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Boxee for Windows

Boxee brings web video playback and social networking to a TV-connected PC. Awesome!

According to their company blog, the Windows alpha of Boxee (free, www.boxee.tv) should be public sometime in June (it's been in an Alpha testing period for several months). Boxee is a variant of XBMC—the media streaming and playback software originally designed for the Xbox 1 that now runs on all major platforms—designed with social networking in mind. In addition to many of the streaming and media management features that XBMC has, Boxee includes a friends list and the ability to pull web video from sites like CBS.com, Netflix.com, and CNN.com into the app’s sexy 10-foot interface, which makes it easy to browse with a remote control.In its current alpha state, Boxee can be a touch unstable; however, it’s so powerful and awesome that we’re willing to tolerate an occasional crash to use it.

But first you’ll need to install Windows. We’ve tested the Boxee Alpha with XP, Vista, and Windows 7 Beta 1. Boxee works great with XP and Vista (including 64-bit Vista) but has problems with Win7 due to the nascent OS’s poor OpenGL support. That may change by the time you read this, but for the time being, we don’t recommend Win7 for Boxee users.

After you’ve installed Windows, updated the OS, installed the Nvidia chipset drivers and AMD CPU drivers, changed your display settings to the native resolution for your monitor, and installed the Realtek drivers to enable sound, you should install Boxee. The installer is very straightforward, but there’s quite a bit you can do to optimize your experience after the initial install.

Once Boxee is installed, you’ll want to point it to your network shares. The easiest way to do that is to map a network drive, but you can also use Boxee’s built-in Samba client, as shown here.

First, you’ll want to calibrate Boxee’s video displays. From the home screen, go left and navigate down to Settings. Go to Appearance, then Screen. Make sure the resolution is set to your TV’s native resolution (1920x1080 for a 1080p set, 1280x720 for a 720p set), then click the Video Calibration option. This will walk you through a series of configuration options that will ensure your video is displayed at the proper aspect ratio for your set.

If you have media stored on your machine or network, you can add that content to the Boxee interface as well. In the Settings menu, go to Media Sources. While you can have Boxee connect directly to an SMB share, we recommend mapping a network drive in Windows, then accessing the media through that, as it seems more reliable. Drill down the menus in the Media Sources share and add your content. Boxee will begin indexing it and add it to your machine’s library.

And then there’s Hulu. Boxee was forced to pull Hulu from its service in February, and various workarounds have popped up since then to get Hulu streams working on Boxee. The latest update brings Hulu back to Boxee through enhanced RSS feeds, and the release of Hulu Desktop has given Boxee's creators hope that Hulu will come back to the program for good. For now, we still recommend watching your Hulu shows with Hulu's own desktop application. 

OS Alternative: What about Ubuntu?

We tested Boxee with Ubuntu as well and were pleasantly surprised. We had a bit of trouble getting audio configured properly on the Linux OS, but once that hurdle was passed, we had Boxee up and running in no time. The only caveat is that some online sources don’t work with the Linux edition of Boxee, so check our handy chart below to see what does and does not work.

A Boxee Tour

Boxee’s 10-foot interface is simple to understand, once you know the basic rules

  • We love that Boxee includes the ability to play content direct from websites—support for individual sites varies by platform, but there’s a ton of great content available already, and more being added all the time.
  • Although you can use a mouse with Boxee, the app is designed for navigation with a remote control. To navigate to the main system menu, where you can adjust settings or browse to any of the content accessible to the machine, just browse to the left side of any screen.
  • Boxee, like XBMC, will pull down the relevant metadata for your TV shows and movies from the Internet so that you can browse your videos by genre, actor, director, and more.
  • Want to view video that’s not supported by one of the default services? Does the site have an RSS feed? If so, plug it into My Feeds, and odds are you’ll be watching streamed video in no time.
  • If you navigate beyond the right side of the screen, you’ll find Boxee’s context-sensitive menus (not pictured), where you can adjust things like view options and thumbnail size.
  • If you ever find yourself losing touch with the real world, Boxee will even keep you updated on the current time and local weather. Now that’s convenience!

 

XBMC: An Entertainment Alternative

If you’re not as interested in streaming web video, XBMC delivers a kick-ass network streaming experience

While XBMC lacks the nifty web-based video playback and friends list that Boxee offers, it has a much more advanced streaming platform, especially if you have a large video library. It also offers support for a few streaming sites using plugins, but support for sites like Hulu is nowhere near as polished as it is was in Boxee. If you’re not looking to cut your cable, then XBMC is probably a superior choice for in-home streaming.

‌After you install the app (free, www.xbmc.org), you’ll need to configure your video settings using a procedure that’s very similar to Boxee’s. Simply go to Settings, then Appearance, then Screen, and run through the screen calibration process. Once that’s done, you should hit the audio settings and make sure the proper output is configured. The last thing you should do in your options menu is tell XBMC where your media is stored. As with Boxee, XBMC works better with network sources if you map your network path to a drive letter, then point XBMC to that drive rather than just using the integrated SMB client. You can also add RSS feeds for podcasts or pictures, or UPNP shares if you already have a streaming server set up on your network.

