Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan – The Benchmarks

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Ninjawithagun

I too have three EVGA GTX680 FTW+ 4GB cards in 3-way SLI and agree that they perform very well whether I'm running 3 x 24" 120Hz monitors at 6000 x 1080 (2 x 120 for bezel correction), or running a single 2560 x 1440 120Hz monitor (Overlord Tempest) the GTX680s do not disappoint in performance. Based upon the fact that only one game, Metro 2033, gains from any kind of performance improvement due to the GK110 GPU in the Titans, it's just not worth the upgrade. I really do hope Nvidia has something better up their sleeve come later this year. The Titan definitely feels like a gap filler and nothing more. Definitely not revolutionary, but definitely wallet-thinning to be sure :)

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nickdanger013

what's up with the fire strike results? are these the graphics scores only or the total score? i have a sytem with an i7-3770 @4.2ghz, 8GB DDR3 @2000mhz and i pull between 6000 and 6100 with my gtx 670, and i pull over 7000 with my reference 7970, over 10000 when running crossfire. why is your score for 7970 so low??? i've seen 7970 pull number that low when you have a driver problem, like switching from Nvidia to AMD without using driver sweeper, but that is not looking like a correct result there.

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nickdanger013

*correction 6644 for single 7970

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/131824

crossfired 7970:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/256803

Galaxy GC GTX 670:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/91620

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Fyrwulf

So let's get this right, rather than buy a 7970 Ghz from another manufacturer or even asking them to send you one, you asked Asus to send you a neutered 7970? You also didn't flash the non-Ghz with the Ghz BIOS, which is an AMD-sourced way to turn a non-Ghz card into a Ghz card.

There's a serious integrity fail here in that your WORDS made it sound like a podium sweep for the Green camp, yet from actually looking at the benchmarks I see the 680 about even with the non-Ghz 7970, which basically means that a Ghz 7970 would consistently beat the 680. Also, the driver excuse is really weak, since most every Radeon user happily installs the newest beta drivers and rolls back if there's a problem.

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joshnorem

Hey Frywulf - we had a 7970 TOP from Asus that worked fine for most of the testing but then started to freak out the day before deadline. We also had to test the SLI setups and all of the other cards and there was simply no time for us to swap the card out and start all over. We've also neve been able to get two GHz cards from AMD and we've asked, believe me. We asked again today. I'll let you know if we ever see that dream fulfilled. 

Why would we have a problem publishing benchmarks showing the HD 7970 being faster than the GTX 680? The last time we compared to two we stated that the HD 7970 had the advantage, at least in terms of frame rates. We know the cards are eye-to-eye for the most part. 

Regarding the drivers we're considering changing our policy but the "no beta" rule has been in effect for at least as long as this magazine has been around. We are considering changing it though because it is a major bummer to not be able to run dual GPUs on newer games and we hate having situations like this. 

Thanks for your feedback on all of this. I appreciate it. 

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nickdanger013

i would like to see the no beta rule go away. i saw a significant bump in performance on my 7970's running catalyst 13.2 beta. maybe not go away, but include a section with an asterisk where you compare Nvidia's beta and non-beta drivers to AMD's beta and non-beta drivers.

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joshnorem

We discussed it today and I think you're right. We're going to do away with it and just say what driver we used. 

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kixofmyg0t

Maximum PC is heavily biased towards nVidia. Remember the laughable AMD build they put together a few months ago? It wasn't a attempt to please any AMD fans. They put the AMD build against clearly more expensive(way WAY more expensive and in turn faster) hardware just to get the numbers to look as bad as possible.

I'm a bit late reading this because when I saw it I figured MaximumPC would skew the numbers to make the Titan blow everything else out of the water. Only after seeing benchmarks on other sites did I come back here and actually read their results.

When the Matla based 7990 drops, if MaximumPC even bothers to mention it you can bet they'll throw it into a 4 core Bulldozer (or i3) rig to test against Zero point.

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joshnorem

Hi Kixofmyg0t - testing the AMD system against the Zero point sparked a debate in our office because it was too lopsided, I agree. We certainly didn't build the system just to trash it in the end. We are not invested in the results of these tests and get no money from either manufactur, nor do we get any special treatment from Nvidia either. We are looking for a better way to compare systems that we've built and it will not involve the zero point because you are right, it's not always a fair comparison. 

And if you think we skewed the results to make AMD look bad I don't know what to say to that. However, we will be doing some more testing so be sure to watch for an update shortly that will include the Ares II :)

 

josh

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JCCIII

NVidia has not finished working on the GTX Titan; it’s just in a new phase, the con’sumer phase, and what a scam it is at $1000. It is bested by the GTX 690 in every test; ‘as the benchmark chart clearly shows, the GTX 690 is still faster in every test (MPC),’ and ‘Two GTX 680s in SLI still beat out two GTX Titans in SLI in several tests including Batman, Crysis 3, and Heaven 4.0 (MPC).’

This is relevant because whenever NVidia’s people release their single-fastest GPU solution, it is lesser than their previous fastest GPU in SLI and dual GPU card, here two GTX 680s or one GTX 690. Just understand, with their GTX Titan, the company’s people continue to push for new higher prices, passing the $500-$600 mark, really—to $1000—with hype and artificial shortages to create false demand, working the market with their greed.

An example of the way NVidia operates, the GTX 480 was more than $500 at the time when I bought three. After that, I discovered all GTX 480s were so lame that they were disabled at the factory; but, a few months later the GTX 580 arrived, and it was a real Fermi. NVidia’s people tricked me with their GTX 480.

