10 Practical Reasons Not to Pirate

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amidmany

I lost my health and no longer have an income to buy more than 1 or 2 titles a year. I paid thousands of dollars in software all the way back from 1980. I helped to make it what it is today when I ABLE to pay my way as responsible people do. So put yourself in my position. Do you just bow out when you can't afford it? What would you do, honestly? I bowed out, until I couldn't stand it! I would not be downloading cracked software if it was difficult or costly. Pirating will only stop when the internet is tightly regulated, like in having a license that you could lose if you violated any regulation. Do you want that? Lots of businesses do! It comes with the territory and everyone will just have to pay a little more and a little more for the right to have a free internet. So stop me if you can, if you can't you have to adjust. I can watch any movie, play any game, read e-books , comics, TV shows and music for free. Not so much as I want, but as I can. I honestly would rather be able to afford it, duh.

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pittsburg_22_m

The main motivator for pirating (for me, anyways) is monetary. I had a pirated Windows 7 installation. Worked fine. However, when I was able to pick up reasonably priced copies of Windows 7 for $50, I bought them. I figured, why not, it's reasonable. It's not $200 per copy (which is nuts).

I have two iPad 1's that are jailbroken. I download tons of pirated apps on there. But the reason I do is also monetary. 99% of the apps are garbage. I'll download them, try them, if they suck - delete, if they're good - buy. It's way easier to share with my iphones if I buy and I don't mind supporting developers. What I do have a problem with is spending money on apps that I'll delete within minutes. If there was a way to use the app for a couple days before it "shut off" in order to try before buying, i'd probably never pirate another app again.

And I guess a lot of people are talking about PC games. I don't bother with PC gaming. I have a couple 360's and about 114 games (most suck...lol). One of them is an older jtag capable but I never bothered with it. It's pretty easy to sell old xbox games but i'm assuming not so easy to sell old pc games.

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amidmany

You think consoles have not been jailbroken?

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Atech66

I'd personally like to Bitch slap every pirate out there.. your the reason we are paying 60 bucks for a game and have all these drm headaches..how the hell can anyone create a great game without revenue to support its creation. if you pirate you suck end of discussion.

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amaingone

not to pirate, hard for me and for people in my country, due the price reason.

software not cheap for most of us. I know it's not wise choice but we have not to much option. free software is not that easy.

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Holockau5t

Only thing even remotely valid is the virus issue, but uh, you can download a free antivirus/internet security app and if you have at least a litte bit of knowledge of keygens/serial look-ups/cracks you can unlock said software and easily avoiding getting phished, hacked, or swamped with viruses. fail.

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ZeroAquaduct

It's free MMOs that are killing commercial PC games, not piracy. Ever since free MMOs became serious stuff, I haven't bought a single PC game. I think the last PC game I bought was GRAW back in 2006.

League of Legends, DC Universe Online, Lord of the Rings Online, Team Fortress 2, Runes of Magic, World of Tanks, Cross Fire, etc. I can go on and on.

League of Legends alone has millions of players per day. Even a silly game like MapleStory has over a million cash shop users.

So with or without piracy, it's game over for commercial PC gaming. They're just not competitive enough.

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fanboy101

Try to pirate from reputable sites like IPT or TL, and get games from good groups like RELOADED, SKIDROW, and FLT. Chances are the games will work fine.

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KenLV

Get your stolen property from a "reputable" fence? Hmmm...interesting thinking there. Thanks, you’ve solved it!

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KenLV

Get your stolen property from a "reputable" fence? Hmmm...interesting thinking there. Thanks, you’ve solved it!

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yogalD

I pirate so I can get stuff for free, plain and simple. I don't care that the developers are losing income from it. I really don't care about them. You mad yet?

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TooManyLosers

Yey, another pathetic loser wasting oxygen

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Brad Nimbus

I'm going to attempt to be a smartass here: Ten reasons TO pirate (of course take this with a grain of salt)

1. Stability - Yes there is a chance that a crack could cause instability but that is pretty rare. Unless you grab shady warez from random sites I think this is a moot point. Skyrim (bought box copy) crashed every half hour or so because Bethesda was apparently unable to include LAA instructions. IMO its lazy and half assed. Or how about another store bought game (supreme commander) same issue. Because you buy a game doesn't guarantee stability.

