8 Things We Hate About Windows 8

81

Comments

+ Add a Comment
avatar

Volleynova

8.1 improves Windows 8 somewhat, but modern UI just needs to go.

There's nothing modern about it. There's a reason we went from 3.1 to 95, instead of 3.1 to Bob.

avatar

dschultznet

If the Metro interface is full screen, why is the OS called Windows? Where are the Windows? What a joke! Hello BOB!

avatar

DigitalNogi

Time for many of you to hand back your Power User cards.

avatar

SongEmu

For all the hatred I have towards OS X 10.7's "iOS-ification", at least Apple's melding their disparate OSes slowly, and clearly. The learning curve's not very high. Windows 8 sounds like Microsoft decided to have a threesome between Windows, XBox, and Android. Un-unified user experience and dumbing things down. Meh.

avatar

livebriand

Windows 8 is a complete piece of shit in my opinion. It's unintuitive, it's hard to find things, yuck... I'll be sticking with Windows 7 for quite a while. If I had a choice between Windows 8 and OS X, I would pick OS X. Seriously. And I'm a Windows fan!

avatar

tony487

Vista almost drove me to OS X. If I were forced to switch to Win8, I may make a complete switch. What really keeps me away is a particular piece of software, but...

avatar

winterlude

I get the impression the MS really thinks that we are living in a post PC world. I suspect the developers of Win8 are using tablets (only?) instead of PCs and think that they are "innovating" when they ignore customer criticism.
Right now, MS has the corporate and PC world and Apple has an escalating market share of the light consumption world (via the Ipad product line). It seems like MS is in such a hurry to make a play for Apple's market share (plus I'm sure they have pressure from Intel because Intel wants to push the Atom tablets and touch screen Ultrabooks in 2H 2012) that MS doesn't realize that it will piss off it's existing customer base. One would think the lessons of 95, ME and Vista would teach them, but it seems MS is well on it's way to repeating history.
I've heard whispers of how good OSX is compared to Windows, but when I try to use OSX, I feel so lost and frustrated. I hate it! And I don't want to have to learn a new OS if I don't have to. Each version of Windows since 95 has basically had the same GUI. But this move to Win8 seems as visually radical as the move from 3.1 to 95 and will have countless users lost and frustrated. Ultimately, MS was moving in the right direction, but the execution seems to be a step back and sideways before a step forward with even vs odd OS versions.
If Metro is basically a cosmetic change, then why not give users the option to use a "traditional" PC GUI or the new Metro touch GUI and be able to switch that option in the control panel anytime? That way, everybody wins, right?

avatar

siramic

"Unless you’re one of those stalwarts still clinging to Windows XP as if it was a stuffed animal from your childhood that you need to squeeze just to sleep at night." :-)
That's me with 7, even before I read this article of 8s hate list. Thanks David, you just confirmed why I won't be camping out in front of the store the night before 8s public release.

avatar

Athlonite

A friend installed this preview the other day albeit ten minutes later he was the phone to me saying what a horrid piece of sh@t this is and how somebody at Redmond should be committing harikari and the body pushed into a sty full of hungry pigs failing that just throw the WIN8 code into the sty and start again.... Ofcourse I was by this time LOLing so hard I dropped the Ph

avatar

Wareagle

I'm getting sick of UIs that like to hide things from the user. Gnome3 is an excellent example of this. Why should I have to dig through gnome-conf (or the registry on Windows) to re-enable basic things like minimize and maximize buttons, or the address bar in the file browser?

Developers, please quit treating users like we're stupid.

avatar

Penterax

I'd REALLY like to see Microsoft add a "Transition Tutorial" to Win 8, so that it is easier for people to learn how to use Metro.

One thing I've had pounded into my consciousness as a long time World of Warcraft player is how much some people can resist change. Some people will insist that something is broken when it's not because what they used to do doesn't work anymore. They just keep trying the same thing over and over, getting madder and madder because what used to work doesn't give them the results they want.

It would be great if Microsoft did everything they could to help people through the changes. Educate them. Hold their (our) hands a little bit.

;)

avatar

jonnyohio

I don't know what to make of it yet...I don't care much for metro's style but I guess if they make it so you don't have to use it ever and let you switch to it if you install the os on something with a touch screen I would probably upgrade after its been out for awhile. I won't be jumping on it as soon as it comes out though.

avatar

ResidentArse

The 8 reasons you listed are 8 of the most significant changes in the OS since....well Windows 95. I think this is a great new look for Microsoft that will successfully connect their mobile devices with desktops and PCs.

avatar

Morete

Circa 2014.

