8 Things We Hate About Windows 8

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sladeofdark

what is it with the WORDY writers on this site. Someone needs to read over these articles and tell these kids to stop trying to be clever.

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TheMurph

Low blow.  You get a ton of bullet points on the second page.

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Rift2

I like them =)

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Mithril PC

Any word on DirectX 12?
I wouldn't be surprised if M$ released DirectX 12 exclusively on Windows 8 just like they did with Vista and dx10.

I'm sick and tired of M$ and their goat/consumer antics.

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Biceps

Lol, no. Windows 8 is only going to have advertisements for DirectX12, you will have to purchase the upcoming expansion pack and then give it access to your facebook account to actually use DX12. ;)

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ozium101

I hope I'm not stepping on my own johnson here, since I have been following MPC since boot, but have never posted. But this article along with my 5-day experience with Windows 8 kind of screamed at me on my own issues. I installed Thursday evening and it was so bad that I reimaged my laptop yesterday.

Granted, I joined my install to a domain so I could test a few of our apps. I am really hoping Windows 8 Professional will give some (much) better options more like Windows 7 for configurations.

For several of the Metro apps to run, UAC must be turned on. UAC is the first thing we turn off on all new PCs in our office. That may be "bad" but it's what we do. So with UAC now turned on (at the lowest setting), there are three of our main apps that install in such a way that whenever the app is started, I get the "are you sure you want to run this?" box. No can do - our users would give us more hell than we'd know what to do with.

Out of the "box", press delete on a file or icon and it's just gone. There is no confirmation. I have stupid users (they stay that way no matter how much training). This will get old quick. We don't use images for our new machines because we can't standardize, so we configure each as they come in. We aren't a large company, but the extra step of going into the Recycle Bin properties to turn on this "feature" is just extra work for us.

I love my Start Menu and being able to customize it. I setup all of our PCs for Computer and Control Panel to expand. It's much quicker to get to. Now there are too many steps just to get to the CP.

And come on, 6 clicks to shutdown or restart? Two clicks in Win 7 for shutdown, 3 for restart.

I also agree that the Metro UI is yugly - and cumbersome, especially that one has to right-click just to get to All Apps, so again, 3 clicks just to get to a list of all apps instead of one. And then listing every single icon for each app instead of them being in expandable folders makes the interface almost unbearable. No, I take that back - it IS unbearable.

Lastly, and this most likely (I hope) is due to not having a driver specifically written for 8, every time I opened the lid on my laptop and got logged in, I had to restart the machine just for wireless to fully reconnect. Every time I got back in, I got "limited" connection with no Internet. This is on two different routers at home and 3 WAPs at work as well as a wireless hotspot at my coffee shot and the hotspot from my Razr.

I told my boss that if we have to, we will buy many, many extra copies of Windows 7 in 18 months just to get through to the next version, just to be safe from when the time comes that MS decides OEMs can't sell new machines with 7.

/rant over

Thanks for listening.

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majorsuave

I doubt that Microsoft will sell an OS that only uses the Metro UI. If they do, people will skip the upgrade

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misterz100

Looking at the history it always seems to go from a shitty OS to an awesome OS...maybe this is some messed up marketing scheme for when they have windows 9 it will be god and people will "say 8 was shit, 9 is what you want" just like(98 over 95?) XP over ME or 7 over vista...beginning to see a pattern here... if it continues we can safely say that windows 10 will also blow and 11 will rock XD

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Keith E. Whisman

I'm sure they aren't following this pattern as a marketing scheme because there would be a lot of pissed off investors and board members. It's more likely they are trying to put in a lot of changes and features that they later learn people hate just to fix the problems with the next version of Windows. Like Vista sucked because it was bloated and 7 Kicks ass because it's not bloated, but 8 removes too many features and Windows 9 will probably restore or replace the missing Windows 8 features.

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Keith E. Whisman

After trying out Windows 8 for a few days I must say that on my laptop or home desktop computer Windows 8 just plain sucks ass. I ended up going back to Windows 7 Ultimate. My next purchase will be a touch screen all in one computer and I would love to have Win8 on that. Also I would love to have a tablet with Win8 on it. But as for my desktop machine, I just can't easily do what comes super easy in all other versions of Windows except for perhaps versions that came before Windows 95.

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Mithril PC

The one, and only one, thing I like about metro is the easier accessibility of administrative tools. You can right click the bottom left corner, or in the actual metro interface go as an adminstrator to

bottom right corner > settings > settings > slide the show administrative tools

Bottom right corner as part of a file path seems sacrilegious to me.

Then move them to the first screen and you can see them when you start up.

No more having to tell my relatives... ok hit windows key + r... then type msconfig... MS What now?

The other thing that makes me laugh is that Windows 8 is labeled as 6.2.8250 in the command prompt... They didn't raise the 6 to 7 as has been the tradition in past NT release. They only raised the former 6.1 (win7) to 6.2! Honestly they could pull an Apple and just charge $4.99 for the freaggin metro ui!

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biggiebob12345

Because having to do 30 clicks to change something other than your wallpaper is WAY better than Win+R and one word.

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igoka

Here is an article how to disable metro and get start button back
http://www.pcstats.com/NewsView.cfm?NewsID=97794

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livebriand

Fyi, the RPEnabled registry hack from the Developer preview does NOT work on the consumer preview. I tried it.

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TheMurph

That says nothing about how to disable Metro.  Sorry.