2. Storage - If your anything like me you have enough storage in your system. Considering a 2tb cavier green was $90 (haven't checked price in awhile sorry) storage should not be an issue. How many 4GB Iso "backups" can you fit in 2TB's? What if you lose a store bought copy? Or a serial? I can promise developers do not give a shit about your loss.

3.Updates - This one pisses me off a great deal. I love updates and patches but when bonus content gets added that should have been there in the first place, or they make you pay for it that makes me want to download it out of spite. I bought ME2 and I love it to this day but I thought the DLC was underhanded so it entered through my ethernet cable. I know for a fact that their DLC was ready to go and they held on to it to increase profits. No one should be ok with that.

4. DRM - I think this is bullshit. Remember starforce? I won't go out of my way to download a game with DRM (my gaming days are starting to fade) I can't believe its not regulated. Its like if Ford released a vehicle saying that only you can drive it. I'm not going to get all righteous over DRM but I will never allow it to affect MY system.

5. Viruses and Malware - Most likely anyone on this site will be smart enough to avoid this. I remember my buddies back in the day catching all sorts of gnarly shit because of limewire. This doesn't bother me because there's money to be made from stupidity. (sounds harsh but hey, if your downloading Crysis and the file is 300kb you deserve to get tagged) Plus I need to make money somehow. :~)

6.No tech support - How many of you have actually had a good experience with tech support?

7.Legal issues - To be honest if I got sued tomorrow all they are getting is my GI Joes and my Tim Hortons mug. (yay Canada!)

8.Killing PC gaming - I'm so sick of hearing about this. I would hope MaximumPc would know better than this. PC gaming is dying because of the work involved with developing for different hardware configurations. If you blame piracy for the "death" of PC gaming I seriously doubt your credibility. Honestly I know more people who pirate xbox 360's than PC games.

9.Slows R&D efforts - Now I'm not a Developer but this one sounds stupid to me. I'm pretty sure when a game gets released there isn't a standing around waiting to get paid period. I'm almost certain the developers get paid before hand. This isn't fucking peace work, they have a contract.

10.You're screwing Developers - "When it comes to software, most titles represent months, if not years of someone’s daily work" This is possibly the only reason on this list that would cause me to think twice about pirating. I do realize there is a person behind the software but again I do believe they still get paid either way. I know a programmer who deals with all sorts of software. He gets paid whether or not that software gets stolen. Again I can't say its the same for these developers.

I hope this post doesn't offend anyone as I'm just trying to offer a perspective in the eyes of consumers. I enjoyed this article but it did appear that Seamus did favour Developers a great deal. If anyone would like to comment on my post please do so without being a dickhead. I love this site but sometimes the ignorance is too much. If you have something negative to say please play a buggy game in your collection that you have paid for but it has never really worked right.

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Holockau5t

EPIC, I'd say the debate is definitely in favor of piracy. If they actually showed they cared and quit trying to bs the end-user with legal nonsense and "oh you're stealing money from us!" when they push multi-million dollar titles out each year (speculating since they can speculate they lose as much) then I would say they had a valid argument, but hey don't even back their own work they just complain they didn't meet the estimated projections and blame the "free-world" or "market" because they couldn't match their greed. These are the companies I'm against. I support indie, I don't support the industry. Sorry, but f*** em.

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Brad Nimbus

I agree 100%.

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ferariman

"Honestly I know more people who pirate xbox 360's than PC games."
How does one go about pirating an XBOX 360?

