How to Build Your Own Hackintosh

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neal123

Sometimes I sound like I’m arguing, when I’m actually not. I just have a way of putting my posts stronger than intended.It’s easier to keep out of the conversation and not take the chance of being misunderstood.

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nandu312

instead of core 2 duo, could one can have this setup in core 2 quad ? and what about i7 core processors? 

P.S. will nvidia geforce 9400 GT work too ? 

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TheViper

I successfully built a Hackintosh for my daughter in college who is a Communications major for LESS money then what was quoted in this article. It all comes down to taking your time and knowing how and where to shop for your parts! (Which by the way, in case you were wondering, all the components are NEW)

Thanks MAX PC. She now can have her Video Production team over to her dorm when needed to work on projects with Final Cut instead of being subjected to 1.5 hours of time blocked off at 10:00 pm or later in a Mac lab.

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aka-none

I compared my mac pro (before I bought it) dual quad xeon E5440, and it was $50 more to by the apple machine. Xeons are not free dude.

So what do I get with the apple? NO incompatibilities with cards, drivers, or software. I got tired of the few hundred I saved in building my own windows machines in exchange for always having to putz with it every-time someone came out with a driver upgrade.

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JohnMD1022

It turns out to be all phony. $10 worth of hardware coupled with unauhtorized use and sale of Open Source software.

Here's the  lowdown:

http://tinyurl.com/lh7mem

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TheViper

Has anyone built a Hackintosh using a Core 2 Quad Processor? If so, are there any "glitches" or certain things to look for on the install of the software?

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cretony38

and 8 gig thumb drive will work for booting from a targeted disk for this install. So if I build a Hackintosh can I run it with parrellels and boot from XP Win7 and OSX?

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gendoikari1

I think you can put OSX on an AMD rig, but not with vanilla OSX. You have to download a modified installer (the only name I remember is iDeneb), and run that instead the OSX install disc. An added bonus is that the EFI-X dongle thing is not needed if you use the modified installer.

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gendoikari1

And also, the Apple Tax is evident when my Alienware Aurora costs the same as a stock Mac Pro, yet manages to kick its ass (except RAM).

Mine:

Phenom II x4 925@2.8 GHz

NVidia GeForce GTX 295

750 GB HDD

4GB DDR2-800

$2500 

 

Mac Pro:

Intel Xeon @2.66 GHz

NVidia GeForce GT 120 (I believe a GeForce 9500)

640 GB HDD

3GB DDR3-1066 

$2500 

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boarder428

These Hackintoshes are interesting, I've been thinking about building one for a while but still researching.  Building your own pc is a very exciting and fun hobby in my opinion!  Currently all my pc's dual boot with some version of windows and Linux.  Learning multiple os's is fun and I think it's time to give Leopard a try.  I was wondering what the install order would be to tri-boot W7, Leopard, and Ubuntu since installing Ubuntu changes boot loader to "Grub"!  Can grub boot Leopard as well?  Of course Windows is always first but which would be second in the line up Leopard or Ubuntu?

 Second off, I don't quite understand the efi dongle thing, as "nate5532 - Hack Mack" states you don't need the dongle.  I thought the dongle was necessary for hardware communication?  If I read his post correctly he's just installing the os's on seperate HD's and choosing which drive to boot to thru the Bios?

Anybody have any Input on this?

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azkoncept6

Now if only maxPC can write an article on hackintoshing a netbook... Imagine that!

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fuzz_64

It's a very interesting concept but would Apple try to sue users who have OSX on a regular PC since the OS is licensed for Mac computers only?

It's kinda like how  Apple is now blocking Palm Pre's from using iTunes to sync since they are not ipods.

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Grim_Reaper

I have successfully installed OSX86 on various PC desktop and laptop makes, models, and configurations including Uno SSE2, SSE3 and Duo Intel processorized ones.  One nice thing about converting a PC into a Hackintosh/Frankenmac is that, for equivalent hardware, the PC runs the MacOS and compatible software faster than a real Mac.  Some are more OSX and Mac software compatible than others due to the motherboard and other hardware they use.  Drivers are a big problem and they usually get broken with each iteration of the MacOS.  When a Hackintosh/Frankenmac is running well with the desired software, it is wise to leave it alone and be happy that it does what you want with little or no problems and not update to the newest MacOS iteration.  Most people aren't able to get a Hackintosh/Frankenmac working because they're consumers, not creators, and should buy a Mac, even a used one, which runs the Mac software needed such as Final Cut Express or Pro, or similar software which has no PC equivalent. 

