Stop SOPA And PIPA! A Primer

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win7fanboi

BTW this happened without SOPA : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369

In case you needed help imagining a post-SOPA world.

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win7fanboi

I think the MPAA screwed themselves having a long record of being over zealous and tyrant about persecuting american citizens. They have been trying to make examples out of the ones they catch by trying to extort unrealistic and unfair amount from regular joe/jane. If they hadn't done that I think it was lot more likely that this bill would pass. Also, govt. has proven in the past that they are not equipped to handle power and no one has much trust in our senators anymore.

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mhouston100

I'm seeing in the very close future the invention by the online community of a decentralised DNS service or a complete replacement. I know work was done over the past 12 months or so to create a P2P DNS system partly based on Bittorrent but didn't really get much traction. The international community should def be taking action to decentralise as much of the internet as possible.

Similar to when they started to crack down on centralized filesharing in Napster/Limewire/Kazaa that spurned the creation of decentralised alternatives like Bittorent.

This just really highlights not just the fact that your US congress is so utterly corrupt (that was already known anyway, and don't worry, here in AUS they are not much better) but also that the net as we know it is such a fragile thing.

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JohnP

Recently, Pirate Bay has announced that it will be going completely over to P2P magnet links where there is absolutely NOTHING on their site that is illegal as there will no longer be links to tracker sites. Magnet Links can also be stored as plain text and in very small storage spaces so a complete list such as Pirate Bay could easily fit on a USB stick. Magnet links work fine.
All this legislation and STILL the government will be behind the curve. They won't even be able to stop Pirate Bay without trying to make up with some reason that it is doing something illegal besides just having a list of names of copyrighted material (which Amazon and IMDB also have).
Even if they do close down Pirate Bay, a quick and dirty website can pop up in minutes with a complete list of magnet links.

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bling581

"All this legislation and STILL the government will be behind the curve."

Forever and ever will they be behind the curve. Every attempt to stop piracy has failed. Companies try and write new kinds of DRM and someone out there finds a way to hack it. This is how it will always be so they should just give up and find new ways to make money using modern technology instead of trying to fight a losing battle. Someone somewhere is always going to find a loop hole in the law or find a way to crack the latest DRM protection.

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tony2tonez

I contacted both of my crappy Senators from NY. Both of their planes could explode and I wouldnt care. I did it through Wiki and Google. F-them both, NY Senators.

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warptek2010

Yep, my Senators too. Shmucky Schumer was listed as being FOR the bill. Apparently, being against the bill would provide him with less TV and camera opportunities thus his support for it.

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tekknyne

I called my congressman in lower michigan a few months back and got some dumb-ass intern who had no idea what SOPA even is. I bet he knows now.

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chart2006

I contacted both state senators of Illinois and this is a response from Mr. Durbin in which he could care less as to what my opinion is as long as his pockets are filled with money from the companies that support it. What ever happened to presumption of innocence or "innocent until proven guilty" as we know it. Notice paragraph 4 first sentence. It implies if we think you are infringing we'll take you down then you can spend thousands of dollars in legal fees to prove your innocence of which we will then allow you back up.

Dear Mr. Hart:

Thank you for contacting me to express your concern about the Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property (PROTECT IP) Act of 2011 and the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). I appreciate hearing from you.

The bipartisan PROTECT IP Act (S. 968), which was based on last year’s Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act, would authorize the Department of Justice to pursue court orders to take action against websites that are dedicated to selling pirated and counterfeit goods. I am a cosponsor of S. 968.

It is important to note that this legislation seeks to address a serious problem without inappropriately restricting Internet freedom. The Justice Department currently lacks tools to effectively enforce anti-piracy and counterfeiting laws against websites that are dedicated to distributing material in violation of these laws.

This legislation seeks to address this problem by enabling the Justice Department to target these websites through court orders, while also providing the websites with the opportunity to petition a court to lift an order. The bill is narrowly tailored so as not to include legitimate websites and it includes important procedural protections to prevent misuse of this authority. For a court order to be issued, the Justice Department must show that the website in question is directed at customers in the United States and that it harms holders of U.S. intellectual property. In addition, the Department is required to promptly serve notice of the action after the filing.

S. 968 provides a narrower definition of a website “dedicated to infringing activities” than the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act. In addition, while the PROTECT IP Act would authorize the Attorney General and rights holders to bring actions against online infringers operating a rogue website or domain, the remedies are limited to blocking financial gains of the site but not blocking access. Also, this bill ensures that third-parties (e.g. internet service providers, payment processors, advertising networks) are not overly burdened to comply with an order beyond what is feasible and reasonable.

In May 2011, this bill was approved unanimously by a voice vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee. The Senate will vote on whether to bring debate to a close on PROTECT IP Act in January 2012.

In the House of Representatives, Representative Lamar Smith of Texas introduced the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), H.R. 3261. This bill has many of the same provisions as the PROTECT IP Act, such as providing the Justice Department with legal tools to prevent foreign websites from selling copyrighted material to American consumers. However, H.R. 3261 has more stringent requirements for third-parties to comply with court orders. This bill has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee.