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Brad Nimbus

Obviously I meant 360 games you tool. How handicapped do you have to be to not know that? Lol

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Aditum

I'd say that most of these points are based on the assumption that as soon as everybody will pay 50$ per game, the developers will suddenly become the nicest of all people, and stop trying to screw us over. Really? They will always whine, and will always blame "piracy" for their own lazyness or lack of creativity. Sure, it's nice to think what would have been if that game that had been downloaded over 1 000 000 times would bring you 50$ for every download insted. So would I like to be on a money-island filled with hookers. And yet I don't blame everything for my not being there.

First of all, if piracy wouldn't exist, at current prices it would only give them a 10%-15% sales boost max. That's the money of all the people that like the pirated software enough to buy it AND have the money to do so, but prefer not to. The rest of us don't buy the games because we can't, aren't interested enough, or simply do not care about software and games that much.

In my country we simply do not have stores that sale games or software. There's plenty that sell pirated versions in reasonable prices, and many people buy them, even though they can download the same stuff they just bought. Why? Because it's simpler, more convenient, and at THAT price, it's just not worth it to spend the time to download. But to buy a retail version? Nobody here would do that simply because the average that people make per month is ~120$. Nobody can afford to waste HALF their paycheck to buy a game. So what would happen if these people wouldn't be allowed to "steal" games from the internet? Of course they would forfeit food and instead go buy the latest Call of Duty title, because with every title it just bursts with genius new ideas.

What game developers should do, instead of wasting money making new inefficient ways to stop piracy and then whine about piracy destroying them and diminishing their work, is put it into paying programmers, designers, artists, etc. to actually make their games BETTER.

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beliha

I would add something else to the PC Gaming fiasco:

I'm quite happy that PC gaming is dead! As a matter of fact, ever since I bought the first Playstation, I happily deleted all the PC games from my home PC, and I never installed a single game on any PC I owned since then. PCs are simply not gaming platforms!

I remember the issues I had to face when purchasing PC games:

1. They don't always work out of the box. Its quite possible that any state of the art game you purchase will require some kind of hardware update, software update, or OS issues that need troubleshooting to get it working! Video cards, OS updates, direct X ...etc.. Too much trouble! When I purchase a game, I would like to know that it will work on my device the way it is supposed to out of the box!

 2. Crashes are quite prevelant. I can't count how many times I've been frustrated after playing a game for so long without saving and my PC suddenly freezes up, forcing me to restart and replay my the entire mission. Since PC game developers aren't porting to a controlled System like a console, they have to support and test an increasingly wide range of PC devices & Components & Graphics cards that might or might not work natively. Sounds cards, GPUs, motherboards, and more could easily cause incompatibility issues, while consoles are a set group of components that never change!
 
 3. I hated playing games while sitting on a desk, with a hunched back, and playing on a monitor right up in my face, while using a keyboard (and trying to remember the correct buttons I needed to press burried in the maze of Keys - did this game use WASD buttons for strafing, or the standard arrow keys? or the numerical pad, or .....)

NOTHING beats playing a game on a console while sitting back on a comfy couch, on a big screen TV, with full surround sound and a simple joypad to control it all!
To me, console games are the way games were meant to be!
PC gaming was destined to die anyways. To the writer of this article: Let it go, Dude!! Its over! Move on! Get yourself a console! There is no good reason to waste time porting games to the PC anymore!

4. Too many installed games always bogs down PCs. Save your PC for work, surfing the net, and the occasional Tetris or Solitare game. If you wanna play Crysis 2, buy a PS3! 

5. Not every person who pirated a game, intended to purchase it! As a matter of fact, the amount of people who are willing and able to purchase these games but preferred to pirate it for free constitute no more than 15-20% of pirates! 

 

I  agree with your point about being in foreign countries and not having access to original copies, and the fact that when original copies do make it into these countries, their prices are so obscenely high (especially compared to the standard of living, and duties imposed by governments) that it makes it impossible to purchase games legally!

