Nvidia's GTX 480: First Fermi Benchmarks!

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I own a 5870 in my personal computer and love it. I haven't had an overheating issues with it at all, and I monitor my temperatures pretty close. I do agree though- it's definitely a power hog. I look forward to the next line coming out from ATI, because I usually try to upgrade my video card every year or two.

 

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RiverLucky

I still cannot figure out why Crysis is such a resource hog?

Has the game engine not been optmized?

I guess we will have to wait another 2 years to run it on max settings...

 

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Ok not to sound like a fanboy I bought Nvidia untill it went past the 9xxx series. I now roll ATI as for the drivers they are so much better in Win7.

 

OK now to my point. Take a stock 5870, $390 and a stock GTX 480, $500 

 

5870 saves you $110 but looses an average of 7-13 frames per second.

5870 also saves energy

 

5870 is the win and here is why

 

one it does not run hot like the 480 so where you will fry you 480 OCing it the 5870 will not.

So OC the 5870 enough to make up for that 7 fps

 

OC 5870 = save $110, Save energy, Same FPS as 480, Less Heat

OC GTX 480 = RMA a burnt card. 

 

HD 5870 FTW! 

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DBsantos77

 I agree with your points. However to justify the cost of Fermi you have to think about the CUDA architecture, as well as the other "new" things nvidia brought to the table, such as 32x aa. 

-Santos

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Nickompoop

Game playability depends on two variables: detail, and frame rate.  MaxPC already cranks the detail up all the way in their benchmarks, so if you can make up those lost frame rates, the Fermi just ain't worth the money or heat.

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Zazubovich

Just kidding.  Still have a voodoo I and voodoo III stashed away, though, jic. 

How is Nvidia going to catch up to ATI if it is out of cycle with ATI's development schedule?  Will ATI rest on its laurels like Nvidia did and blow it again?

I might buy one of these cards just because it gets cold in Alaska and the free heat might warm up the office when the matanuska winds blow.

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blobro

Sorry, repost

 

 

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blobro

 

Brace Yourselves, this is gonna be long.

Because everyone was having this debate about which is better, i decided to end this once and for all with some mathematics. I calculated the difference in performance for each game form the 480 and the 5870, and then compared them to the difference in price. I only focused on games, and not 3dmark vantage, becuase that was what really matters. So, here are the (possibly mistaken) results:

So, the cheapest price on newegg i found for the 480 was $499.99 and $394.99 for the 5870. So i calculated that the fermi was about 19.2% more than the 5870, so that was what the improvement have to be for eafch game in a fermi vs. 5870 matchup.

Games:

Battle Forge: improvement from 5870 to 480:27.6%. Worth it? Yes.

Stalker: 8.3%. Worth it? No.

Dirt 2: 20.8%. Barely Worth it

Far Cry 2 (Long): 34.2%. Yes

Far Cry 2 (Action): 19.0%. Barely Not

Tom Clancy's Hawx: 19.3%. Baarely Worth it

Dawn of War 2: -4%. Not at all worth it

Crysis: -3%. Not worth it at all

 So the average difference from 480 vs. 5870 is 15.3%, which is less that the 19.2% increase in price, so the 5870 is a bettweer bang for your buck, and the 5970 still beats it. Also, it has a much higher power draw than the RAdeon, 165W Idle vs. 27W and 399W full load vs. 293. Also, the 5000 series has eyefinity, so you can hook up three monitors to a single card, which the 400 series can't ,while they do have 3d and physics.

So, it depends on the games you play, but overall, the 480 isn't a better deal than the 5870, but it does fill a particular price-point that ATI doesn't fill.  

 

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RiverLucky

This card is too rich for my blood.

 Price Vs Performance does not justify it for me.

 I just built my gaming PC for $1250.

 

 

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siramic

It might've  been long, but it was worth it, good job blobro  :-)

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DBsantos77

 Holy crap, someone else that sees through the marketing tactics and actually looks at the numbers. 

Kudos.

-Santos

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devin3627

 (newegg review on a 120hz viewsonic monitor!!!!) (pc gaming will be admired when they start selling 120hz computer monitors.)

 

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Neufeldt2002

How does this relate to the topic at hand? This clearly falls into spamming the board. If this is to get MPC to review said monitor, there are other channels that are more appropriate.

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burpnrun

They should be listed under "furnace suppliers", "all-time product failures", or "clowns".

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RAMBO

IT SMOKES YOUR WALLET AND PC WITH COLD BENCHMARKS, WE ALL WAITED FOR THIS!

NVIDIA YOU HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE, GET RID OF OF YOUR HOT HEAD CEO AND START CRANKING OUT

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Caboose

Contrary to popular belief, Caps lock is NOT cruise control for cool. It just makes you look like an idiot.

 

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Keith E. Whisman

Well people that use the caps lock are usually trying to get people to understand that they are upset and are yelling like this... SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I agree with the posters use of all capitals but only on articles like this where it's kinda expected to piss off fanboys and I'm an Nvidia fan boy and it hurts me to have to buy an ATI card but I have to do what I gotta do.

SO IF YOUR UPSET AND FEEL THE NEED TO THEN YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND GO ALL CAPS. Believe me your among kindred spirits that feel your anger. 

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Nipyf2

Now the question is whether newegg will ever have these in stock...

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Caboose

Oops wrong post...

 

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Shckr57

for now i really dont mind, even tho i would like dx11. just wait till they fix the heat issue, get all cores working( not with 1 disabled) and get better drivers designed just for this chip. it will take the most likely 2 months after release, and alot of these problems will be dimmed down and soon fixed. even tho ati has the lead, i still cant stand there drivers, they have gotten better, but still not good enough for me. also, you cant compare a single gpu to a duel card one, unless you compare 2 480s vs ati top end card. well you can, but id call it cheating.

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GaMEChld

Comparing the 480 to the Dual GPU 5970 is a valid comparison to make for an interesting reason. Normally, we would argue that a dual GPU card should only be compared with the competition's dual GPU card. However, Fermi cannot be released as a dual GPU card as it currently stands. The reason for this is because the single GPU Fermi is already at the TDP limits of the PCI-E Standard. Releasing a dual GPU version would easily push the card over this standardized limitation, stripping the card of its PCI-E compliance, and thus be unsupported by any OEMs.

ATI should not be punished for having GPU's that have sane levels of TDP. If Nvidia had engineered a better product, they too would have a dual GPU solution offered, but they did not, so that's on them. The 5970 is a video card that fits in a single PCI-E slot and offers more power than the 480 which also fits in a single PCI-E slot. That's all. How it accomplishes that is irrelevant. 

However, it should be noted that if you are indeed comparing with a 5970, one must note that the 5970 is a more expensive card.

Ultimately though, Quadfire with two 5970's, would be cheaper than QuadSLI with 4 480's. All of these price points need to be considered. 

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DBsantos77

 Or you can go for a Dual-GPU card that fits in one slot as well. That's what I would do, multi-card setups are costly, and run hot unless your under liquid.

-Santos

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Shckr57

i have 2 cards in quad sli, and ill never do it again, i want a single powerful gpu. i hate haveing to wait 2 weeks after a game launches to get support for sli. and in the end it rly not worth it.

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aluCard1462

Wouldn't quad sli be four cards? Oh, and BTW I while I agree that it's a waste, it's good there is the option for multiple display setups.

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