Fast Forward: Whither Apple, After Steve?

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szore

All I'm saying is this guy is overrated. He made some shiny new toys that so far I have been perfectly happy to live without. Good for him. Enough already with this guy.

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thetechchild

A whole lot of people would be rather unhappy to live w/o their iDevices. I'm no Apple enthusiast, but that's pretty disrespectful to diss a guy who made millions with innovative devices. I can't name a single piece of hardware that would be here today without one of Steve Jobs's devices as the foundation.

The PC? Macs. Even Gates worked on apps for the early ones. Microsoft continues to do so today.
The Internet? See NXT workstation.
Smartphones? iPhone. 2007. Practically defined the smartphone category as we know it today.
Music players? iPod. Rock solid and great overall product, pretty much only player after Walkmen.

Name a couple of real devices besides the TV (which doesn't really have innovation... just a couple of inventions here and there, and a few gimmicks from smartphones and PCs tossed in) which operate independently of all the above and offer the same value for entertainment, information, etc.

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__me

Amen!

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TechLarry

Yes, yes yes.  Apple's developers will jump ship from the hardware that holds the highest installed base, outsells everything else, and has the largest, easiest to use app store in existance.

The platform that has made even hobbiest programmers millionairs in mere weeks.

The platform that hundreds of people line up around the building to buy on Launch Day (show me that in Droid-Space).

Riiiight.

Objective C ain't no big thing.  People have been programming in it for years and years and years.

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h e x e n

Steve Jobs was nothing more than a crook who took credit for other peoples ideas. All apple did was steal concepts and go big with them. ipod, ipad, iphone, ianything it seems, was around long before apple got their hands on it. OK fine, that's cool. I wouldn't have a problem with that except they continuously flaunt the idea that they are the true pioneers of all these gadgets and devices, half of which serve no real practical use. Apple didn't invent the mp3 player, nor the touch/smart phone, nor the tablet, nor their shitty OS which is built, you guessed it, off of someone else's idea. They cleverly and quietly stood on the shoulders of others to accomplish their success.

What I will give apple credit for, is doing all of these things better than most. My original ipod lasted a good 6 years before failing and when it did, I went out and bought another one. They've obviously gotten some things right and have hit some real home runs in the tech arena. Their contribution is undeniable and I'm hoping the death of the king will only increase their success.

I really do hope that with Steve's passing that apple finally wises up and unshackles their software from the draconian strongarms grip that was Jobs. There's a reason Windows runs nearly 90% of the world.

I'd be very interested in seeing what freelance developers could come up with inside apple OS's. What tweaks they would make, what things they would change and how they would improve it's functionality. The sky's the limit, but they have to ditch the handcuffs first.

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thetechchild

You're assuming for some reason that for some reason, the formation of ideas is substantial, and the delivery of actual products is somehow less so. Ideas are just ideas. Apple made good products, not good ideas. And maybe Steve Jobs was restrictive, but he was a genius and visionary either way. Idiots and true criminals don't die as rich heroes... Just because some insane guy back in the 70s envisioned a day when people would carry chunks of metal in their pockets that could be used for instantaneous access to visual and auditory communication, information, and entertainment, does not mean that that person was a visionary. Steve Jobs helped pioneer actual implementations of ideas that other people worked with him on.

The NXT, used by Berners-Lee for the first step to the creation of the Internet, was not a stolen idea. The iPhone was almost the first of its kind, and certainly the most popular at the time of its release.

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Holly Golightly

I do not know Apple's destiny for sure... But Steve Jobs was a visionary... I am not sure if Tim Cook is a visionary leader like Steve Jobs. This sort of reminds me of when Steve Balmer replaced Bill Gates. Bill Gates was the visionary and Steve Balmer is the business man. Often business men lack that creativity a visionary could give. So, when I think about Apple's destiny... I think it will share a similar fate that Microsoft did. Sure, the iPhone is great, and the iPad is popular too... But they can't keep milking the same damn things. The iPhone 4S is that very example. Nothing revolutionary. Everything an iPhone 4S did, the iPhone 4 does too. The iPhone 5 better be revolutionary, or we may just see Apple lose some of its' market. Those Android phones are cutting edge. Windows Phone is growing fast in the app department. It wont be long before the competition catches up. I do not know if Tim Cook is a business man or a visionary. Apple, like all companies need visionaries. I think Jeff Bezos is the next Steve Jobs. That Kindle Fire sells at about 2,000 per hour. This thing is already big before it was even launched! It is destined to sell. Maybe even sell more than the popular iPad. Only time will tell. Let's just hope Tim Cook is no Steve Balmer.

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thetechchild

Microsoft has not really declined since Bill Gates left. Although, Windows Phone's growth is pretty irrelevant when considering the popularity of the iPhone iterations.

I think Apple will continue to hold its share of the market simply due to its grip there already, as a name brand and with R&D already strongly behind its current ventures. When those paradigms fail, though, there might not be a visionary who finds a way to take advantage of what's up and coming, and that could be when Apple begins to die out.

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Holly Golightly

You are right. Although it feels like Microsoft is blindfolded and hitting everywhere they can. Like a hit or miss. Sure, they are successful in the console gaming battleground, but like you said, they are almost irrelevant in the phone competition. They make brilliant ideas, but then they fail to follow through. Things like the Zune and MS Courier. Yet they do so damn well with Office, and Kinect. They are untouchable in computer OS market. Overall, it feels like Microsoft is following up. Google Search before Bing, iTunes before Zune, PlayStation 2 before Xbox, NetScape before Internet Explorer and the list goes on. They look at something cool, and then they follow through. I have more faith in Microsoft than Apple. Apple only has the 1 image, and seems to fail outside anything that is not mobile. Just look at the iMac, Apple TV, Time Capsule, and the Pinpin. They can not reach up to the competition. No way. Their future is iPhone and iPad. Microsoft makes cool things like Windows 8, Kinect, Office, they will be always be relied upon. That is 3 seperate markets verse Apple's 1 mobile market. I hope there will be more visionaries like Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates. These are quality CEOs that we hardly see now-a-days.

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LatiosXT

Well there is the fact that Jobs chose Objective-C for some reason when he found NeXT and Mac OS X took everything from NeXTStep. Probably didn't want his baby to go to waste.

But yeah, when I was looking around software development internships, they all required knowledge in C/C++. Many of them required C#. Only a few wanted Java. No love for Objective-C. It'll probably be one of those niche markets.

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thetechchild

When you know one, it's easy enough to learn the rest... Syntactically they're quite similar, though of course the underpinnings are very different (and knowledge of that is what's most important in learning a new prog. lang.)

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