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Holockau5t

When a console has a 6 to 8-core cpu and graphics that make you nut on yourself, then this argument will be valid, until then deal with your frame cap and pre-set unchangeable graphics. Stuck at the desk? ha, ever heard of wireless chump? ever heard of flat panel LED's that also handle hdmi (and graphics cards for pc's that have hdmi) chump? It's obvious you never really knew anything about pc gaming in the first place so yeah the console is better for ya. Crysis 2? watered down version of an epic that was ONLY AVAILABLE FOR THE PC? ha, after that statement you should kill yourself. I mean a REAL gamer, especially a pc gamer knows how to prevent everything you stated so this is like epic failure 101 and you are definitely the class president. Oh and the statistics really? Since when has statistics really been a valid argument? Too many people speculate yet have no real sound evidence, I got a pc that says your PS3 is utterly below gaming standards.

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ferariman

FLAME SHIELDS ACTIVATED.

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hackmaster

I agree with MPC. Without the onicient presence of viruses, I might be able to consider it. However, I pride myself on being a white-hat hacker, and am not about to consider pirateing anything, risk or no risk.

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RaianTheFallen

I don't know about you guys, but I have a love for the natural beauty of PC gaming. Despite the growing popularity of console, I believe that PC still rules the roost. And I'm not the only person who thinks so. If you have a love for PC gaming, or gaming as much as I do, that's inspiration enough not to pirate. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. I'm not itching to argue with a pirate over the technical definitions. When you buy something, you buy the liscence to use it. No purchase, no lisence, unauthorized, illegal.

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sladeofdark

this was weak. i pirate everything i can.

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Blackheart-1220

You've made a good point but you can't say these things to gamer that lives in a poor country and in a city that probably doesn't have video game stores.

Piracy in america is being just plain stupid. any city in the USA has about 20 gamestop stores, on top of that, the other stores that sell games like Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal Mart, Kmart, Target, EB games.

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homelessbob

That's all well and good, but i'm a homeless man. I saved for a year to buy a laptop...I'm trying to get a working editing software so I can begin to do videos for weddings...I have to download software, 'cause I dont have enough money even for food....when i can extracate myself from my present predicament, and I'm doing well again, i want to set up and organization to give  computers and software to homeless and poor. The computer today is a necesity and another source of income.

thank you

Bob

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thechipper

First and foremost. I do not pirate material from companies that I support and respect. I will not take away from the R&D of something I want to see continued development on especially since in most cases that is their primary source of income. IE favorite game studios.

 

But when we are talking about TV shows, Movies and Music the story changes. (Don't think I didn't notice you hiding from those good old friends of ours ;)) These forms of media are actually already free. I hear music on the radio, and I see Movies and Shows on TV for FREE! So why can't I download them and watch/listen to them on the internet? Not because the artists and actors take a hit, but a dinosaur of an industry that still has no idea how to adapt to VHS and CASETTES!!!! wants to rob you of dollars and cents every way they can. The internet is just the casette all over again. Unfortunately people want to steal the right that you had before and label it as illegal and piracy.

The problem isn't the people or the products. It's the distribution and leeching of profits generated through these mediums by middlemen upon middlemen.

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KenLV

“First and foremost. I do not pirate material from companies that I support and respect.”

Got it.  You are a part-time thief.  Glad you cleared that up, so it’s kinda like a hobby - instead of an occupation then.  I guess that makes it OK in your mind then??  Whatever gets you through the day.

“These forms of media are actually already free. I hear music on the radio, and I see Movies and Shows on TV for FREE!”

No, they are not “FREE”.  For example: They are advertiser supported when viewed on commercial TV/listened to on commercial radio, subscription supported when viewed/listened to via a (legit) DL service, and purchase price supported when the DVD/CD/MP3 is bought.

Without funding like the above, there is no way to pay for production, salaries, distribution, etc…  You know, all that tiresome stuff that it takes to CREATE.  Typical “maker vs. taker” debate that can not be understood by those who feel entitled.

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thechipper

In many countries including my own it is NOT illegal to download movies, music and tv shows. The government of Countries listed in this article actually study the effects of downloading these types of media only to conclude that users will spend the same amount of money on entertainment regardless of their downloading. The only research the US did was how much more money will I get from Universal if I push this bill?

