Freeware Files: Five Windows Package Managers Reviewed!
Posted 06/15/09 at 03:00:00 PM by David Murphy
There was a ton of great feedback to my column last week, where I dreamed up (blabbed out loud) the idea of a Windows-based application store for open-source downloads. For the Linux layman, this would be something like a wicked hybrid of iTunes and apt-get. A package manager featuring pretty icons, one-click downloads, descriptions, and community interaction that could help bring the open source world just one step closer to the hearts and minds of average computer users.
As it turns out, a number of package managers already exist for the Windows operating system. In theory, they provide you the convenience of being able to hunt down a number of open-source projects, categorized by operation, which you can install without having to pore over the Web for the right file. Beyond that, they also give you a way to learn about newer open source projects that you might not have heard about or seen by your casual browsing on SourceForge. But are these applications as glorious as my dream from last week? Are these applications even worth your time at all?
Unlike typical open-source roundups, where I recommend five awesome programs that you. must. have. I'm actually going to give you the pros and cons of a series of five different package managers so you can decide for yourself as to which one would best fit your PC habits. So without further ado, I present: Windows Package Managers.
WinLibre

What it does: It's not DOA, but WinLibre is definitely a package manager that's on its dying legs. But you wouldn't think that by the activity on the Web site. Heck, WinLibre has even become a mentoring organization for this year's big Google "Summer of Code" programming binge. Don't let that fool you, however. WinLibre itself draws from a small list of outdated software (we're talking Firefox 1.0 here), more than half of which return 404 File Not Found errors. Average execution, horrible management -- were there only a way to flag incorrect entries and/or contribute new links to the database without WinLibre calling the shots. Epic fail.
(Don't) Download it here!
QWinApt

What it does: This program doesn't work in Windows XP. I'll just get that out of the way first so you don't spend an hour trying to troubleshoot the continual program crashes, as I did. Fire this sucker up in Vista, however, and you'll be treated to a pretty comprehensive list of applications across more than ten categories of use. That's a great start for this (admittedly) beta application. What's not-so-great is the follow-through. For starters, the application still links to older versions of programs--like Gimp version 2.2.17 instead of the more recent 2.6.6 release. Firefox? Still on version 2.0.0.7. That's quite a gap. Secondly, the package manager doesn't even install any programs for you. It creates a huge list of categorical folders in the download directory you select, then dumps the installation executables for whatever programs you choose to download into these folders. That's it. Eh.
(Think about) Downloading it here!
AppSnap

What it does: I was so excited for AppSnap. Catchy name? Check. Comprehensive list of applications, more than any other package installer application reviewed thus far? Check. Updated link to main download page for all applications? Check. The program seemed to work. The program seemed to deliver updated links to popular programs. The program... utterly failed to download anything I selected. A total letdown, but AppSnap should be thought of more as a "guide" to new programs you can download rather than an actual downloading utility. While the giant list and official homepage links helped me eventually navigate to the files I wanted, there's no way this program will actually download or install the applications for you.
(Get a list of programs when you) Download it here!
GetIt

What it does: It's a little kludgy (and was slow as heck for me), but GetIt fulfills the two main criteria for a successful package manager. One: It contains a comprehensive list of open-source and freeware applications for the taking. Two: Selecting a program and clicking "download" actually pulls down a recent version of the application. While I'd love to see more (or any) descriptions about the programs featured in this helpful package manager, at least the darn program works... for the most part. Expect to see 404 "File Not Found" errors littered throughout this application. But hey--at least it gets the right version of Firefox, eh?
(Get Firefox when you) Download it here!
Win-Get