Effective enforcement of intellectual property laws is critical to the encouragement of innovation and the creation of jobs. In recent years, we have seen a proliferation of Internet websites that are devoted to the unauthorized distribution and sale of pirated and counterfeit goods. These websites deprive innovators and businesses of revenue and result in the loss of American jobs. In addition, these websites present a public health concern when they sell counterfeit, adulterated, or misbranded pharmaceutical products.

I will keep your views in mind as the Senate considers this issue in the coming months.

Sincerely,
Richard J. Durbin
United States Senator

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bling581

Yeah I got pretty much the same thing from my Senator. Just some pre-written BS response.

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chart2006

My response back to Mr. Durbin:

Dear Mr. Durbin

I am a long time supporter of yours and the many changes you've implemented for the better. However my concern is with your support for the SOPA/PIPA legislation. Both these questionable bills, if passed, will threaten our 4th Amendment rights and more.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Additionally this effectively bypasses the Presumption of Innocence as the bills give the content holder the right to take the so-called infringing site down, without probable cause, until the site owner can prove their innocence. The idea of the POI is that the burden of proof that the site is truly infringing, falls on the prosecution to make it less painful for the site/person. Prove to me without the shadow of a doubt that the site is infringing upon someones content and then and ONLY then take the site down.

Furthermore the bills would force websites to delete links bound for infringing sites. So what if I shared a blog from the Washington Post on my Facebook? This in turn would result in not only me being fined but Facebook as well. Do you see the issue with this??? Since the bills would also govern ad networks and payment processors it would result in these organizations to ban possibly NON-infringing websites before it's been proven to earn immunity rather than face prosecution or being taken to court if they were. This will result in a domino effect in which many sites will simply be banned whether infringing or not. I see no difference in a General in the military saying there is an acceptable level of loss of life in a conflict. A single life lost is simply unacceptable and so is this.

I would be glad to support a bill which also addresses a provision for "fair use" of content as well as an appropriate system to address copyright infringement issues. Show me such a bill!!! Organizations such as the MPAA and the RIAA have taken advantage of consumers for far too long and time and time again I see congress' pockets being filled by their money. It's called find a middle ground that will make both consumer and copyright holder happy. I understand that you can't make everyone happy but these bills are one sided (obviously in favor of copyright holders). Find a balance!!! Combine the benefits of both SOPA/PIPA and the original Fair Use Act. Above all don't give the copyright holder the power to take sites down without due process as that power always should fall to the department of justice. If given the power competition will be stifled due to power abuse. These companies will take a site down if they feel they are being too competitive whether or not they are infringing. At least to them the site is down long enough to saturate the market with their propaganda.

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dj_unibob

I have been in contact with my local reps about this more than once over the past couple months, even when these 2 pieces of unconstitutional legislation were still unheard of.

Only one has taken the time to get back to me and he is the only one who isn't a career politician that is also a follower of the constitution.

These bills blatantly violate the 4th amendment, particularly in regards to sites that are on US Soil.

Article IV:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

These bills would take away due process and could set the course for further taking away what few rights we Americans still have left.

If This post went a little too far, then remove it and also notify me on the forums, thanks you.

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win7fanboi

Thanks for sharing, When elections come around I hope people remember the politicians that are trying to push these through and show them their distaste by voting for their opponent.

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Brad Chacos

Just wanted to share some personal, non-MPC endorsed thoughts about SOPA/PIPA from my position as a both a heavy-duty content creator/copyright holder and an entrenched webizen. I'm in an interesting position as I have a personal stake in both sides of the SOPA/PIPA debate. Linking to a post on my G+ account to drive home the "non-MPC endorsed" bit even further.

 

People steal my content and infringe my copyrights EVERY DAY and I still oppose SOPA/PIPA.

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Biceps

I wanted to share with everyone an email I received from Senator Feinstein (who is based in Palo Alto, the center of the Silicon Valley). I want to emphasize that I got this email THIS MORNING - and that this email shows that she still supports this legislation. This battle is NOT won, as so many people may be thinking.

MaxPC Staff: if my posting this violates part of the TOS, feel free to take it down, but I felt it important to share.

The letter:

"Dear Mr. (REMOVED) :

I received your letter expressing opposition to the "Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property Act," commonly known as the "PROTECT IP Act." I appreciate knowing your views on this matter.

The "PROTECT IP Act" (S. 968) gives both copyright and trademark owners and the U.S. Department of Justice the authority to take action against websites that are "dedicated to infringing activities." These are websites that have "no significant use other than engaging in, enabling, or facilitating" copyright infringement, the sale of goods with a counterfeit trademark, or the evasion of technological measures designed to protect against copying.

The bill does not violate First Amendment rights to free speech because copyright piracy is not speech.

America's copyright industry is an important economic engine, and I believe copyright owners should be able to prevent their works from being illegally duplicated and stolen. The protection of intellectual property is particularly vital to California's thriving film, music, and high-technology industries.