The radio is free. 15 years ago I would make a casette and edit out the commercials. Give a copy to my friend. That wasn't piracy then. And it isn't now.

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KenLV

Yawn.  Same old vacuous rationalizations for bad behavior.  Actually, it would be more accurate to say there are SOME, not “many” countries that do NOT protect holders rights.  But likewise, in “some countries” it’s not entirely illegal to kill your child.  However, just as MOST countries offer protection through various copyright treaties, MOST countries will string you up by the balls for killing your kid.  So what’s your point?

Of course they will spend the same amount of money – if you have X amount of dollars to spend, that’s all you can spend.  It’s what happens next that separates the honest from the dishonest.  Some people then chose to do without what they can’t pay for and others, like yourself, steal what they can’t pay for.  Again, what’s your point?

And again, no, radio is not free.  It is advertiser supported.  You get that right?  Advertisers pay to get airplay of their commercials in-between the songs.  Songs that are produced at a cost.  What part of that is “free”?  Who in that process does not charge for their work/service?  The songwriter?  The musician?  The producer?  The DJ?  Exactly who is doing this for “free”?  Well, other than the thieves that is.

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illusionslayer

"I don't have a legitimate argument so I'll resort to arguing semantics."

What part of it is free?
Have you been in this century, lately? We have magical boxes that let us skip ads now.

Who's doing it for free?
People that create art rather than make a living.

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KenLV

I don’t know who you are quoting there, but I for one am not arguing semantics.  I realize that a person like yourself has certain moral “grey areas” that they feel the need to justify, as I DID say, that’s fine for you.  Whatever get’s you through the day.  However…

Gee really?  Magical boxes?  Wow, thanks.  First, not everyone has them, even people who do will often watch live TV - which kinda defeats the tech a bit, even when skipping it is STILL commercial supported (or subscription supported in the case of cable/sat/etc…), and ad time is actually sold now with higher pricing on “bookending” the spot, I could go on but the point remains the same and there’s nothing magical about it you silly boy.  There’s nothing magical about how that programs appear on the glowing screen in front of you.  It happens because people, earning a living, CREATED them and are PAID to produce them.  This shit ain’t free, just because someone doesn’t pay for it.  The nice thing about “broadcast TV” is that cost to the consumer is just a few seconds of their time.

“Who's doing it for free?

People that create art rather than make a living.”

First, I was asking who in THIS process is doing it free, and the answer is “no one”.  Second, LAWL.

Just one more person who’s made it clear which side of the “makers vs. takers” battle he/she is on.  No go run off and occupy your parent’s basement.

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HKUSPC40

Google is completely free... started free... still is free... and is worth billions.  Don't complain... be creative.

Prices are NOT determined by corporations... price is determined by market demand.  I learned that in high school economics... and it makes sense.  Obviously their price is too high.  The people that can pay for it are but the people who can't aren't so they pirate it.  Either pay people more or lower your price.  Perhaps not spend millions trying to prevent pirating and lower the price of your product (that's a college level class so most of you anti-piracy idiots probably won't understand that).

Let's not forget that most of this stuff is completely worthless anyways.  People lived wonderfully happy lives without any of this stuff just 20 years ago.

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Lhung

I don't pirate because, generally, I can get better software via open source than, say, Nero.

But here's two reasons I don't always say pirating is wrong:

1. Bill Gates: Personal fortune 60 billion (as just one of the Microsoft wealthy). You don't get that from selling your product at a reasonable price especially if number 2 is true.

2. I can upgrade Vista to Windows 7 basic, cost $80. Buy Windows Basic new $120. My brother just bought 200 PC's for his school 3.2 Gig chip, 3 Gig ram etc., etc. The unit price, including monitor and  with Windows 7 dealer version installed, was $250. So the version of Windows 7 on the PC is, according to normal Microsoft pricing roughly 50% of the PC's value. We all know that's absolute, try to remain a semi-monopoly Microsoft rubbish. Microsoft can virtually give it away for free to protect its monopoly and it does it by charging everyone else several times it's true value. To me that is stealing.

