Gaming Showdown: Playstation Vita vs iPhone 4S

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boodiespost

how did i know the answer to this even before reading this article ^_^

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alex_dh9

My PSP still beats an iPhone 4s...in my humble gaming opinion.

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BadCommand

#crankyposters

#someoneforgottheirfrostedflakes

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tinnerdxp

WTF? iPhone wins in hardware comparison?
Are you guys blind or plain stupid?
How could you claim iphone wins in hardware category if you just state that Vita has superior internals? And one section above say that iphone has a small screen and lack of any buttons to use in games? Clearly then Vita wins on hardware front just because it has better CPU, bigger screen, proper buttons and oh - by the way - it feels natural to play games on it?

Another silly article where you try to make apple product look good. It sucks - get over it. In fact any touch controlled device is pretty useless to play action games - you can get away with RPG, RTS and so on... but when it comes to playing something that DOES require quick and accurate controls - they simply suck...

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bling581

Yeah, they're not real clear on what they're comparing for hardware. They go on about the internals but finish up with saying how nice the iPhone looks with it's shiny exterior. So looking shiny is better than having better internal components?

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B.A.Frayd

And by "they" you mean Alex Castle.

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railpressureflip

What're you guys retarded?

It's comparing a gaming device with a general one. How does that even compare?

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Kinetic

I scrolled through the comments and someone else may have mentioned this, but I didn't see it.... Anyway, it seems like a huge factor was overlooked here: Price.
While the Vita Costs $250 for the basic model plus $30 for the 8gb memory card for a one time total of $280, the iPhone 4s costs $199 itself, plus a $36 activation fee, bringing the total up to $237. Then you factor in the cost of AT&T's bare-bones 450 minute and 300MB data plan and you're paying $60 a month -or $80 for unlimited data on sprint- for another two years. Which doesn't seem like much until you add it all up together...
ATT:
-Phone $199.99
-Activation fee $36
-Two year contract service $1440
-Total cost $1676
Sprint:
-Phone $199.99
-Activation fee $36
-Two year contract service $1920
-Total $2156
And that's before you send a single text message...
So there you go. Two grand to play Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja for two years. Sure, you can make phone calls, send messages, pull up maps, etc. on the iPhone, but if you're comparing it or any other smart phone as purely a gaming platform and nothing else, it loses. Miserably.

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Philippe Lemay

Not really a fair comparison. A better way of putting the two devices head-to-head would be to use an off-contract iPhone 4S. Which can be around 800$.

Your point still stands, but I don't think taking into account the monthly talk-text-data fees is really equivalent.

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Kinetic

Comparing it to an off-contract phone with no rate plan and by extension no voice/data isn't really fair to the phone either either, as it now essentially just becomes a very small tablet at a very inflated price.

In any case why isn't taking the rate/data plan into consideration as a purchase expense equivalent though? I'm not talking about some extravagant unlimited everything plan, or what it's going to cost to respond to text messages, or buying apps. I'm just referencing the bare minimum it is going to cost the typical consumer to walk into a store and say "I want an iPhone 4s to play games on" and sign the two year contract to own the phone, versus what it will cost them to say "I want a PS Vita and a memory card" and buy one.

Really the whole article is an unfair comparison, as our current smart phones are great for killing time in a waiting room, but when it comes to gaming they're crushed by dedicated gaming handhelds like the Vita. Whereas the Vita is useless to me when I hit a patch of ice and end up in the ditch at five in the morning.
Each product is designed to fill a specific roll, and while they may overlap a little in some areas, it isn't enough to justify a head-to-head comparison... You might as well do a "Photo Showdown" between the 4s and a Nikon D60.

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QuadraQ

In the end the only thing that's holding back the iPhone/iPod Touch and Android phones from completely replacing the handheld gaming devices is the lack of tactile controls. The latest iPhone/Android devices are more than powerful enough, have enough storage, have sufficient screen quality. The only thing lacking is real buttons.

Once a standard bluetooth driver for gamepads are added to iOS/Android and snap-on accessories are widely available, there will be no need for dedicated mobile gaming devices.

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bling581

I would strongly disagree. Even with good controls my iPhone 4S would still not come close to comparing to my DS for gaming quality. You know the saying "you get what you pay for"? Every $1 app I've downloaded provides a handful of hours of fun, but then it either gets boring or the game's finished already. The most enjoyable games I have cost more than $5, but they still don't compare to the games on a dedicated system. I own several dozen games for my iPhone, but only 4 DS games and those 4 games have provided dozens more hours of play value then all my iOS games combined.

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Slurpy

Which is why Nintendo needs to get off their ass and design a phone!

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bling581

Let's be honest, gaming on a mobile device versus a dedicated gaming device are two very different things. I read the categories and the winners were exactly what I would expect, because there's really no competition. An article highlighting the pros and cons of gaming on a phone versus a game device would've been more realistic. I've been gaming since I was young and owned many consoles and hand held devices so I can say with certainty that gaming on a phone is completely different. I own the iPhone 4S along with a Nintendo DS.