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guntlager

The one thing that Microsoft cannot avoid is the fact that most of the users that they are chasing do not have to use a Microsoft product. That is especially true for tablet buyers.

If Metro's crappy reputation gets around less copies will be sold, hence another Windows ME or Vista. After following the iPad event this morning I wonder if the Windows 8 Team isn't secretly working for Apple!

As it stands now I see very few reasons to upgrade either my laptop or desktop to Windows 8 and I see a whole bunch of reasons not to.

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imagonex

My biggest pet peeve: "Bring on the Advertisers". Nothing wrong with selling one's ware. However, what can be an issue is shoving or forcing a product down the consumer's throat and trapping them into an enclosed ecosystem. Privacy might also be something to worry about. Datamining now is a lot more sophisticated. Consumers should be a lot more vigilant and aware of this. Hopefully, they offer the consumer a clear and easy option to shut-off some aspects of the software.

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Cregan89

Right-click > Uninstall

Done.

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Penterax

You keep using the word "prettier" in some relation to Metro I must not understand, because Metro is just yugly to me (Yugly - you'-glee, as in "so ugly it's beyond ugly, it's yugly").

I still fail to understand what most "apps" do that a bookmark in a browser can't do, or certainly what an icon on your desktop can do. Putting that little button in a square - okay, I get that, for tiny screens or just for those that like squares or rectangles and making icons look like little buttons you can push - but it does absolutely nothing for me. There's not a reason in the world I couldn't just touch my icon instead of a big, ugly, square, if the OS were made that way.

The looks of Win 8 Metro bring back a statement I read in an article some time back, made by a system security pro (I'm sorry I can't remember her name at the moment). Basically, she said she used a Mac over a PC because, even though the PC was inherently more secure, PCs were made for people that were "esthetically challenged". In other words, she couldn't bring herself to use a PC because she thought Windows PCs were too ugly.

Now, there have been plenty of ugly Apple computers, there are very nice looking boxes and displays for the PC, and Vista and Win 7 brought a much nicer looking user interface to Windows, so I didn't agree with her, even though I knew what she meant (Vista was out at the time, so her opinion was "dated"). Metro, on the other hand, puts me firmly in agreement with her, and I have to wonder if they fired everyone with any sense of artistry at Microsoft before they started working on Metro.

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ariesking

Amen to all that. I can understand the whole square tiles IF you actually make them "live" and fill them all with information regarding the app. But a big square with a tiny icon or words in it?? On top of that, talk about some ugly, crude icons (ie...the maps icon)! And wtf is that ugly ass fish they put on the desktop...I mean, come on! I can't for the life of me understand why this company has such a hard time with aesthetics. I mean some of this stuff is just design 101....I can go on and on...smh.

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HeroOfCanton

Agree 1000%, and I LOVE Metro on my Zune HD. This looks like a clown threw up on the screen.

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DoctorX

Thank you MaxPC! Thjs spells out exactly the issue I have with Win8. Good job for being objective about it.

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SkinnyZeroOne

Could not have said it better gents ...
After installing it on a virtual machine like 3 hours after the download became available - I installed it on its own SSD the following day.(Couldn't get the resolution right on Virtual Box -- the Display adapter would not install correctly)
I found the desktop - automated the password thing all on my own 'cause it works the same as in W7 ---- & fixed the resolution issue. All the hardware is good with the exception that I cannot enable SLI (2xGTX460s - & the latest nVidia 295.73s).
I screw around with it once or twice a day now but my gut feeling is 'WTF ??' --- & as you guys said - 'Where the heck am I?'
Dunno - I just dunno what the hell Redmond is thinking with this Metro interface on a desktop PC?

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T0mmy1977

Had the same issue. I just ended up doing the dual boot, and it it worked very well!

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anagramsolver

I learned well enough from the Windows ME and Windows Vista debacle. It is a given now that every other MS OS will suck.

I will be skipping every other MS OS that is released. I have Windows 7 now and will not upgrade until whatever comes out after Windows 8 is available.

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sirnotapearing

hopefully the will get the os to the point where multitasking is possible.

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AnUnknownSource

"Closing apps without always having to use our keyboard (Metro)."

Not sure if it's documented anywhere, but if you hover over the top middle of the app near the edge of the screen, and the cursor turns to a hand, you can drag it to the bottom right corner of the screen and the app closes...

Other than that, I agree with the hates... maybe articles like this will spur some last minute changes.

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TheMurph

A point that I mention early on in the article.  To clarify, I was more speaking to the lack of a big ol' "close" button in Metro.  Or, you know, that box-like thing with the x in it.  Mmm.

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tony487

You mean the apps don't have the x- button? No little red x to close my app??

STUPID!

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michaelh

It's touched upon in the Cloud & Services parts, but the way an account is set up is horrible. Either you've got a local login that's bound to the machine and doesn't allow integration with MS services (a good portion of the reason someone might upgrade to Windows 8) or you're stuck using a Windows ID. In my case, I used my Hotmail address. I changed the password for my Windows login (supposedly more secure, but also because my more secure e-mail password was a pain to use for the W8CP testing). It changed my hotmail password as well. Coincidentally, for the first time I experienced a spam e-mail sent out to everyone on my contact list.

If using Windows 8, I'll plan on making a local account. Whether it's my less secure 8-letter password to blame or a fault of the OS, it's not something I want to think about during day-to-day computer use.

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