The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Tweaks Improve Graphics, Disable VSync, Change FOV, and More

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Biceps

Ok, so I am seeing a ton of whining and griping from a lot of people below about how awful Skyrim is.  The funniest part is that of all the people complaining about how bad it is, not one of them has actually purchased or played it. I'm not sure how that makes for an informed opinion in their minds, but I suppose that people are entitled to hold on to even uninformed opinions if they like.

I have both purchased and played Skyrim - I actually just lost an entire weekend to the game. It... is... f*cking... AWESOME.  A very very good game.  The graphics are fantastic - I'm running the game on Ultra graphics and it is glorious.  The gameplay is great, and the bugs are minimal.  I've had a couple hangs, but haven't experienced one crash yet, and I'm at 20+ hours of gameplay.

If you hate fantastic RPGs, if you hate amazing art, if you dislike excellent character development, and if you really despise paying 60 bucks and then feeling like you got your money's worth, then Skyrim is not for you.  However, in my opinion, if you are a PC gamer who loves a good game, Skyrim is great... now. :)

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bling581

Don't tell Bethesda, but I'd pay even more than $60 for their Elder Scrolls series. I'm new to the series having purchased Oblivion just this past July but I'm already at 60+ hours on my first character and I'm not even close to being done. The game itself is worth every penny, but the amount of replay value it gives is obscene. Now that Skyrim is out I probably won't be finishing Oblivion :(

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bling581

Some of the objects or details looked a little off to me, but overall the graphics are incredible, especially some of the detail they put in the character models. I don't know about everyone else but I'm playing on 1920x1200 with almost all the settings on High or Ultra. I can understand why they might look off to someone playing on Med to Low settings.

Like someone else below stated, there's the little things I have issues with but overall it's a 9-10 so far.

Only crashing problem I've had so far is alt-tab. I have to alt tab twice to get back in the game and then sometimes it crashes on me. Not a huge problem but annoying when I'm trying to Wikki something, write down my alchemy ingredient properties, etc.

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YOUTH FRENZY

 

I was really looking forward to this game and once I saw its graphics i was like what the hell. The trees looked rubish. Bestheda should do something about the engine they use for their games. Games like witcher 2 and even fable 3 had better graphics than this when it comes to trees geometry and texturing.

Thanks for the teeks though. Hope this helps!

 

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h e x e n

Yeah, the graphics leave something to be desired. BF3 looks way better in my opinion.

Although, the sweeping views you get of the landscapes and the mountains are simply stunning. I have no trouble at all losing countless hours in this game. Anything dealing with artificial geometry, like stone and buildings are fantastic. When you get close enough to the natural geometry, like trees, bushes and rocks, it becomes apparent that it's not as detailed as it should be.

Taking into account the whole experience though, I'm pretty happy with the game.

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kixofmyg0t

The graphics leave something to be desired? Wait wernt you the one who just said gaming on PC is "Graphcally superior"? 

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YOUTH FRENZY

I was really looking forward to this game and once I saw its graphics i was like what the hell. The trees looked rubish. Bestheda should do something about the engine they use for their games. Games like witcher 2 and even fable 3 had better graphics than this when it comes to trees geometry and texturing.

Thanks for the teeks though. Hope this helps!

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kixofmyg0t

Glad I didnt pick this up right away. Ill wait until it becomes a greatest hit or Ill buy it used for PS3.

 

Btw after looking at the before and after pictures for about 10 minutes....I can just barely tell the difference between the two. One has more "plastic wrap" effect(thats what I call it when everything looks super shiny) thats it. Im now officially in the "I dont effin care about graphics" group. 

Gaming on PC is pointless. Its just a "hey look how cool I am my graphics are teh bestest and urs isnt n00b" group of trolls that dont even play the game for FUN. Just eye candy bragging rights.