It's been a year or so now and Microsoft Windows has since been retired. One spring day while out walking on a solitary road, WebOS and MS Tiles 8 happened to meet. WebOS stops a second to greet the newcomer.

WebOS: Welcome to my world.

Microsoft Tiles 8: Thanks. By the way...where does this wilderness road lead me to?

WebOS: The road leads to oblivion.

With haste MS Tiles 8 continues ahead, alas, the road appeared to be very long.

avatar

UrbanSmooth

This is merely proof of more companies playing to the hands of the mobile market. DOH!!

Windows 7 will be my operating system until DirectX 12 is released.

avatar

Kinetic

Looks like I'll be sticking with seven for a while. No hard feelings though, since I really like what it offers anyway.

avatar

mini6090

I was waiting for this article. I apologize for my comment yesterday, these are most of the issues i have with Windows 8 and i'm glad you expressed them. The only problem i have with this article is the lack of vulgar language and profanity. Every single time i tried to find something, i'd say what the f$#%!!! Because it makes no sense why they would change something that worked perfectly. Love the point about the 2 control panels, way to go Microsoft, just confuse power-users the best you can. Now all we can do is hope for some change.

avatar

pastorbob

Really? You only came up with 8 things? This OS was a bust from the get-go for me. After jumping through hoops to figure out how to do a dual boot install guess what - It didn't work!! I said a few naughty words directed at Microsoft and crossed my fingers in hope that I could get back to my original system setup under Windows 7. Fortunately by downloading EasyBCD 2.1.2 and installing it under Windows 8 I was able to point to my original Windows 7 system, set it as the default and boot into it. I then went ahead and rebooted into Windows 8 thinking I would give it a spin. Give it a spin I did - right off of my system completely. Maybe I'm one of those old dogs that you can't teach new tricks but I think the entire look and feel sucks. Not to mention a UI that is about as intuitive as building a time machine. Even shutting down or restarting is a joke.

I could continue to rant ad nauseam but suffice it to say this version of Windows is going to get the same treatment I gave Vista. I am going to pass on it. I removed the option from the boot menu, wiped out the Windows 8 partition, and gave the space back to Windows 7. And I suspect I will use Windows 7 for seven years before a worthy replacement comes along like I had to do with Windows XP.

Sorry Microsoft. I don't mind changing or evolving but with limits. My time is way too precious to throw away all of what I know and learn a completely new way to do my work (and entertainment). If I wanted to do that I would buy an iMac.Or an iPad. Now there's a thought since the iPad 3 is now out. :-)

avatar

jonnyohio

I own an iPad 2 and an iPhone and they are neat gadgets, but to pay 3-4 times the amount for last years hardware just because apple slapped their logo on it and installed their OS (which isn't a bad OS) is just something I can not bring myself to do lol...I'm with you though; think I will just stick with win7 for awhile. I too skipped vista.

avatar

jonnyohio

Duplicate post .... Maxpc please stop showing a full screen ad during comment posting IT IS FRUSTRATING WHEN MY COMMENT GETS WIPED OUT FROM A STUPID AD I HAVE SEEN 5 TIMES ALREADY!

avatar

livebriand

When websites piss me off like that, I use ad and script blockers (Adblock Plus and Ghostery). I mentioned that on pcworld.com and they kept deleting my posts. OK, it's now guaranteed that I will NOT be disabling those blockers on your site.

avatar

Taqueed

I installed Windows 8 on a separate drive. Before doing that I changed the Boot order for my drive to boot from the empty drive. I do this all the time with Linux this is so I don't touch anything on the drive where I have Windows 7, but unlike all my Linux installs Windows 8 put the boot loader on my Windows 7 drive. Not what I wanted but no big deal. I have tested it for a few hours and think there is a huge learning curve to it. I work as a computer support specialist and I can't wait 'till the group I support migrates to Win8 we will have job security for years to come.
All I can say is What are you thinking??? The ribbon in Office is a minor change compared to this.
Maybe they are taking a tip from Star Trek the Odd numbers are good the even suck.

avatar

livebriand

The ribbon in office was a good change. Windows 8's metro UI is NOT.

avatar

chop_slap

I've been using Linux for years now. Since then, my productivity increased by an unmeasurable amount. No AntiVirus, no AntiMalware, no Defrag to use/install/deal with. Windows is good to play games, MAC OS/X is good for social media & graphics for dummies. I just want to get things done quickly, without fuss. Yeah, Linux has bugs, but guess what, so do Windows and MAC. Also Linux is free. The best thing about MAC is that its really a girlified Linux box. Too bad it costs at least 50% more than its competitors' products.

avatar

nightkiller

Just because you've just graduated from the Linux seminary does not mean that you simply fork the article to your own ends.

avatar

serper

Bill Gates had nothing to do with this release of Windows 8. Microsoft did this all by themselves and excluded Bill from the concept process. It shows, in many ways, how the teams made conceived, developed, and released this horrible upgrade.