If companies like Microsoft have no problems in apparently, to me,  stealing, I can see no problem if someone steals from them. It's simply quid pro quo. In fact the pirate, to me, is nowhere near as underhanded and rougish as a Bill Gates. A pirate "steals" from one for one. I believe the Gates's of the world steal from millions for one.

And don't forget, if a pirate steals for themselves it's not a big deal to everyone else but if a corporation oversprices it's products, that can slow the entire world progress in computing down which I believe to be the case with Microsoft.

(Oh and R & D? Open Source is producing equal and better products for free so, as far as non-gaming software is concerned, that arguement doesn't hold up.)

 

As you say "you get what you pay for".

 

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homelessbob

I have to agree with Lhung about R&D. take VLC player for example, plays anything you put in front of it...this includes FLAC files, which that MP3 people are trying to keep hush hush, and not develop support for, because MP3 is caveman technology compared with FLACs! It's like gasoline, there is a already a much better product but the companies that make profits wont support it and they block any new advance that negates gasoline...and this is nothing new BTW, the diesel engine was a threat, because it ran with vegetable oil, so the gasoline people bought it and put petroleum based oil in it, as a mixture, with gasoline, thats why diesel engines, "knock."

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beliha

I'm not sure about MP3 people trying to kill FLAC! I know there is a difference in quality, but most people can't really hear the difference between them, including me, and I'm an Entertainment Center freak!

 I tried FLAC a few times, and now I avoid it. Quite frankly I don't think its worth the hassle, the extra size and incompatibility with most portable audio devices. 

FLAC is nice, sure, but MP3 is just better value for its size.

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thechipper

How is what Microsoft did any different than what Apple did in Canada in the mid to late 90s? Try to find a school that didn't run solely on Apple computers.

Also look to the Indian producers that made laptops for kids under $100. You would never use the pricing that an individual would have to pay to that of a company or school that has very specific specifications and needs. a 3.2ghz chip means nothing anymore. I could hit that with a garbage celeron. And I could buy 12gig high end memory kits for $60.

You can also never compare individual prices to that of a business or government agency. They buy thousands of copies and have contracts to reduce overall costs. Students at any University/College in Canada are offered Windows 7 for anywhere from $40-90. I've seen Microsoft Office 2011 for as low as $11 at 2 companies I've worked for.

You're right in the end though. You don't get rich by giving it away.

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interestinglyenough

Hahaha! Ridiculous. Let me debunk each and every point for ya:

 

1.This is plain BS. You download the software, run the patch/crack once and you're done. Stability issues are very, very rare.

2.You can just save the links to the pirated files. This argument is ridiculous.

3.Usually new patches and cracks are released soon after every update.

4.DRM will piss off enough customers that they corporations will be forced to eliminate it if they really want more profit.

5.It just takes a grain of common sense to avoid malware.

6.Most companies do NOT require a valid activation key for tech support.

7.It's easy to avoid getting caught and we should all push for anti-piracy laws to be repealed. Places like Canada and Switzerland say it's legal to pirate for personal use.

8.That's just a reason to pirate console games, not to stop pirating.

9 and 10 are ridiculous. The MPAA's profits have been increasing steadily. There is no proof that piracy has a significant impact on revenues because it is impossible to know whether pirates would have bought what they pirate if piracy was impossible.

And even if there IS a loss of revenue, that's because of the free market. Corporations are demanding ludicrous amounts of money for their products, think $60 for a video game, $40 for a DVD, $6 for a single movie, forcing Netflix, Blockbuster and Redbox to raise prices etc. 

They must come to grips with reality and meet the customers' demand.

 

And piracy is NOT theft. Theft means taking something AWAY from somebody. Piracy means making a COPY of something. Ignorants.

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methuselah

You're very good at manipulation, and the straw man.  You have not been able to support your claims in any of your arguments here or in your posts below.