Btw only 200k people got Skyrim for PC?(roughly, its a bit more but no hard numbers) Thats the biggest fail right there. All this talk about Skyrim before and all the haters bashing on MW3 and BF3.....and only 200k-ish actually got it LOL. All this talk about "oh everyone on PC just downloads the game".......well I think the last number I saw was 253,000 some odd people got it off Steam......thats pathetic. Even BF3 sold more than that....on PS3....in ONE WEEKEND. 

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linesma

You make an interesting point.  I can see how you would have the impression that PC Gaming is pointless and that PC Gamers only care about "cool graphics".  As a PC Gamer myself, been gaming on a PC since "Zork", graphics are important, but not deal breaker.  I too was slightly underwhelmed by the graphics, but it was the story that drew me in.  For me, having an engaging story is the key factor when I judge games.  Why do I choose the PC over consoles?  Customization, both of controls and gameplay itself by mods, and I also find using a gaming comtroller, whether PS3 or XBox, awkward.  Yes, I own both a PS3 and an XBox 360, and I have a hard time being able to immerse myself in the gameplay because I feel like I am fighting the controls.  This impacts my enjoyment.  This is just me, and I know that other people feel differently, and that is great.

It is my opinion, that PC gaming is not pointless.  As you have stated in a later post, it is not practical for you and the console gives you the flexibility you want.  For myself, the PC meets my requirements and is more practical for me.  I game on a desktop while at home, and on a laptop while traveling.  That all being said, gaming is a way for people to relax and enjoy themselves.  This is true whether it is on a console, tablet, cell phone, or a PC.  What is important is that they find the system that is right for them.  Being dismissive of a platform that one finds doesn't meet their specific needs, and stereotyping users of other platforms is not "cool".  While I find that a console does not meet my needs, I still believe it has a place, and I encourage people to try them out to find a system that best meets their needs.  Yes, there are those PC Gamers out there where graphics are the be all end all, but your average PC Gamer plays games to have fun.

Sorry for the long winded post.

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Biceps

I agree with you, but I actually use an xbox controller for Skyrim - I started the game using the mouse and keyboard, but actually find the xbox controller to be easier to use.  Since Skyrim is arguably a (very good) console port, the controls are pretty easy and intuitive on the controller. I don't own an xbox, but the controller is pretty good, and allows me to sit back and put my feet up when I'm playing - can't do that with a keyboard/mouse!

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LatiosXT

You forget one thing that makes the Elder Scrolls experience infinitely superior to the console versions: The fact that I can mod the game. The community I'm sure right now is sparse, but give or take by the start of next year, there will be a plethora of mods to add to my heart's desire. It got so bad(?) with Oblivion that I can't play the game vanilla anymore. And I'm sure within a year, the same thing will happen with Skyrim, assuming I don't find something else to become a time sink.

So you're quick to assume that everyone is just on the PC gaming wagon for the graphics. Heck, I made a friend who bought Oblivion on the PS3 jealous because I told him about the Akatosh mount mod. Can you ride dragons all over Cyrodil with your console version? 

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h e x e n

Seems to me you're basing your enjoyment of games off how many other people play them. Poor show buddy. Very poor show. I feel sorry you can pin your enjoyment down to a numerical value like that.

And yeah, people play on the PC because it's a superior experience. You hit the nail on the head. Grahpical superiority. Not to mention I can remap all of my controls, load the game infinitely faster because of the SSD, scale past 1080P, change and manipulate settings to my liking via the .ini file, quicksave whenever I want, alt tab and surf whenever I want without switching form factors...

I mean the list goes on and on.

Simply put, the PC is a superior platform in almost every way. The one drawback I can think of is couch time. Meaning you generally can't get two or more players playing on a single PC at a time. Super Smash Bros comes to mind. Great game to play with three other buddies but is something you can't do on the PC.

To say PC gaming is pointless is as asinine as sticking your hand in a fire and getting burned, but refusing to call it hot. You're either blind, a vacant person who has to complain about everything or simply cannot afford it.