Once you have everything configured, XBMC will scan your content and download metadata associated with your videos. It can take a couple of hours if you have a large collection, but once it’s done, you can enable Library mode (using the default skin, it’s a left-column option in the Music and Video views). Library mode lets you browse your movie collection by genre, director, actor, year, or a number of other options. Library mode also works for your music collection and lets you browse by the contents of your ID3 tags. It’s very handy if you have a lot of movies and music.

Once you’ve got your media configured, you can also add other streaming sources for sites like Hulu. There are tons of plugins available, and the best place for streaming info is at the XBMC forums. Enjoy!

  • When XBMC misidentifies a file, you can manually change it using the context menu. Don’t fret, though; in our 600-plus file collection, it managed to detect more than 90 percent of the files correctly.
  • When you mouse over a file, you’ll see a small pop-up containing more info about the file. Click it, and you’ll see more-detailed info, including release date, actors involved, director, and a basic plot summary.
  • Library mode is awesome; it lets you browse your movies and TV shows based on metadata, rather than title alone. Best of all, the app automatically downloads art for your films and TV shows!
  • The only trick to automatic metadata collection is that you store different types of content in different folders. When you add a new folder, you can tell XBMC what type of content it contains (TV show, movie, music, photo, etc.), so it’s important that you connect the correct data sources to the correct types of content.
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avatarSuch great detail ...but left out "buy and install Windows"

Close the cover,

 

Boot up,

 

Install Hulu desktop.

 

Aren't we missing something?

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avatarStreaming thru xbox 360

I stream thru my 360 with windows media center and am very happy with my set up, however i would like to be able to stream from network websites like abc cbs bbc etc. any idea how i can do that?

L. Future

 

So Say We All!

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avatarThis is something I've been wanting to do

I hooked up an old computer to my 52 inch LCD and it's fine for watching DVDs and DVD-rips but it chokes on anything that uses flash video or h.264 because it's only a P4 1.7.

I upgraded the video card to a GeForce 6200 (mainly so I could get HDMI output) but that doesn't seem to help.  I tried using CoreAVC but the system still wasn't fast enough for h.264, so, fail.

OTOH I can record cable TV on it using a TV tuner card but it's 640x480 analog, standard def.

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avatarusing DishNetwork etc

can I use these instructions for Dishnetwork as well?  this is over satellite and a DSL connection.  If not how would I proceed?  I want to get away from Dish Networks DVR stuff.  I'm also somewhat technology illitterate, so please be specific.

 

thanks much

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avatarI've been a MPC subscriber

I've been a MPC subscriber since Boot and one thing has been consistent... they are always showing how people with a lot of money can have the collest toys.

Come on guys, it sure would show more balls and less BS to show what a low cost solution would be for this kind of thing. I'm running XBMC on my XBOXen and it works just great. Can't stream hulu (the pluging has never worked for me), but so what? That's what bit torrent is for. It can't handly HD, but then I'd be downloading/ripping files that are too significantly larger to keep a collection (until xbox360s become cheap second hand ;) ).

Nice article,  as always, but really. :)

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avatar Running the OS on a CompactFlash card or a USB thumb drive

 You guys said you could run the OS from a CompactFlash card or a USB thumb drive. How do you do this?

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avatarIn case you haven't noticed

In case you haven't noticed, there is no boxee capability on windows. This means that unless you dual-boot, the only system you can run this on is shutter OS X!!! 

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avatarRE: In case you haven't noticed

Have you taken a look at page 4? It specifically mentions the Boxee Alpha for Windows, granted that's not the ideal solution, there is Boxee capability on Windows.

 

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avatarSounds like a good build

Sounds like a good build but why didnt they consider the new ion boards from zotac. They have just enough power for HD video and work well enough for Hulu and the best part is... there PASSIVE which makes it well suitable as an HTPC mobo. Also they have pcie 1x slots allow 3rd party sounds cards such as the X-Fi Forte and in the near future The X-Fi home theater HD which would make it perfect for Extensive blue ray playback (DD Truehd, DTS HD, etc) and essentially make it the ultimate HTPC. Now if only there was a slimline blue-ray rom drive to fit in that fabulous case.

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avatarNice article, if you are

Nice article, if you are building a HTPC ... or you can send a big phat fiber to where hulu don't offer services ;)

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avatarinstall OS ?

I am assuming that you have to install an OS on this build and have the system connected to a broadband cable.  No mention of installing the OS in the article.  Also the cost of the build did not mention an OS.

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avatarThat works, but there's

That works, but there's something to be said for having a dedicated system to handle your home theater needs.  Call me crazy, but sometimes (read: all the time) I like to surf the web while I'm watching tv.  I could pause the show and use the computer hooked to the tv, or I could walk across the room and use my gaming rig.  I find the most convenient thing is to just have my laptop on the couch with me so I can watch the show and surf at the same time.

