Exclusive: Oil Immersion Cooling Goes Mainstream with Hardcore PC's Reactor

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Talcum X

 Even though the case is cool and the innovation to make it all work seems cool, the "customness" of the parts isn't.  Should have designed the case to accepte industry standard parts  Might have been cheeper to do that with small adapters to take those parts instead of having vendors make them spacifically for this rig.  Then the upgradablility is there, open to anyone, as it should be.  But, Ive asked this before, why not use this oil in your liquid cooling setup instead of conductive water.  At least it would be liquid cooling without the conserns that come with it.  The case is really cool and inovative though.  Some sacrifices with the slim drives as they are not performance, but the SSDs are...so maybe a tradeoff.

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Kaldor

Dont quite understand how they got a patent for this.  Puget Systems and Toms Hardware did this years ago.

Heres the link to the Puget Systems machine, which has been running for over 18 months IIRC.

http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

Quite possibly one of the coolest projects Ive seen to date.

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kottmgrr

Sure people have done it before. However, Puget's tank was also built a year after these guys filed for thier patent in 2006.

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Spider-Mom

Other unconventional methods of cooling can alreadu cool a cpu and other parts past its fail point. Eventually when you over clock a CPU to a certine point heat is no longer the issue preventing it from going any further. And no amount of extra cooling past that point will help. Other methods of cooling can already do this. If this is easyer or cheaper than those options then it a good option. But I dont think your ever going to get a CPU as cold with oil as you are with phase change.

 

Also, ive heard that some times when people do this they find out that imperfections in radom parts can cause problems with the hardware. The bigger problem seems to be that adding more complicaation to the desine adds more chanse of failuire under submersion. The hi end 8 layer mother boards you want for over clocking fit that discription.

One problem ive seen more than once is that flaws in a PCB will allow and oil to saturate it under hier temps. Thats bad FYI.

 

What I cant say is that this isnt cool and that I dont want to try it. Also idiot friends who come over and maybe even gurls will think its coolto have a bubbly computer!!!!!!

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Ian Ashdown

What happened to the synjet coolers? Check out their Web site -- they are being used in next-generation solid-state lighting modules from Philips Lighting.

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Regun

I think it looks great! The concept looks solid and it looks insane.

I hope the general public pick up on it. The website is great looking also.

I'd like to have me one of those! :D

 

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iswlvs

Anyone remember the supposedly groundbreaking technology developed at Georgia Tech a few years ago that was supposed to increase a regular old heat sink's ability 2 or 3 times?  Two of the technologies were called Synthetic Jet And Droplet Atomization, and were licensed to Atlanta-based Innovative Fluidics.  We should be seeing the rewards by now. 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/12/031203081439.htm

That company is apparently now named Nuventix.

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billysundays

Before you guys at MaxPC even consider featuring this rig on your cover any time soon, getting these nerds all horny with all those dripping oil, money-shot pics, remember; L-Computers...

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gordonung

"To make sure that Klum wasn’t about to rip off his mask to reveal that he was Ashton Kutcher and that Maximum PC and its readers had just been Punk’d, we did some legwork to verify the background on the company. The U.S. Patent Office does indeed show Klum, CTO Chad Attlesey and CEO Al Berning with a patent for liquid submersion. The Minnesota Secretary of State shows the company was incorporated in January of 2006 and credit checks with both Experian and Dun and Bradstreet check out too. If this is a rouse to create Internet hype for computers that will never be sold (gee have we heard that one before?), it would certainly have to be the most elaborate scam to date."

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billysundays

First of all, I'm not denying you guys have done your homework on this one, but your right that the level of proprietary design smacks of custom pc, small business start up failure, and I've had my heart broken too many times to be wooed by the exciting pics of a sexy, oiled, chassis, the old "preproduction hands-on" reach around, or the quivering whispers of “aerospace” this and "moderately priced" that.

Uh-Uh, they gonna have ta prove themselves for me!

And secondly, how did you apply boldface, I can't find that option anywhere.

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gordonung

Right. Only the market will tell us if it works out of not.

There should be a little toolbar that pops up on comments with a standard bold, itaclics, underline buttons. 

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willsmith

You can also use common HTML tags.

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billysundays

I see all but bold there, I can't even copy and paste text in bold.

By the way, my sense of caution aside, this is a awesome exclusive, great job Gordon!

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gordonung

Only we get bold so we can yell.

 You can always opt for the old man way of yelling:

 TYPING EVERYTHING IN UPPERCASE.

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dufusking

Off shore drilling rigs that use remote operated vehicles dunk the electronics in mineral oil (stuff tastes nasty too). It is effective, for the most part, but if you even look at newegg and see the gripes about rma turnaround, then what do you think is going to happen when the mobo fries? If you have to pull it apart, wait for it to drian, ship it (or if they do cross ship thats cool) then get the new board and hook everything up to it, you will most likely see these all over ebay from people who got fed up, just a thought.

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XSV DBLs

It's about fucking time a manufacturer made a oil cooled PC.  People have been doing this for a long time, but it's never looked pleasing to the eye.

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nekollx

Was bound to happen, when I saw a enthusiant make a toap loaded mineral oil pc jsut "to see if it works" i know we would get this just a little over a year later, just liek water cooling.

 

And frankly i think its cool.

 

 

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Spider-Mom

people have been doing this for WAY more than a year.

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Torpin17

I hope they advance on this product and its get out there for everyone to use

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neo1piv14

Made of win. Runs on awesome

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karnak

Just wow!

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cheddarlump

Hope they're not concerned with keeping their patent, I built one of these in late 2005 for fun that shows prior art.. :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheddarlump/sets/72057594056549263/

Sure was fun getting the cable assemblies sealed, next time I'll solder up a bulkhead connector.

Funny, because I ended up needing a radiator too.. :)

 

 

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guitronics

  •  The thing about patents is: They give you the right to sue others for using your idea.The firm with the most money for legal fees wins 99.9% of the time....they just wear down the other party.

 

  •  Prior art will possibly grant you a win in the 0.1% column...as long as you have the financial resources to beat back "The Plaintiff".

 

  •  A guy who wrote extensively on why NOT to get a patent, unless you have millions to fight in court with, is Don Lancaster.
  •    Do a google on his name, or "Guru's Lair"....he's written extensively in the last 30 years or so for major electronics magazines, as well as having written numerous books on various topics,especially electronics (Active Filter Cookbook).

 

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