 

 

***Seems like I'm the only PC gamer who was extremely satisfied with both BF3 and Skyrim. I have my little gripes, but overall I think both games are fantastic.

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kixofmyg0t

I never hinted that my enjoyment was based on how many people buy a game. Learn to read. 

You also mentioned that a potential drawback of PC gaming is playing with other people. Thats a HUGE deal breaker for me. Being able to pop in a disc(nomatter where I am...such as Iraq or in the field or just at home) crack open a beer and chill with friends and play Spec Ops/multiplayer in MW3....or any number of the 80+ games I own is something I personally love about the way I choose to game. Sitting in a basement jacking off to how "pretty" a perfectly rendered tree looks like most PC gamers do(or play WoW...cuz thats the "other" type of PC gamer) just doesnt do it for me.

You mention you can remap all the controls....thats cool I guess...I personally have no need to make controls unfamiliar all the time. You also mentioned you have the freedom to change settings and various other things via ini....thats true yes....also I dont care about any of that. I dont need to spend time I could be actually PLAYING trying to get that tree perfectly rendered. You can alt tab and surf when you want....thats very true. I can also simply look down at my tablet. Oh and neither one of them will crash for no reason because Im using them at the same time. 

The second biggest drawback for me is DRM. While most are not affected.....I simply cant play a game that FORCES me to have a constant internet connection. Im not always in the states....and even then I dont ALWAYS have an internet connection. If Im deployed I can still get together with my team and play MW(just not online....but we can still PLAY). 

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steven4570

youre a troll, hater be gone, your stupidity doesnt belong here

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h e x e n

What a fantastic argument. You can just say you don't care about anything I mentioned and my points are invalidated.

Well done sir. I concede.

On the other hand, I do understand that not everyone has a constant internet connection all of the time and it is a valid point. Just as my points are also valid. I think we're both claiming our experience as the majority, which is pretentious.

 

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steven4570

in 3 years there will still be lots of people playing skyrim...very few people will be playing mw3 or even bf3 by that time. so go have fun with your ps3 and well have our fun on pc, 13year old be gone

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kixofmyg0t

In 3 years alot MORE people will be playing whatever new first person shooter comes out on PC....I still play C&C Red Alert 2...whats ur point?

 

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steven4570

whats your point? im pointing out the replay value of skyrim over most of the games out. 

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mattman059

rage much? or maybe couldnt get mom  to give you an advance on your allowance...

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kixofmyg0t

Yep thats it. Thats EXACTLY it. Go back to jacking off to screens of Crysis 1 kthxbai. 

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zaphodbeeblebrox 42

what i have gathered about all the games everyone was super hyped up about come out in the last month including. moder warfare 3, battlefield 3, and last, but not least, skyrim joing the ranks of fail. how i would put this giant fail is like this

modern warfare 3. : on the failboat

battlefield 3: designed the failboat

skyrim:is currnetly boarding the failboat

i think ill be a semi smart cookie and buy mw3 and skyrim on steam christmas sale and buy bf3 when they get their shit together at origin

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Gezzer

Sorry don't take this as flaming, but how can you say fail for games you haven't even played yet?

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Digital-Storm

He just mad he can't afford to buy Skyrim, so he rants about it saying it is bad.

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zaphodbeeblebrox 42

i can afford all these games now if i wanted. but im not going to pay alot of money for soemthing that isnt all its cooked up to be.

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Gezzer

Yeah, that makes sense.

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steven4570

my 2 cents...