What it does: It works. This command-line based package manager is like combining the thrill of application installation with the insanity of shooting at a set of targets in the dark. To download and install applications, you append the name of the application in question to the end of a command-line prompt. Is there a comprehensive list you can refer to in regards to the programs that Win-Get can acquire? No. Can you update the program with a catalog of your own, listing the exact URLs for a specific group of applications you want to install? Yes. Do I know how to do that? No. Win-Get is home to powerful functionality, but no ease-of-use whatsoever.
(Go back to your DOS days and) Download it here!
The Last Word
As the roundup might suggest, there just aren't any foolproof package managers for the Windows operating system nowadays. At least, there aren't any that I could find. If I've completely missed the best package manager out there -- or if you've uncovered the tiniest of rocks and found one that actually works -- please let me know. I'll profile the application next week and you'll get major shout-outs / street-cred / hugs.
As always, you can follow me on Twitter for the latest in computer geekery and/or app-chat! Recommend free programs of any variety or suggest awesome ideas for future roundups you want me to run. I only say no to truly horrible ideas. See you next week!
How stupid I’m! I tried to
Submitted by saracarrol on Sun, 08/09/2009 - 12:49am
How stupid I’m! I tried to install Qwinapt in XP… my eyes just escaped that there is something written below the dialogue box! Anyways thanks for the great list. I will install vista in my pc and then I’m going to use this great program.Puppies for sale
Instead of useing these
Submitted by Dearnhardt3 on Thu, 06/18/2009 - 7:55pm
Instead of useing these programs with outdated files. Just use Filehippo.com
Sorry, Double Post
Submitted by winmaster on Tue, 06/16/2009 - 10:27am
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The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
There are some great
Submitted by KaylaKaze on Tue, 06/16/2009 - 8:32am
There are some great programs that do similar stuff that these SHOULD do but with game mods and addons (Curse, WOWMatrix, Two Worlds Control Panel). There's really no excuse for these programs to be so bad when there are such a good sources to copy from. The hardest part is maintaining the repository.
Great Article
Submitted by JDorfler on Tue, 06/16/2009 - 12:54am
Great article. However, I do wish these would work just like Synaptic. Oh well. Maybe your article will get a fire burning under somebody and get things rolling.
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It's funny, like just hours
Submitted by jwalch.hawk on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 10:49pm
It's funny, like just hours before I read this I was commenting to someone about how Windows doesn't have this (unlike in Linux where package managers a la Synaptic are the norm). In particular, it was in reference to the blurb on the last podcast about how W7 goes to Europe without IE (and subsequent discussion about how then one goes about downloading any browser). It seems strange to me that Microsoft doesn't want in on this. I would think Microsoft would want to develop a package manager, and create a repository of software, where they put your software on their list for a fee (step 3: profit!). I know that this is obviously NOT what you (or most of us, frankly) want to happen, but I can't imagine that if Microsoft did it that a good open source version wouldn't shortly follow - if for no other reason than the fact that this hypothetical MS scenario would piss off every open source developer in existence.
I've used AppSnap for the
Submitted by ogremustcrush on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 2:50pm
I've used AppSnap for the last few years, with generally good results. The interface is awful, I'll say that straight up, but once you have managed to create a list of programs to download, in my experience it manages to download nearly all of them. I'm not sure why it wasn't working for the author, but I've used it on XP, Vista, Win 7, and Win 7 x64 successfully many times.
I got appsnap to work. then
Submitted by majorsuave on Tue, 06/16/2009 - 7:42pm
I got appsnap to work. then I also installed get this which used appsnap engine.
So, appsnap does it for now
Or...
Submitted by winmaster on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 2:47pm
...you could get off your lazy ass, forget all of these shitty programs, and find the latest versions of the programs you want yourself. Its called download.com.
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The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
You must have missed this
Submitted by TheMurph on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 6:15pm
You must have missed this line, Winmaster:
"Beyond that, they also give you a way to learn about newer open source projects that you might not have heard about or seen by your casual browsing on SourceForge"
I generally...
Submitted by winmaster on Tue, 06/16/2009 - 10:28am
I generally don't download programs that haven't been tested and
approved by a source I trust. I don't need a program to find other
programs for me because most of the programs it will find will be
buggy, loaded with viruses, virtually useless, or all of the above.
Sorry, Murph, but I just fail to see the usefulness of these programs
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The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
nice
Submitted by BaggerX on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 4:42pm
Way to make a useful contribution to the discussion dude. Keep up the good work!
I prefer FileForum or
Submitted by MAXPCreader07 on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 4:36pm
I prefer FileForum or MajorGeeks over Download.com, but otherwise I agree with you 100%
Wait, what?
Submitted by Zoomer on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 12:49pm
So the whole article is basically there to point out the fact that there isn't one that even remotely fulfills all the requirements of a GOOD Package Manager? That sucks. I was actually hoping there would be something easy to use and somewhat reliable in here. <_<
Just as it is important to
Submitted by TheMurph on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 1:27pm
Just as it is important to highlight good freeware wherever it exists, so is it equally important to note when a specific category or field has no good software whatsoever. Believe me, I tried my hardest to find a good package manager. And I would much rather you read that so-and-so application was a complete dud, even given its up-to-date Web site and seemingly useful features, then have to install it and find out for yourself.
Thanks!
Submitted by Zoomer on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 7:27pm
Well, you're just doing your job, and who knows? I may have downloaded one of these in the hypothetical future and just ended up angry with myself for it. Thanks for making the future a less stressful place! ^___^
Thanks for making the future
Submitted by TheMurph on Tue, 06/16/2009 - 8:54am
Thanks for making the future a less stressful place!
I'm like the Terminator for freeware.
How about one that actually works?
Submitted by jeff.petersen on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 12:04pm
Ketarin + FileHippo static links will keep common intallers up to date. Granted, it doesn't run the installers for you (seems like a better plan anyway). Pick only the packages you want, and update all at the click of a button.
Works perfect for keeping an up-to-date app collection you can burn to CD for those oh-so-frequent cleanup/reinstalls we are always doing for our frineds and family.
http://ketarin.canneverbe.com/
Ahh. I avoided Ketarin
Submitted by TheMurph on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 12:17pm
Ahh. I avoided Ketarin because I was mainly trying to look at package installers this week: applications that give you a list of programs, let you select the ones you want, then automatically pull/install these programs onto your PC.
That said, I can see a future story for automatic updating programs. Thanks for the Ketarin tidbit. : )
Got an edit for you
Submitted by Mothership on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 12:01pm
In paragraph three it says "Are these applications even worth you time at all?" Also I don't know if it's on purpose or not but in the third paragraph it says "Unlike typical open-source roundups, where I recommend five awesome programs that you. must. have." The periods might just be there to for the importance effect but I thought I would let you know.
Thanks for the quick catch
Submitted by TheMurph on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 12:15pm
Thanks for the quick catch on you/your. Fixed.
As for the periods, they're there in loving homage to Miss Tyra Banks, who inserts. Dramatic. Pauses. Whenever she's about to discuss semi-important (ok, really, not-at-all-important) issues on America's Next. Top. Model.
Funny...
Submitted by codepath on Tue, 06/16/2009 - 6:07am
I have seen the periods thing before but I always heard them in head in using William Shatner's voice.
A fair interpretation,
Submitted by TheMurph on Tue, 06/16/2009 - 8:55am
A fair interpretation, especially if you've ever watched his rocket man debacle.
AppSnap unmaintained?
Submitted by dstoeberl on Mon, 06/15/2009 - 11:53am
I used AppSnap a long time ago, when it did actually work. At this point I'd avoid it completely -- to get the same comprehensive, categorized list of free software in the app, you can use the "Applications" link on the app's page.
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