Your copy argument for example, well...  you're just plain wrong.  Years ago when Xerox copiers were new, it was also against the law to "copy" material from books (recipes, the whole book etc.).  Today it's illegal to "copy" a song to your hard drive unless you've paid for it.  Regardless of all of that, just becasue it's digital and you can "copy" it doesn't suddenly mean it's free or give you an excuse to steal.

and who are you to decide what is and isn't too expensive?  Becasue YOU feel it's too expensive gives you a right to steal it?  In this world if something is too expensive then YOU DON'T BUY IT!  It doesn't give you a right to steal it.

 

Bottom line...  BE A MAN and at least admit your stealing  nothing worse than a sniveling whiner that hidies behind words and the straw man.

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homelessbob

My dear old methuselah, to put it succinctly, you're full of bunk! It is apparent to all that 'manipulation' and the 'straw man arguments' are completely well beyond your intellectual capacity. To put it colloquially: "You dumb!" Your fake moralistic argument falls on its own merit, you set yourself as judge, but who judges you? What you embody is the typical tool of the system, someone whose brain is so washed it has become bleached out! Who are you not to decide what’s too expensive? You say: BE A MAN...? Man! that’s a prehistoric statement if i ever heard one...I’m not a man, I’m a human being little dude...you are a throwback to the stone age...all you got going is an on point username! Capitalism has brainwashed you and you don’t even own it! Haaa! How's that for a straw man argument?

How do you sleep at night Paul?

 

 

 

 

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Holockau5t

HILARIOUS!!! Homeless Bob you are epic (yet refreshingly sincere). No further comments.

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iceman08

Technically, you still can't photocopy certain literature, such as going into Officemax and copying a few magazines for your reading later, or going to B&N and copying The Count of Monte Cristo since you technically don't own the material being copied

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phaseone

 

This may come across as rude but some people just need to be told straight up. You are the most ignorant person I have seen post here in this forum. You haven't debunked a single thing only showed how truly ignorant you are on this subject. You should read what you put in number 7 over again as you completely refuted yourself. Allow me to demonstrate, you said "it's easy to avoid getting caught and we should all push for anti-piracy laws to be repealed." but at the end of your post you said "And piracy is NOT theft. Theft means taking something AWAY from somebody. Piracy means making a COPY of something." When one is avoiding getting caught one is doing something wrong, in this case pirating software. If it’s not stealing and against the law you would not have to avoid being caught. You also seem to mistake a backup with pirated software there is a huge difference. Needless to say you have been debunked.

 

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homelessbob

phase one, move to phase two now....!

You’re not too good at reading between the lines. What he was alluding to is that sometimes being against law is not doing wrong...there have been inequitable laws since the introduction of the Hammurabi tablets. Take marihuana laws, as an example. The government makes more money by keeping them illegal, although it has been sufficiently proven that cannabis is not addictive will not lead to harsher drugs and that it has medicinal properties.

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Holockau5t

+1 here the drug war is way too lucrative and people don't see it. and yeah phase one got phased out, lame.

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interestinglyenough

"You are the most ignorant person I have seen post here in this forum. You haven't debunked a single thing only showed how truly ignorant you are on this subject"

You're completely missing the point.

 

"When one is avoiding getting caught one is doing something wrong, in this case pirating software"

Because piracy is CURRENTLY illegal, you know, like gay marriage and marjiuana. That doesn't make it theft (or wrong).

 

"You also seem to mistake a backup with pirated software there is a huge difference."

Elaborate.

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Khoiboi

Lets say you're a software developer and I go and "copy" your latest work. By your definition, that's alright, right? Imagine a future where piracy is legal. Who the hell would write software codes if THEY DON'T GET PAID.

Sometimes something is illegal because it actually makes sense to be illegal, give me a valid reason why they should legalize piracy considering it would quite frankly put hundreds of thousands of software developers out of work.

You're completely missing the point.

What do you mean? The point of your post was an extremely biased "piracy is alright". This isn't Robin Hood, you're stealing. An earlier poster at least tried to elaborated on how Bill Gates charges exorbitant fees for the use of their Windows 7 basic to justify their piracy, you're just saying "This shit costs too much".

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