I understand you have concerns about the "PROTECT IP Act." While I voted in favor of this bill when it was before the Senate Judiciary Committee, I have also been working with California high-technology businesses to improve the bill and to address the concerns of high-tech businesses, public interest groups and others. I recognize the bill needs further changes to prevent it from imposing undue burdens on legitimate businesses and activities, and I will be working to make the improvements, either by working with Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) or through amendments on the Senate floor.

On May 26, 2011, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed the "PROTECT IP Act" for consideration by the full Senate. Please know I will keep your concerns and thoughts in mind should the Senate proceed to a vote on this legislation. As you may be aware, Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) has introduced similar legislation, the "Stop Online Piracy Act" (H.R. 3261), in the House of Representatives.

Once again, thank you for sharing your views. I hope you will continue to keep me informed on issues of importance to you. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841.

Wishing you a happy 2012.

Sincerely yours,

Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator"

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DoctorX

*facepalm*

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Cade795

Got a reply from my congressman (Charles W. Boustany, Jr., M.D.) that included this.

"In addition, Congressman Darrell Issa (CA-49) is in the process of writing a bill, titled the Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade Act, or OPEN Act. This bill also seeks to strike at the heart of online piracy while addressing concerns about the Stop Online Piracy Act. Congressman Issa has posted a draft text of the bill online which can be found here (http://keepthewebopen.com/), and is soliciting suggestions and comments from the general public on the content of the bill. This bill has not yet been introduced in the House of Representatives."

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warptek2010

Wow, aren't our representatives so industrious and hard at work on our behalf? Oh, and they also know so much more than the rest of us. A POX on their whole house.

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Neufeldt2002

For those of us not in the US

http://americancensorship.org/modal/state-dept-petition/index.html

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win7fanboi

You can also talk with your vote by letting Lamar Smith know that he won't get away with what he is trying do.
http://judiciary.house.gov/news/01172012.html

I know I definitely won't be voting for our current president if these bills pass.

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Caboose

Obama has already indicated that he is against SOPA and will veto it.

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Biceps

Obama never said he would veto SOPA, he said he wouldn't support it. Obama DID say he would veto the NDAA (that bill that says any American can be indefinitely detained) and then signed it anyway. The guy never does what he says he is going to do, so don't count on 'Hopey' to save your ass on this one.

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win7fanboi

Stuff like that makes me sick. I wanted to hope when he got hired that being an educated, articulate and fairly uncorrupted (AFAIK) man things would change. TSA rent-a-cops were given way too much power in Bush era IMO. Things just got worse in Obama's term. The cockpits have bullet proof doors now and I am sure they have taught the staff measures to prevent staff from letting the plane being taken over. That plus metal detectors and random thorough checks should be enough. Instead we have to put up with :
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/12/strip-searched-grandma-says-tsa-removed-her-underwear/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40360965/ns/travel-news/

http://vimeo.com/16710243?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+appleViaJamesInGoogleReader+(RSS+Apple)

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/11/18/another-tsa-outrage/

http://tsaoutrage.com/blog/

This country is in a sad state, economically and morally.

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Caboose

Ah ok. I was only going on the bit of info that I had heard.

I'm not American, but I do support the anti-SOPA movement.

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Biceps

@Caboose: Fair enough. We (the freedom-loving ones, anyway) appreciate your support in crushing SOPA and PIPA. Sorry in advance if we f*ck up your Internet. Sorry also if I came off as abrasive - just trying to tell it how it is.

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win7fanboi

I hope that happens but from what I understand he said he is against it "as it stands". Even a neutered down version of this bill will be disastrous.

ICE/DOJ already have more power than sense:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17575/ice_domain_seizures_relied_on_twisted_evidence_and_mpaa_say_so

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/12/ice-admits-months-long-seizure-of-music-blog-was-a-mistake.ars

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Biceps

@win7fanboi: keep'em coming! Thank you for the info.

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win7fanboi

Good info. Thanks Brad.

Also bear in mind people, once a bill like this passes it's a slippery slope. Remember when only change TSA initiated in the beginning was to make us take off our shoes. Next thing you know, you are in going through a scanner that lets the TSAssholes view you completely nude. Some types of scanners have even been proven to possibly cause cancer.

Fight SOPA

Internet won't be the same if any version of these bills pass.

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Brad Chacos

Told you there might be a little something in store later :-)

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win7fanboi

Thank you sir! I hope MPC continues reminding people 'cause people have short memory and legislators/lobbyists count on it. I also would be very interested in hearing Quinn Norton's thoughts/blog on this topic as well. I love her column in MPC mag.

You also might want to read the cleverly worded sarcasm on http://thedailywtf.com/ and add them to the list of websites supporting the blackout.

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DoctorX

i did my part... did you? contact your congressman and get the message out to stop SOPA AND PIPA

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Kinetic

Same here. Already signed some petitions too.

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win7fanboi

That and sign the petition here :
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#%21/petition/stop-e-parasite-act/SWBYXX55

and :
https://eff.org/r.C8A

Please support organizations like EFF.

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DoctorX

already did

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