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avatarAgreed - usually my GF's

Agreed - usually my GF's laptop is sitting on the coffee table if we're watching Hulu on the tv - and (when she's actually home) she's not a multitasker, so I use hers :)

 

 

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avataryea I think a laptop may be

yea I think a laptop may be cheaper, of course if you kept an eye on NewEgg you could probably cut the cost on this one down.

 Then install Veoh Player and Miro so that you can get some channels or using hulu to watch shows online.

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avatarWhy not use Laptop with Dock

Why not use Laptop with Dock station?

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avatarstill no boxee

for us windows slobs who didn't get in on the private alpha!

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avatarAll I watch is cable

If channels like The Science Chanel, History Channel, National Geographic, Spike, Discovery Channel and NFL Network offered online programming I would do this in a heartbeat. Besides sporting events I only watch one network TV show: 24.

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avatarAmen Brother

Leave it to Comcrap to charge an additional $45 bucks for the Science Channel, History International, and Nfl Network. Funny those are exactly the same channels I watch. I on the other hand am partial to Heroes for my network show

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avatarYeah, typical Comcast

Yeah, typical Comcast bullshit. We almost lost NFL Network completely, but thanks to their "positive negotiations" it's still available...for more money, of course.

Always wanted to check out Heroes, but it's on during Monday Night Football. Which I'm not missing.

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avatarAlternative to Boxee & HULU player

Has nobody heard of the awesome ZINC program from ZeeVee.com? It is in Beta3 & I think it works pretty well compared to the Boxee Alph for Windows. I have it running on my Win7 RC machine right now & it pretty cool. Especially since it lets you add your favorite networks & shows newly added shows in the "New"section for you to watch automatically. Give it a try!

Craig

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avatar@ craig thanks

I've been looking for boxee alternatives for a while now and never stumbled across this.  Thanks man!

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avatarZinc

You're welcome. Zinc also allows you to add apps to its Apps menu. So I've added Windows media center, itunes, Boxee, & the new HULU Desktop player to my list of Apps to open from the Zinc program as I have Zinc in my startup folder of my Media Center PC. Pretty sweet setup if you ask me.

 

Craig

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avatarWakeup for TV recording

Just a heads up, but you don't need to leave your media center on 24/7 to record TV programs with a TV tuner card. PVRs like MythTV allow you to set up automatic wake and shutdown for your scheduled recordings.

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avatarYeah

That comment also thru me for a loop.  My HTPC with Media Center wakes up and sleeps all day long recording over the air HD shows which look 400% better then any HULU shows.

So a TV Tuner card is an absolute must!!!

 

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avatarAMD CPU No Longer Sold?

The AMD Phenom X4 9350e isn't listed anywhere on Newegg.... Did AMD stop producting of this CPU already?  If so what NEW CPU does Maximum PC recommend?

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avatarI just bought the 9350e from

I just bought the 9350e from Newegg 2 weeks ago.

 

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avatarI've always wanted...

I have always wanted a laptop connected to a TV (keeps things clean) running ether mithubuntu or a version of windows with media center (not media player) and klite codec pack with another computer on the network to actually hold all the movies I have and keep from having to hear noise... yes I know the "maxpc" way is probibly better but can anyone else tell me what they think?

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avatarNice job

This is pretty sweet and would do it, if I already did not have a ps3 in the tv room. I can play hulu right from the ps3 browser, stream torrented movies from tvversity, and play netflix through playon, which is all ok, it works, but is not pretty. This looks kick ass. Never had cable, never will, as long as people keep seeding dexter.

 

Is Hulu desktop a response to boxee or the reason they were breaking it? 

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avatarLet me be the first to say

This is totally awesome! If I were the one paying for cable in my home, I'd seriously consider this!

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avatarI love this!

I simply love this idea.  However, I don't care about the size of the case.  The sound I may care about, but really guys, to me (the hardcore hardware guy) I don't care how big it is.  Is it possible that you guys do a write up on something that has a normal case?  I am thinking of something that is a NAS/Media Player blend that is hooked up to the T.V.  It will be on almost 24/7 and will have a large contingent of hard drives for all of that media I have. 

 I don't mind having a full tower.  I want it to be able to handle all of the video options you guys have here, as well as the sound options.  Could you possibly create a guide for this? 

 FYI, I really appreciate the $500 dollar gaming PC (that plays Crysis).  Using spare parts and some of the parts you guys recommended, my friends and I successfully created a gaming rig for our one broke friend.  He is in love.  Thanks again!

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avatarYou don't really need a

You don't really need a guide to do what you're looking for - just modify this guide to suit your needs.  For example:

 1.  Do you want a very energy efficient system or more power for games?  If you want efficiency, mirror this build's hardware, if you want power then just configure a standard desktop system.

 2.  How much storage do you want?  Will you use RAID 5?  If so, will you want a discrete or host-based adapter (discrete = fast but expensive; host-based = slow but super-cheap)?

 3.  Do you want a media super-box?  Add a tuner,an HD-DVD/BD drive and a solid sound card (Auzentech makes some media-centric sound cards, much better than Creative).  Prepare yourself for ffshow configuration if you want top-notch HD playback and upscaling.

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