I wish MS the best of luck in their future endeavors but I for one, am not upgrading to this platform. I am happy with Windows 7, for the most part.

-serper

avatar

Neufeldt2002

One of the things I really hate is the social integration. I know a lot of people really like that sort of thing, but with all the data mining going on, I really don't want that sort of thing happening on my desktop. And Metro is not "Pretty" it is FUGLY. F-ing UGLY.

avatar

chop_slap

Its crazy how many people are sharing their entire lives to 400 people at once, as well as letting strangers (Facebook themselves and their friends) see a lot of this information and then use it for whatever reason they deem fit. And then, like you say, integrating all that, AND THEN add that to the OS (with adverts). LOL, go MS.

avatar

Lindino08

Lets Just hope that Microsoft will make some drastic changes before the final release. I still feel like there is plenty of time to make a lot of changes that people are complaining about. If they can simply just give the option to enable or disable the metro UI and bring back the normal start menu would be a huge step in the right direction. If they know whats good for them they would be scouring the web and listen to their future users. PC's have and will be for business and productivity first. Stay with an OS that gives priority to that, then worry about apps and entertainment.

avatar

DoctorX

I for one will recommend to my mgmt not to deploy win8. We are a multinational company. I am going to recommend they stick with win7 and skip win8 unless Microsoft decides to listen to its customers.

Sad really, the excitement of Win7 is just not here with win8. The sad thing is, I would probably run it if it was free, but definately not if i shell out a couple of hundred bucks.

avatar

pinson101

I would go for a win7+ over win8.

Metro UI gets in the way.

Great boot time, I wish they could just make the win7 kernel hibernate.

I would go for it if they were using ReFS. Maybe I will just buy win8 server.

Driver extender FTW!!!

Love the new desktop look (all the little tweaks are spot on).

IE is horrid, to be expected.

Does anyone else feel this is a more Ubuntu 11.10 experience? Complete with bugs and workarounds :)

I don't see why any of this could not just be ported to win7 in a SP.

It will be great on my phone, not on my work/gaming computer.

avatar

T0mmy1977

I agree with your conclusion. Nothing to see here.

avatar

PawBear

A chrome OS is starting to make much more sense to me. If Ubuntu could get it's Windows gaming together I'd go with it.

I've deliberately installed every Windows OS just to assist others and to enjoy them myself but this is one I will definitely skip.

This is the best billions of dollars can do?

avatar

DoctorX

Wine 1.4 just released with some impressive support and serious bug fixing... I may have to try that,

avatar

h e x e n

Yeah, Windows 8 is a pass for me. Only reason I upgraded to 7 was to take advantage of the newer DirectX.

Games are what sell me on Windows, everything else is secondary.

avatar

Belboz99

So, in essence, Windows 8 is simply Windows 7 with a bolted on tablet UI, while Windows 7 is primarily a patched up and polished version of Windows Vista, which itself is primarily Windows XP with a shinier UI???

WTF MS???

I may never have been a fan of Bill Gates, but Goddamnit, at least Microsoft made half-way decent OSes while the man was at the helm of development!!

XP was the last OS that Bill really had a hand on, before he got himself caught in a whole lot of legal hoopla with Mozilla and handing over the proverbial reigns to Steve Ballmer, who quite frankly was never a hacker or a coder, and simply has a masters in Business.

Dan O.

avatar

jonnyohio

No windows vista Is not xp with a shiny ui. Vista was a complete overhaul and windows 7 is a more polished vista. Win8 is a more polished win7 with a tablet interface bolted on which will not be a big deal to most people I don't think.

avatar

warptek2010

You can expect the usual MS practice of pricing the full versions of this fugly 'awesomeness' somewhere in the $200 range for the professional version and add another hundred for the "Ultimate" in Fugly. This is Windows 7 in drag, not just a makeup kit.

avatar

DoctorX

I decided to dust off a spare hdd and unplug my current ones to load it up on my bada$$ box. Using some of the MaxPC's tips, it can be made a little better. One thing I have to say... damn it is fast! I tried some hacking and i believe metro can be tamed a little. Stardock has start8 program that gives back the start menu and when it comes up, by default, it takes just part of the screen. Win8 will be a kick ass upgrade, providing some enterprising person kicks metro in the gnads. I had this on a old 500G sata drive and I was impressed in how quick it was.