Of course the controls and software category would go to Vita. Gaming on a phone is craptastic. There's also no competition when it comes to selection. The "other features" category is so unrealistic because you're comparing a device that can do (hundreds?) of different things versus a device that's dedicated to one thing. Plus there's so many other features that I find necessary for a better gaming experience that can't be done on a phone.

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RaptorJohnson

And the winner is: PC!

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wrldqueeek

What I like is how everything I've read that talks about the iPhone (any of them) goes on about all the features it has (screen, apps, etc.) and then, at the end tacks on, Oh yeah, it's also a phone. Do people not make calls anymore? I'm quite happy with my Samsung Convoy II.

As for portable gaming devices, The Vita looks great. The only downside I see is the current trend of lopping off backwards compatibility. (IIRC, the Vita will not be compatible with the PSP mini-disc format, what are people supposed to do with those?)

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bling581

Calling people and texting is a small percentage of what I use my phone for. The main things I do with my "phone" is listening to music, gaming, and browsing the web. If it was the opposite then I'd go back to a regular phone. There's all the little things too that I normally don't use on a daily basis but have come in handy in many situations. I've used it a lot when traveling to find the nearest gas station or a specific fast food restaurant.

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UrbanSmooth

"In terms of overall build quality, the iPhone 4S is clearly superior. The Vita is a lovely device, don’t get us wrong, but it’s entirely plastic and just doesn’t feel as solid as the metal-and-glass iPhone."

Since when did the outside have to do with the inside (hardware)?

Round 3 = hardware, not material'ware.' Ha.

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kixofmyg0t

Oh you didn't know that the Motorola DROID 1 has better hardware than the Galaxy Nexus? Yep it "feels more solid", that means better hardware.

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UrbanSmooth

Ha. And my 7800 GTX (Yes, the one from 2005) has better plastic than my three GTX 480s, so, the 7800 GTX (from 2005) would win in a shootout for better hardware. Gee, thanks, iphone for your wonderful plastic!!

/sarcasm
/notbeingverynice

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Mizufall

Love the article but I have to disagree with round 3. PS Vita clearly has better graphic capabilities which I think for gaming is much more important than a "plastic feel".

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CloudRider

I'm going to say this before someone else does, but what does this have to do with PC's?

Aside from that, not bad. I'm still on the fence whether to buy a Vita; I'm holding out hoping they'll put out a hardware revision with a (micro?)HDMI-out.

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Zenmaster Jeff

I have to question the verdict in round 3. I believe you are missing a key factor oddly not addressed in this. CONTROLS. The Vita has two analog sticks, 9 buttons, & six axis sensors, & two touch screens.

I've played Batman Arkham City Lockdown, Mass Effect Infiltrator, & Dead Space on the iPod touch, and I have the same complaint about all of them. "Playing on just a touch screen is awkward." Any game where a portion of the screen is hidden because your hands/thumbs need access to the screen is frustrating. Not to mention the numerous times where if you don't "swipe your thumb correctly" you don't get the desired effect.

And I couldn't let this comment go: "The Vita can also be configured with 16, 32, or 64GB of storage, though it requires an additional purchase of a (new, proprietary, expensive) memory card."

Apple's storage is Proprietary, Not Upgradable/Not Replaceable, & More Expensive. There is a $100 difference between each storage size.

While I believe the use of proprietary storage is more of a money grab than it is for 'performance' purposes. I can at least upgrade my storage on a Vita without having to buy an entirely new Vita. If you want to compare response time, I'd be interested to see that.

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jaygregz

If they gave the vita the full gaming catalog of PS3 without having to have a PS3 then this would be a winner. Until then.. it's a children's toy.

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dethduck

Next Showdown:
Schwinn 10-speed VS. Volkswagen Beetle.

Makes as much sense. Seriously, what's the point of this?

They're two completely different products meant to fill two completely different roles. Just because there is some overlap, however minor or major, in no way makes them comparable to each other.

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gordonung

People have fixed budgets. When they're in the big box store and looking at something to buy I seriously think there people do wonder if they need a Vita when they can buy a new phone instead.

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Raswan

Not a horrible argument, but then why compare it to the 4S? It's asinine that the iPhone remains, for some reason, THE handset that gets default attention when it comes to representing the whole smartphone market. It's a dinosaur, except for the retina display (though, c'mon, 3.5" is a retarded size in 2012. It was fine in 2009 and 2010, but we've moved on) and the camera. Why not talk about the Droid Razer Maxx, or the Nexus, or the HTC One X?

Plus, you bring up a larger point. If someone is sitting in a big box store trying to make this decision, they are too stupid and likely too uninformed to care about the comparison MaxPC is doing in the first place... :)

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gordonung

We had a long talk on whether to use an Android handset or iPhone 4s but decided that the iPhone would be the proper to phone to use as the number of games it has makes it the strongest contender. This comes from someone who uses Android too.

As for them knowing what to buy, that's where you come in. I am, and I imagine you are, often the go-to person for any tech question. So the next time someone asks me if the Vita is worth buying, I'll tell them the reasons why it is better for a real gaming experience.

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Raswan

Fair enough. In any case, iPhone or Android, I'm convinced (though I wasn't before) the standalone handheld gaming device, like the PC, is not yet dead.

