RAW Editor Showdown: 5 Apps Put to the Test

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cokakoehler

In the article "Some Like It Raw" there are some obvious innaccracies. Some have been mentioned here like the ISO adn Shutter Speed being editable in a Raw file - which of course they are not. A RAW file does have many advantages over a JPEG or other image in that it is the straight Capture from the sensor before going through the processor. Many of the tasks that the processor does can be controlled via the RAW Software being used. Almost all of these things are done better in the onboard processor of the camera, so the idea is to get as good of an exposure as possible from pure camera settings.

The biggest advantage to a Raw file is the Dynamic Range. Once an image is stored in 8-bit format as a jpeg there is little information left to manipulate and the result of too much correction will be banding and artifacts like noise. With a Raw file there is a lot more data in all tonal areas so they can be manipulated greatly with no loss of detail or introduction of artifacts. Additionally these edits can be done in a non-destructive manner that allows the original sensor information to remain unchanged. That is why Adobe calls their RAW Format DNG (Digital Negative) meaning that it is the information that was captured by the camera. If done correctly a single RAW Capture can create effects that are similar to or better than HDR.

The main reason that I am writing is to point out that there was another error in reffering to the capability of the Nikon Capture NX Software. The article stated that Noise Reduction could not be perfprmed in both the Luminance and Chromaticity separately. This is wrong. In each manipulation available on the Nikon Software there is an Opacity Selection. When this is checked it opens another dialog that lets the user apply the adjustment in many different methods. In addition to the different applications it also lets the user apply the modifications to either the Luminance or Chromaticity separately or any combination of both if desired.

I use Capture NX 2 almost exclusiovely and only go to Photoshop for cloning and other non-photographic applications.

Just my two cents.

 

Coka K

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therathman

Yes, Bibble, Lightroom etc... are workflow management tools, but do offer some excellent editing capabilities.  Used in conjunction with other editing tools they do help to round out the toolbox.  I am surprised the article does not include Phase One - Capture 1 - the 800 lb gorilla in this arena.  I have used Capture NX2, Phase One Capture 1 Pro, and am currently experimenting with Lightroom.  The article brings some good points forward on the products.  But the article, I think sell all these products short and really does not capture their real strengths and weaknesses.  So far, I have found them all very poor on reducing digital noise...  But the omitting of Phase One is unforgiveable!  I could comment further, but point made.

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Travis Penner

I just have to say the picture with that red stuff swirling around a camera... Salmon is it?  Is SO disgusting it makes me nauseous just looking at it.  Really - do I have to look at crap like that MaxPC?  I couldn't even read the article in my magazine because of that bloody picture.  Ugh.  GROSS!

Travis

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Scarterous

Lightroom 2 is NOT an editor, it is a workflow management tool.  Yes, it has some editing capabilities, but it's bread and butter reason d'être is workflow management.

Love how MaximumPC assigns review of a photography-based article to someone who isn't a PRO photographer. 

Your articles are sometimes useful, but you are mostly about flattery-based reviews of products sent to you by your advertisors.  Very, very lame.

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dracx619

id like to respond to this post, but max pc keeps markin it as spam, and no i wan't going to insult you or be a troll. so i guess all i can say is. HI!!

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loyd

Mea culpa to everyone who caught that shutter speed comment in my article. What I was trying to get at -- and didn't explain it well at all -- was how editing raw gave you control over the pure sensor data. I should have just gone into a brief description of how light is captured, what the histogram means, and avoid excessive, unclear expostion to try to make a point. My bad.

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dracx619

you human, s!&@ happens

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markoo2

That review should never have been released, isnt there any peer review of facts. Iso is changed in camera, Not in editing, it is a camera function affecting photo quality, speed and DOF. White balance can be adjusted in most editors in Jpeg, and in camera. Raw for most is a waste of time editing, and a memory hog as many cameras are already so advanced in photo parameter control the Jpegs actualy surpass Raw for some top cameras for simple shooting. The review gets 0 stars, its not a review of actual program functions or facts. My 8 yr old can do better.  

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dracx619

i had a nice detailed explanation but max pc keeps flaggin it as spam so ill summarize. jpeg stores color in 8 bit, raw in 16 bit. you have more control over color with raw so you can have better iamges with raw in the end. jpeg is only good for point and shooters, raw is for pros and enthusiasts that demand full control. if you want to know more, google is a click away

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Jono

cmon now lets not get carried away. Unless the camera writes multiple variations of shutter speed into the data file which I doubt, this would only be an effect or simulation of shutter speed, simply blurring or sharpening a photo. Seems like a bunch of gimmicks to me. The only legit adjustments you could do on a RAW file without loosing data are color correction/white balance and attempting to pull slightly more detail from extremes.

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kbennett21

Bibble works great for me.

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rhowington

No mention of Corel's Paint Shop Pro?  It is better than any of these except Canon's Photo Pro.  I use Photoshop for a lot of things but, it sucks at handling RAW.

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ErikTheGreat

I am a Lightroom nut now that I have put some time in to learn the workflow. I recently added Picasa 3.6 to my tool bag as it recognizes my RAW files and backs them up to the web. I do local backups too but it is really nice to have access to my entire RAW photo collection anywhere I go. I got a free Eye-Fi card for bumping my account to 200GB and couldn't be happier.

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onotron

I stopped reading when you said that you can change ISO and shutter speed in RAW. 

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Mark17

Same here.

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dracx619

been using lightroom the past couple of years and it absolutely rules. hardly ever use photoshop unless im doin something crazy btu ever since i switched to lightroom, i get the basics done way faster.

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Velox

+1

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Saigua

I keep thinking of the Reuters cameramen in Iraq who got 30mm Apache fire up in their grill carrying their Canon gear with light guarding slung low; surely higher carries get less dust, and with enough salmon, nobody mis-calls your kit as munitions.  Ah, what do I know about salmon microfiber in town. 

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