Do not let NVidia rip you off as I have let them do it to me. I trusted them. NVidia’s people will scam you if you are ill-advised, and they will make it sound fun.

Sincerely,
Joseph C. Carbone III; 23 February 2013

MPC @ http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/nvidia_geforce_titan_%E2%80%93_benchmarks2013

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aferrara50

you're obviously not the target market for the card. The titans are gold when it comes to tri or quad sli. I sold my 690s and picked up 4 EVGA Titan SCs b/c the 690s didn't have the vram I needed for a 7680x1440 resolution. The vram limitation was so great max payne 3 couldn't even run 8xmsaa. Considering that they're the fastest single gpu card ever made the price isn't that bad.

It performs ~20% less than a 690, but it only single gpu, allowing for you to run 3 or 4 of them, the reason the card is so great.

TBH there's no reason to have 1 of them. 2 is understandable if you're running surround and want to crank up MSAA, but other than that 3 or 4 are the sweet spot.

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Baer

Really a great review and useful data, thank you.
I am specking out a new high end rig and I have been back and forth between the 690 or a pair of 680's.
I run three 1920 X 1200 (5760 X 1200) in surround, not only for gaming but also for productivity programs. In reading this it looks so far that a pair of 680's may be my best bet. (I welcome comments on this)
I am looking forward to the updated report after the additional testing is done.

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Renegade Knight

I'd like to see a triple monitor set up review. I was sold on the GTX680 as my next upgrade but checked it's performance against the 690 and learned that with a 35fps goal on the GPU intensive games it was going to have to be the 690. If this could pull it off I can save a little on the power bill (though not yet the wallet).

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acidic

guru3d.com

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ripple

Thanks for the review, nice job on this one. According to your results, I should be buying the GTX 690 but I am leaning toward the new technology in the GTX Titan. I just hope that I can get my hands on one when it is available!

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vistageek

Something is wrong here. The Titan SLI should beat the 680 SLI without any trouble. A single titan should lose to a gtx 690 by %15ish.

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joshnorem

These benchmarks were completed in time for the NDA to lift but we had to cram all night to get them finished. There were some anomolies though as you pointed out, and we will investigate. In the end we felt confident enough to publish them as they were straight from our test machine but further testing is needed. We also need to try tri-sli and some other tests as well. 

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John Pombrio

The rumors pretty much nailed the specs beforehand so really no surprises (good job guys!). Its just that the card is too expensive for the benchmarks it kicks out. When it get to $800, I will buy it...

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jstein076

I'll keep my GTX 680 ftw+ 4gb in tri-sli. They were way cheaper and seems like they will have the same if not better performance.

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ugzz

with the 6GB of ram on the Titan and the 2GB (usable) by the 690 you guys *need* to test a triple head setup. Even at 2560x1600 with just over 4 million pixels your not really pushing the limits of the memory, but with the 690s 2gb i wouldn't be surprised if you saw some very interesting numbers at say 5760x1080, adding another 1.5 million pixels. Or.. dare i say it.. 7680x1600, for a whopping 12+ million pixels. (or the easier to come by 7680x1440)

Honestly i'm super surprised i'm not seeing more of these benches now that Nvidia and AMD both support it natively with 1 card now.

Bundle that with falling monitor prices and the availability of 2560x1440 korean monitors in the 300-400 range.

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joshnorem

We're trying to get a tri-sli setup initiated. Stay tuned.

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acidic

tri-sli is very cpu bottlenecked. even on a 3960 @ 4.6

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Silverbullet

Great review, although a bit of a let down from Nvidia. This card only makes sense if you were looking for pure compute HP and NOT for gaming. If gaming, stick with the proven cards already out there for less than half the price. Would have been nice to find out how she overclocks...early reports are that the core can be cranked (1150+) which should make a pretty significant difference. Still not enough to justify the price if you're only looking for a gaming GPU, IMO.

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acidic

guru3d.com has a nice article with 3 way SLI and 3 monitor setups. hilbert got his up to 1176 in the oc guide

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HiGHRoLLeR038

nice, thanks guys! So i only need to drop 2 grand on gfx cards to play Crysis 3 on max? yikes...

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iplayoneasy

You want the fastest, low temp, overclockable single card? You buy and Asus Ares II

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trajan2448

Until the runt frame problem in Crossfire is addressed Crossfire is effectively useless. The fps numbers are highly inflated with slivers of frames which are unviewable. This has been reported in Tech Report, PC Perspective and Hardocp. This has sparked many investigations into FRAPS, latencies, and how to ACCURATELY judge performance. Buyer beware.

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Airheadq

How about compute performance metrics? That's the other side of the coin to Titan.

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Peanut Fox

This is what I'm looking forward to seeing. Some Blender render tests with Cycles please! As it stands the 3GB 580 is still the card to beat.

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AFDozerman

Pretty sure 7970 beats 580 in compute.

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Peanut Fox

Not in Cycles render times. They're worlds apart. OpenGL just doesn't do it in that space.

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AFDozerman

Just reading online, it looks like OpenCL is only supported on Nvidia cards for some reason. So actually, we were both wrong. You are actually comparing GPU compute to CPU instead of Nvidia to AMD. I knew something was fishy about a card from 2009 beating a few month old card, especially when AMD has been touting OpenCL compute for years...

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joshnorem

We have a lot more testing to do so stay tuned.

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Airheadq

Much appreciated!

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