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phoenixjc

Unfortunately, living in the land of limited budgets, I rarely find myself standing in a store thinking to myself "should I blow these few c-notes on a new phone, or this gaming device?"
I mean, if you have that kind of problem, congratulations. Might I suggest a charity though, as pondering over the idea of spending hundreds of dollars on two dissimilar yet similar (they both have a screen and can play games,) devices makes you sound like a spoiled, rich, D.B.
Honestly, as someone who lives on a limited budget, I have never had the debate of should I get this new phone that I can play games on, or this new game system that I can't make phone calls on.

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tony2tonez

Im with Kuebel33, this is not really breaking news. I hate apple and their products and I have owned the first 2 psp, but to compare the two is pretty stupid.

Sony is designed for full immersed gameing plus you can take your ps3 games on the go as their commercials show. The games for iOS or andriod for that matter are just time sinkers (you could say the same for psp) but after a while the novelty just wares off and you move on.

I loved the psp because I traveled alot and enjoyed playing those games. I play some games on my andriod but i get bored because i feel their capabilities are limited due to the hardware, so the games are scaled to fit their device.

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shotgun-eddie

“it’s clear that the PlayStation Vita is simply the best way to play real, high-quality games while you’re away from home”

So your option is it is better then the 3DS as well. By how much? Do you think the 3DS takes apart an iPhone 4s in games? I got the 3DS not so much that I think it is better then the Sony, but just because I don’t like to buy Sony stuff. My 5 year old has to accept new Sony end user license agreements every other week to use the PS3 for Netflix Kids. I have ads streaming across the home screen. I don’t need that garbage in my pocket as well.

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kixofmyg0t

In before the firestorm of "NEVER AGAIN SONY!/I hate Sony/Sony sucks/everyone who likes Sony needs to be viciously raped!" hate that's sure to come...

I disagree with your verdict of the iPhone 4S winning the hardware department. The PSV has twice as many CPU and GPU cores(its not a big secret either, it's a quad Cortex A9) 2 cameras, 2 touch panels, 2 analog sticks.....I could go on but my point is its simply better in hardware than the iPhone period.

Giving that win to the iPhone simply because the PSV has a plastic case would be like saying the iPhone 4 has better hardware than the Galaxy Nexus because the Nexus is made out of plastic.

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kuebel33

Let's be honest. The Vita wins hands-down in any gaming showdown with any phone.

Vita is a gaming device developed primarily to play games and preform some other entertainment features.

iPhone is a phone developed primarily to be a phone.......and then play games.

I'm not even a Sony fanboy but this is kind of ridiculous. Obviously iOS and Android are impacting the hand-held gaming market space, but realistically, comparing a Vita to a phone is like comparing a baseball to a basketball. Sure you could play baseball with the basketball, but it would probably not be too much fun. It might be fun at first due to the novelty, but it would fade pretty fast (*looks at every "casual" touch screen controlled game ever). Probably have a tough time playing basketball with a baseball though... at least dribbling.

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gordonung

I actually would disagree. Before Alex did this showdown, I was in the camp that handheld gaming devices were dead because of all the practically free phones and games. My kids, for example, don't get dedicated handheld gaming devices. It's the old phone or current phone for that. I've also noticed that most of the older kids and pre-teen kids all run iPod-like or phone devices for "gaming" today so maybe there is hope for handheld gaming devices.

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kuebel33

Not sure what you were disagreeing with gordon. I think at the very least, Nintendo has always dominated the handheld market. You may not notice people with DS, 3DS, PSP, or Vita but they are there. I mean I have all of those, but I still play random rounds of Plants vs. Zombies or Angry Birds on my phone here and there because it's convenient on occasion. I think one of the real things to note is that phone games are truly mobile games, where the hardware and technology for gaming devices has changed so much that you can get a 40 hour game that feels like it should be a console game on 3DS (Resident Evil Revelations for example) or Vita (Uncharted Golden Abyss) that you will actually sit at home and play in your living room. I rarely fire up a game of angry birds at home.

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Raswan

Agreed. Probably 50% (or more?) of the handheld gaming population is going to be perfectly happy with relatively superficial, but pretty, games. That said, for anyone who has played angry birds or quell or cut the rope or WWF or draw somthing, you know you can only stand it for so long without wanting to puke from boredom. For anyone who is a serious handheld gamer (which we all were by default ten years ago), the Vita or the 3DS will be a no-brainer. Sony and Nintendo just have to find a way to convince people to carry both when they are on the go, whether through it's through hardware, software, or content experience.

Decent idea for an article, I just wish you'd picked a different device than the iPhone.

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bling581

Yeah, there's very few games that I've spent any real time playing. Most keep me occupied for a few hours at most. As it turns out, most of the games that I continuously play are the ones that cost more money. Things like Galaxy on Fire 2 and Infinity Blade 2 cost something like $5-8, have great graphics and offer lots of play time. You can't expect much from a game that costs a buck, but there are a select few that have a good amount of play time. I currently have a few dozen games on my phone, and I've probably purchased equally as many for a buck only to delete it from my phone after an hour or so.

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