The Dream Machine Revealed--Part One of Three!

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theqman

Actually, I would think two monitors to be pretty normal. Right now I'm surrounded by six (two 24", four 19") but I quickly found that the motion of extreme Left to Extreme right got VERY hard on the neck. I haven't used two of them since the first week I set it all up. Still... only ONE monitor? For a "dream" machine? Seriously, while you're playing [fill in favorite monitor filling game here] what are you using to look up stuff on the net', watching your video cams around the house, seeing new email coming in, etc.? (true, that's what I use the two 19" monitors (on a 2nd system for).
But I applaud the Microsoft keyboard. I had really gotten to like the "natural" keyboard layout and was shock and saddened when my black PS2 gave out during a rousing LAN of Diablo II. The G15 I have now lights up the keys nice and pretty but it's a PITA to use just like all other '102 key layout' boards. I can already feel my hands and fingers urging carpal to join them. Plus I have yet - 2 years later- to use ANY of the 18 extra "macro" buttons.

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TheMurph

I have nothing against two-montor configurations.  It's what I use at work, actually.

The question was in reference to two thirty-inch panels.  Fun as that would be, I think I would actually go crazy after a short amount of time.  Diminishing returns and all.

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franktank

If you don;t mind me asking, what are you using to drive all six monitors? Is it an Matrox product by chance? If so, how do you like it?

I have a need for a minimum of four monitos and a max of six so I'd be very interested in hearing the detials of your setup.

 

Cheers,

Frank from Tulsa

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TheMurph

Perhaps... Displaylink?

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linuxcrazy

That picture of the MPC staff staring at it is so hilarious. Classic.

Very nice looking DM I'm sure it will be as awesome as it sounds.

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mikkokilla

I agree, the keyboard should have been a Logitech that way you get rid of the second input reciever. I never liked Microshaft products to begin with anyway.

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franktank

It's got to be solid-state on the big secret. It is a dream machine after all so it only makes sence.

 On the RIAD 5... dont do it. Go RIAD 0 and use the VelociRaptor x 8 disks. As for data security, just do a back up weekly or daily to a USB, Fireware, esta or something. If I was building a dream machine that's what I would do anyway.

Cheers,

Frank from Tulsa

 

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horzo

I've gone RAID 0 with a daily backup to external myself, but with only two drives. Reduces the potential for disaster a good bit.

The performance is great, but there's no way I'd even consider this strategy if I had a lot of large files I absolutely couldn't lose. As it is, my total backups only amount to around 200GB, and any given backup is probably moving less than 400MB.

RAID 1 or 5 is the more sensible option for most people.

 

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TheMurph

Your plan:
8x Velociraptor drives
$2,400
2.4 terabytes of storage

To borrow a phrase from OJ, this is how I'd do it instead:
2x Velociraptor drives
$600
600 GB of storage

3x Terabyte drives
$~600
3.0 terabytes of storage -- 2.5 for media, .5 for backing up the system-critical files of the VR array.

Total cost:  $1,200
Total storage: 3.6 terabytes
Total speeds: *thumbs up*
Total number of heart attacks from one drive in an 8-drive array failing: zero

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franktank

I think that IS how you guys are going to do it except you will use solid state drives for the OS / Boot drives.

Does Maximum BS have stats on how much you gain speed wise by expading raid 0 past two drives? Myabe you can cover that in the next podcast.

 :)

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TheMurph

We don't have detailed statistics per se, but we did run a brief comparison between a single Raptor, two RAID 0 raptors, and four RAID 0 raptors in one of our epic RAID features.

And here's how that drive performs against single and RAID 0'd Velociraptors.

And here's how Veloricaptors and SSDs stack up, RAID and non-RAID.

And here's a picture of a bunny to sooth you after all that data analysis.

We'd cover RAID more in the podcast, but I've been told that extended conversations about RAID might very well put eager listeners to sleep.  A shame.  RAID is exciting to me.

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The Highest Power

My money's on three OCZ 128GB SSDs in RAID 0.

And here's a question: Would it be possible to boot from a RamSan 2TB flash drive through a fiber channel card?

http://www.superssd.com/products/ramsan-500/indexb.htm

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agenttatsuda

i doubt SSD's will be used. They consume lots of power and are not good for large file transfers.

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TheMurph

Three words:  price-to-performance.

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franktank

I see. Dream machine on a budget. It's not just to most outlandish / expensive rig you can slap together with bleading edge parts but more of a best ot the best with in reason to get at or near bleading edge performance.
Given that... I would suspect SSD won't be in for this year.
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TheMurph

Nope.  Not on a budget, just "with sensibilities."  While it would be ass-kicking awesome to run a rig with, say, five solid-state drives and a $1,000 RAID card, it would also be a bit absurd.

While one could certainly argue that our choice of parts this year might be borderline crazy, we have to draw the line somewhere.  Our CPU and video card choices?  Totally fine.  Using $10,000 worth of storage?  Getting strange.

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the_river

Got one myself. Built my new rig based on some of the parts off of last year's DM. I need to tweak the two buttons better (useless right now because I've pretty much got the sensativity on the main default mid config the way I want it for ever app). But you can run this thing on any surface (save for glass, of course...a little tricky there).

I moved my PC into the living room with my 1080p HDTV, and I haven't had the time to pick up a USB extender so I play on a bean bag and with the mouse on the rug...works like a champ and I can frag away. Surprisingly comfortable...though I need it on the table for better accuracy.

Love it!

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Dostovel

The Logitech G15 should have been the keyboard for sure!!

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brokenmoth08

Amen

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Skiplives

Agreed, personally I don't like split keyboards.

On another point, does RAID 0 even do anything for a SSD?  I'm thinking about one for a build, mostly to load the OS and the game de jure.  I don't think I'd get two even if it helped, but there is nothing physical to search, so would it really help?

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