This is my first elders skrolls game and the first game of its type that i have ever played.  in the 6 hours or so i have put into it thus far ive had only one crash at the very beginning, other than that it works fine.  AS for the UI in this and in fallout, i dont have anything to compare it to so i really just dont understand why everyone says its bad.  Every game has a different UI and every game takes a few minutes to get use to so i dont see what the fuss is about  As for the pc vs console stuff...i hate consoles as much as the next pc gamer but heres the thing...Truth is 95% of big titles (if not all of them) are designed for consoles.  No one spends the time they should on the pc side of things in this day and age (maybe that will change when the consoles are updated so they are able to push the PC more?)  there maybe a game here or there that may pay a little bit more attention to it but by and large the pc is an afterthought in almost all cases.  Skyrim could be a crap load better on PC i agree, having said that its still in the top 10% of all games out there in the value, content, replay value and intelligence dept, unlike the garabge from activison and MW3.  

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Baer

It runs fine for me. No crashes but the graphics are only great if you use console gameing as your refrence. They are DX9 all the way, good DX9 but still console graphics. The game does not allow wide screen gaming so those of us that have high end rigs with surround or eyfinity are out of luck. The gaming community is working to fix this. It is necessary to change the ini file and then hack the game to play in wide screen mode and even then the menues are greatly distorted.

The game is deep and imersive but it is a dumed down for consoles port with a simplified UI for consoles. While the story and game itself seem great the implimentation is set for five year old hardware (consoles) so it is a console game that has been ported to run on Windows. Bethesda should have just sold it for consoles or they should have done a better job on the P C version. Don't get me wrong, I really like the game but it will take the P C moding community to make it realy playable, something the game developers were paid to do.

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Gezzer

I'm running a i7 875K@4.15Ghz, 8gigs memory, ATI HD 4870 512Mb, with Win7 64bit, and haven't had a crash yet. In fact the only bug I've found is a wierd one with looting. Sometimes you kind of pick a person up and then you can drag them around, really funny looking. Just hit "e" again and try looting from a different angle and it works.

As for any complaints about the graphics. All I have to say is WTF?!?

First off go here and check out some of the video's.

http://nexus404.com/Blog/2011/11/11/skyrim-pc-vs-xbox-360-vs-playstation-which-should-you-buy-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-already-played-by-over-230000-gamers-on-steam-on-launch-date/

After watching the first one, check out a few of the others. Like a couple comparing to Oblivion. You'll see that Skyrim is a major improvment over it. In fact character faces are the only thing that looks close, and even that Skyrim wins.

Now as for console compared to PC, well yeah they all look good. But there's subtle things that make the PC win. And that's what's important those subtle things. Graphics are reaching a point where they really only have a small percentage to go till we're looking a photo realisim at playable frame rates. It's just going to take a ton of work and GPU processing power to put it over the top.

I challange anyone to do the run down to Rivertown and not stop and marvel at the big rapids you see. I've lived in areas that have features like that, and I swear I stood there for 5-10 minutes. It was so close to the real thing I was amazed.

Faces on the other hand I find aren't there yet and I think due to the "uncanny valley" they're going to be the biggest problem for developers. Check this video out on more about it.

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/the-uncanny-valley

I don't have a console version to compare with but I'm really impressed so far. I think it's going to be a contender for GotY, and should easily get RPGotY. They did a great job.

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Astounding

That's not a glitch.  You hold E to pick up objects and people.

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Gezzer

Okay, don't know why you'd need to do that, unless it's to unstack bodies so you can loot everyone. lol

I do find it funny how it only does it once in awhile, be nice if there was a way to control it.  Or should I ask is there a way to control it?

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Astounding

That's not a glitch.  You hold E to pick up objects and people.

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Digital-Storm

Runs amazing on my computer, and I rarely crash ever. Everyone complaining of crashing must be playing a different game. I run the game on High settings with a Core 2 Duo e6600 @ 3.0Ghz, 4GB ram, and a gtx 285.

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mattman059

 Everyone complaining of crashing must be playing a different game
- Not true..mine crashes but it seems to be an issue with shadowing, a quick google search results in many other people with many different problems all of which can and will be solved eventually...true lovers of the game will continue to work around the minor issues until patches arrive...then it will be all the better  

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heeerrresjonny

To Everyone being super critical of the graphics/game:

 

I think you should try running the game on higher graphics settings...on High or Ultra, the game looks really good.  The textures aren't quite as high quality as other recent games, but they are CLEARLY much, much better that what is possible on the 360.

this video shows it well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o921p4TIzH4#!