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Gutter96

As an owner of an EFI-X rig. I will say this. My machine is FASTER than a Mac with similar specs, easier to upgrade than a Mac & cost WAY less than a similar equipped Mac. Apple won't "brick" these units because they don't care. They are still selling you a copy of OS X. Plus the install base for this device is for people who like to tinker with hardware, not every Tom, Dick & Harry on the block. Most people just buy an Apple Mac because they want the warm, fuzzy feeling of Justin Long's Kool-Aid going down their throats. They are either too lazy, or too stupid to learn how to use Windows properly. I currently run OS X and Vista on my EFI-X rig, and I really like being able to choose my OS without having to pay the "Mac Tax".  Oh, and another thing. To they guy who said "just buy a low end Mac for $699 or a nice new Mac laptop for $999", show me where to buy a dual core, Intel Mac running Leopard with descrete graphics, 4GB RAM & a 22" LCD for that price... Just food for thought.
 

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nekollx

 or just point them further down thsi blog where i speck out a IMac and Mac Pro Tower with comparible specs and show the apple tax is nite black text.

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Comb0Breaker

Not all PC manufactures are cheaper than the Apple models.  A few months ago there was an article here on how Lenovo was the first "real" PC manufacture to ship the new Intel Xenon processors, but they Lenovo are pricy. a 2.66Ghz D20 is more than the Apple MacPro base model.

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ujx385

Ok guys by my math this rig is aproching 900 bucks. Why not just but a low end mac for 600 or a nifty bottom of the line mac laptop for  999.

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nekollx

Read down, i posted the specks for Apple of a simerally specked Imac and Mac Pro Tower.

 

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Stinky Fartface

$235 seems a lot to risk on a device that could potentially be broken with a firmware update. What assurance is there that the EFIX cannot be bricked by Apple?

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nekollx

To be faira firmare update could brick that $250 video card, that $100 HDD or the $240 CPU chip.

 

Theirs always the risk of a firmware brick.

 

 

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ween23

i dont care about macs. i dont know if any PC geeks will ever bild one. EFI-X dongle is $235.. i would use it to up grad to a better Video card.

 

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majorsuave

I might be interested in acquiring a Mac PC without OS X installed. I could then use the good looking hardware to run Win XP and Linux as dual boot system.

 

I see no reason at all to install OS X on an otherwise perfectly fine PC. I rather have choice when it comes to third party apps and parts.

 

And then there`s games.

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k11k

With the price of the parts provided, its a lost cause. I just built a medium powered PC/MAC that does what?, NOTHING. Atleast with PC it can still play games. Why not try and give us a way to truly build a low cost MAC, oh wait its called LINUX.

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nate5532

Low cost mac?  Get a dell mini 10 laptop for $400 new.  100% osx compatible out of the box.  see http://www.osx86project.org/ and look for a guide.

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nekollx

Just did a quick check for a comparable iMac (will do the pro tower next)

20 inch iMac (smalest one you can get new right now)

2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

2GB memory

320GB hard drive

8x double-layer SuperDrive

NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics

$1,199.00 

 

edit: add a addition 175 to upgrade fro ma 320 GB hd to a 1 TB drive.

 

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nekollx

pro tower

One 2.66GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (i7)

3GB (3x1GB)

NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB

One 18x SuperDrive

1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s x2

no dispaly

no wifi

$2,899.00

 

 

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nate5532

A few things about this article

 I built a hack-mac over a year ago and for $700 I had components that rivaled the $2500 mac pro.  Overall, installation went smoothy.  I used a kernal patches and such instead of a retail copy (which is on my list of things to buy, it is well worth the $$).  I just wanted to test it before I dropped the coin on the software.  Dual boot with windows was a pain in my ass, but it works.  Install windows first, it is a partition hog.  I reccomend using 2 hard drives.  The EFI-X thing is cool, but only if you are rich or not computer savvy.  I don't have a fancy dual boot interface come up when I boot, I just hit F12 and select the drive of the OS I want to load.  

