Win 7 stuff.

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tkddan87

i can deffinatly see VWinXP being usefull. i can think of more than a few apps i would like to run..

I am curious though how MS is dealing with the resources with each instance of a XP program running in its own VM.  it is not hard to see 3-4 gb being used by a few apps.  better make sure you have alot of RAM and no limit on the virtural memory size

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