I had a couple of glaring issues... on a two monitor system, the charm bar is on the right of the main monitor, hard to hit it. If it was say on the far right of the total screens, then possible. Right off the bat, my wrist started hurting because of the amoutn of mousing you have to do, but after adjusting the mouse settings, got it a little better. I wonder if this could be ergonomic issue i am seeing. BTW, win7 doesnt do that to me. One last one... and this would make it quite a bit better, why the fuck can I not click and drag? duh??!? I think this article nailed it there.

m$ looks like it took great pains to hide the guts of the OS from us, but I found a lot of it tonight. What I didnt try and should have is to see if the god mode link worked.

I still will probably not buy it, but if i can figure how to hack it like i did 7, then I could be talked into it.

One last thing, who came up with the fugly tiles?

avatar

Newk Yuler

Every time Windows 8 gets mentioned with "Metro UI" I immediately think of the term "metro sexual" then I get the impulse to bitch slap some faceless unknown person until they're unconscious.

avatar

Danthrax66

Pretty sure the worst thing about 8 is the ability to "start fresh" and go back to the day 1 config. TERRIBLE idea. There are going to be so many people that do that and then go "where did my programs go". That feature won't be in 9 and will hopefully be removed in a SP.

avatar

pinson101

IDK, I've had to do fresh installs for various reasons and having a button take care of it seems much easier. As long as it is hidden from the idiots then it should be fine.

But, given Microsoft's track record this should tank. Waiting for win9 is a safer bet. The have great new ideas, it just seems to take them 2 OSs to get the execution right. (Vista --> win7 for instance) I just wish the bad ones weren't the same price as the good ones.

avatar

Supall

I like the whole idea of resetting the OS. Maybe there ought to be extra layers to prevent accidental wipes, but its a pretty damn good feature, imo.

avatar

biggiebob12345

It's as useless as System Restore IMO. No one will use it because it always fucks up.

avatar

Rift2

Wait for Windows 9 =) I just read 50% people wouldn't recommend windows 8 on another PC site. My parents just barly know how to use a computer this would really confuse the heck out of them.

I haven't tried it though =)

avatar

Dartht33bagger

No reason to upgrade at all in my mind. Windows 7 is already an amazing OS. I would be fine using Windows 7 for another 5-10 years at least.

avatar

Penterax

I had read that there would be some kernel optimization, making the overall OS a bit more efficient. There is also the new way of handling storage, which sounds like a sweet way to build a system and add to it later, something we all could be looking at if we buy/build in a few months and then want to add more SSD when the prices drop (not to mention just being easier to configure from the start). The word there seems to me to be mixed, though, and I'm not sure what will actually be better for everyone, and what will be better only if you will use Metro.

I have a system that's using Vista that I want to upgrade to Win 7 or 8 because I want to add an SSD and be able to have TRIM support - other than that though, Vista works fine and I won't upgrade the OS on that system, or replace it until after Haswell. I have another computer that will likely get upgraded (replaced) earlier - but it's already using Win 7. I was a later Vista adopter (because of personal build timing more than anything else) and it looks like I'll be a later Win 8 adopter - or skip it altogether.

All that to say I'm not sure whether I agree with you or not, it looks like things still need to shake out and solidify a bit before I'll decide. I do agree though that Win 7 is a sweet OS ride.

;)

avatar

Dartht33bagger

I like Windows 7 because its fast, lightweight, and it allows me to have the desktop I want. I like having the Vista and older style of desktop. The ONLY way I would buy Windows 8 is if I could turn off Metro and the explorer ribbon.

avatar

Chise

Finally some sanity, I have been reading a few other sites mentioning all of these great things about Windows 8 and wondering what I missed.

If they had just pushed this as their tablet/phone O/s rather than trying to push it as some advance for desktops it would maybe make sense. Do they really expect their business clients to touch this crap, if you had to train your staff how to use a new O/s why would it be this and why would you pay for it?

As for home and power users I really hope this bombs and bombs hard so they come to their senses and have Windows 9 be suited to desktops and use you know "windows".

avatar

pinson101

Exactly! This would be great for my windows phone, not as my work/gaming desktop.

Log in to MaximumPC directly or log in using Facebook

Forgot your username or password?
Click here for help.

Login with Facebook
Log in using Facebook to share comments and articles easily with your Facebook feed.