It looks way better than Oblivion too.

Stop being so dramatic, it is a great game and the graphics looks really good on PC.

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Gezzer

Maybe you and I are the only ones able to run it on high? Because I'm with you the game looks great. I have seen a couple of graphical bugs, but nothing too bad. Over all again I'm impressed. I'm finding it hard to stop playing and wait till I get my new graphics card. Well hopefully we will see the new ones in January. :)

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JohnP

The main Skyrim Folder comes with only administrators rights to change stuff so I would be unable to change files. Right click on the (x86)/The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim folder. Select Properties then Security. Click Edit and click on all the empty boxes in Users and TrustedInstaller. Click apply and the pesky "cannot save" becuse of Administration rights" will go away.

The  Skyrimprefs.ini ifle is the only file under the Skyrim folder.

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noobstix

Bethesda really missed the mark on having a game that would erase our minds of the crashtastic games like Oblivion and the 2 Fallout games.  It doesn't help when the new Creation engine is based off the old Gamebryo one (which was the cause for all the technical and gameplay issues).  I think some people would want to "console" their way through this game and forget about the "infinite quests".  Bethesda might as well make this game open-source and hand it over to the people who can mod this game to be playable.

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Andacious

Haha, the guy looks like Emperor Palpatine

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t.y.wan

Inventory, vendor, melee combat, monster unstuck patches soon? XD

This game... feels like Fallout3 in DirectX11, plays like Fallout: New Vegas (especially the loading screen with FRAPS) and seems to have the RAGE problems shipped with it...

Overrated? Obviously.

Teh good thing is, the magic looks really nice, though looking nice doesn't mean it's super awesome effective or anything. Running and using magic in 3rd person is just ridiculous looking...

It's like, Fallout 4: Skyrim MOD!

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

"sluggish framerate and eliminate instances of mouse lag"

Really? Now they can't use the excuse that this game pushes the boundaries yada yada yada .... It's made to run on a five-year old console.

They just did a shit port. And they don't care.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Your before/after shots are reversed.

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Dartht33bagger

Just go into the console and type "fov XX" where the XX is the number that you want.

 

Also, this game looks amazing.  Best game of the year in my mind.

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Danthrax66

bethesda is lucky MW3 came out or I would give this game most overrated game of the year. It's Oblivion with dragons, doesn;t look much better than Oblivion and is a bad console port on the PC (menus that you use the arrow keys to navigate instead of clicking, crashing unless you run the audio at a specific setting, looks like a 360 game). Not worth $60, at least not right now.

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mattman059

doesn't look much better than Oblivion : You must not have a very good PC...mine looks 10x better than Oblivion
menus that you use the arrow keys to navigate instead of clicking, : I dont seem to have a problem clicking in the menus
crashing unless you run the audio at a specific setting, : That's just one possible solution, lots of people are having other issues
looks like a 360 game : I dont know too many xbox360 games that look this good.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

I was looking at it on my kid's XBox, and I thought it looked a LOT like Oblivion. I didn't see much growth, other than the detail of character faces.

But, Oblivion kicks ass, so saying that the new game is much the same isn't really all that bad.

Too bad the PC got yet another crappy port. Bethesda should be ashamed, really. Bitch is that they are never in a hurry to patch their games. They just don't care.

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US_Ranger

1) Wait for sale

2) Wait for mods

3) Buy game cheaper and have nice mods that enhance gameplay/visuals

 

That's my strategy for all Elder Scrolls/Fallout games. 

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FrancesTheMute

Thank you for this!  I only played a few minutes last night after it unlocked on my Steam account.  Going to check out these tweaks when I get home.

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