This article is inaccurate about one thing tho.  AMD chips are well capable of running OSX with the right software, please refer to www.osx86project.org/ - they include wiki's of what hardware is compatible.  A little research can save you headaches and $$ in the long run. It is not, however, compatible with a retail install to my knowledge.

Also on osx86's wiki, there are a couple of laptops (the dell mini 10 comes to mind) that the hardware is 100% compatible with osx, making the install a snap, and they start at $400!  Not much more money than the EFI-X, lol.   Another option is to purchase a preinstalled desktop box starting at $599 at http://store.psystar.com/featured/open3-osx.html.

Happy Hacking!!!

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ericmckenna

Since it's unlikely that someone would only need to buy the dongle, Whats the final cost of the components? 

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horzo

I come up with about $900 assuming 2GB RAM and using some slightly different (but compatible) components than suggested here. In other words, it would be cheaper to buy a Mac Mini if all you wanted was a cheap OS X box to play around with.

This method just gives you much better hardware for less than Apple would charge.

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randall-stross

Great article. I always wanted to build my own mac...

 

Randall Stross

http://enhilex.com

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gxc90

I was wondering if there is a spec sheet for the "Hackintosh" PC using AMD processors (Athlon x2, Athlon II x2, Phenom, Phenom II). and if this USB device is available in Canada?

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nekollx

 READ T?HE FUCKING ARTICLE

Appel is run on intel, the X chip has a list of compatible hardware.

 

How hard is it for you to grasp "no you cant make a hackitosh with amd" unles you want to go the old "i can't patch" route

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Tclynch

Wow, let me know where your buying your Macs as everywhere I look they're WAY overpriced.

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arkweld

but you know what else is?

Almost every gaming system reviewed by MPC or put out by Voodoo, Alienware etc.

$8000 for a BFG gaming rig? Who the hell buys that stuff? Any gamer who uses a PC should be building his own machine.

At least when you buy a Mac you are getting custom hardware. Most "gaming" PCs use off-the-shelf parts and cases that have just been painted a better color.

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fuzz_64

Ummmm.. FYI I pulled the RAM and hard drive out of a Macbook and used it in a clients Lenovo laptop.. there's nothing custom about it except the motherboard.

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mesiah

lmao custom hardware. Just because apple designed their own cases you call that custom hardware? Take a look inside. Its the same crap that everyone else puts in their machines. We arent in the days of motorola processors anymore. It's all Intel and nvidia under the hood of that expensive mac. Its no more custom than an HP or a dell.

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Khaled

I dunno, ever since Apple switched to intel I don't see the "price difference" between Macs and PCs.

When I bought my T7400 based macbook pro over 2 years ago I went online and compared it to similarly specced windows-based notebooks (notice SIMILARLY SPEC not comparing a pentium dual core to core 2 duo, a T7000 to T9000 etc so those MS laptop hunters ad are just fooling the consumers) when I compared the MBP to similar machines by ASUS and SONY I actually found that the MacBook Pro cost the same and sometimes less!

Now it's been 2 years and I never needed to format this machine to "speed it up" in fact with every mac osx update (including a full OS upgrade) it got improved (software improvements of course, software update actually improve it).

The price argument is false (assuming you are comparing brand new machines of course) since 2007.

 

Excellent guide by the way, I might get me one of those chips because I don't want a Mac Pro Xeon machine 

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horzo

Uhhmmm... no.

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foamcup

Nobody has to format a machine to 'speed it up'.  All those people who format and re-install once a month are idiots.  My mom has been running the same XP install for 7 years and it runs fine.

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DOOMHAMMA

Your data is 2 years old and you are not a market analyst. Congratulations on irrelevancy.

 

Excellent article anyway, even here the price problem exists in the do-it-yourself mac. As you have to drop $235 on a device that makes it all happen.

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zippzom

But its on the lower end (macbook) that macs are far more expensive. The Macbook pro and Mac Pro are relatively decent deals, but the Imac and the Macbooks are ripoffs. Try configuring a 13" laptop on the dell website, and even with discrete graphics and a 15" screen it'll still be cheaper.

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nekollx

Actually the Mac Pro tower is a rip off as well, 2 GB of ram from Apple is more then a Netbook! but go to say MacGurus or Newegg and its half that. Wich is still twice the PC component.

Wish i had this article a year ago, could have saved the company a bundle for our office mac.

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Coming soon to Lulu.com --Tokusatsu Heroes--
Five teenagers, one alien ghost, a robot, and the fate of the world.

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zippzom

ya, but workstations from Dell or HP are just as overpriced. 

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zippzom

ya, but workstations from Dell or HP are just as overpriced. 

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nekollx

Ten grand for a 2x3 ghz intela quad xeon, 8 gb of ram, and 3 HDDs? Somehow i don't think Dell is Quite that bad.

 

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Coming soon to Lulu.com --Tokusatsu Heroes--
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zippzom

same price as mac pro (kind of)

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nekollx

 Dell Precision T3500:
Dell Precision T3500, CMT, Standard Power Supply T3500 1 [224-4422] 1Operating System:
Genuine Windows Vista® Business Bonus 64 -Windows XP Professional downgrade XP6VBDP 1 [310-9161][468-1225] 11Energy Efficiency Option:
No Energy Star NOESTAR 1 [330-3201] 25Processor:
Quad Core Intel® Xeon® W3540 2.93GHz, 8M L3, 4.8GT/s Turbo W3540 1 [317-0126] 2chassis configuration:
Mini-Tower Chassis Configuration MT 1 [311-7463] 15Memory:
6GB, 1066MHz, DDR3 SDRAM, ECC (3 DIMMS) 6G3E663 1 [317-0110] 3Hardware Support Services:
3 Year Basic Limited Warranty and 3 Year NBD On-Site Service Q3YOS 1 [992-9102][993-3200][993-9038][993-9047] 29Graphics:
256MB NVIDIA® Quadro® NVS 295, DUAL MON, 2 DP NVS295 1 [320-7899] 6Graphics Cables:
1 DisplayPort to DVI (Single Link) Adapter DVIS 1 [330-4085] 26Hard Drive Configuration:
C2 All SATA drives, No RAID for 3 Hard Drive SATA3 1 [341-8995] 9Hard Drive Controller:
Integrated Intel chipset SATA 3.0Gb/s controller NSASCTL 1 [341-9289] 24Boot Hard Drive:
300GB SATA, 10K RPM Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst Cache™ 300S102 1 [341-8836] 82nd Hard Drive:
500GB SATA 3Gb/s with NCQ and 16MB DataBurst Cache™ 500GSA 1 [341-8581] 233rd Hard Drive:
500GB SATA 3Gb/s with NCQ and 16MB DataBurst Cache™ 500STA 1 [341-8581] 54CD-ROM, DVD and Read-Write Devices:
16X DVD-ROM with Cyberlink Power DVD™ DVD16 1 [313-7458][420-9179] 16Monitor:
No Monitor NMN 1 [320-3316] 5Floppy Drive and Media Card Reader Options:
No Floppy Drive and No Media Card Reader NFD 1 [341-5255] 10Resource DVD:
No Resource DVD NORCD 1 [330-4024] 27Shipping Packaging Options:
Shipping Material for System SHIP 1 [330-3209] 40Speakers:
No Speaker option NSPKR 1 [313-2663] 18Keyboard:
Dell QuietKey Keyboard QUSB 1 [330-3203] 4Mouse:
Dell USB 2 Button Optical Mouse USBO 1 [330-3945] 12Documentation:
Documentation, English, with 125V Power Cord DOCENG 1 [330-3156][330-3157] 21

$3,090

 

When we got the compariable Mac early 2008 it cost roughly twice that.

 

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Coming soon to Lulu.com --Tokusatsu Heroes--
Five teenagers, one alien ghost, a robot, and the fate of the world.

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