Dyson Air Multiplier Review

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lungster

Dyson has a history of embelishing his products with claims that often sound outlandish. For this fan, I'd like to see if the 15 fold increase in airflow is true. It'd be nice to open up the thing and measure the real CFM of the internal fan, then compare it with that of the unit as a whole.

As others have pointed out, the airfoil may be easy to clean but the actual impeller itself will require cleaning and that's hidden away in the base. And any dirt / hair / etc that accumulates inside the ductwork will be even harder to remove. How's does that make it a better solution than an ordinary fan?

Normal bladed fans are protected with a wire grill. I don't know anyone, including my kids, who have ever stuck their fingers through and caught the spinning blades. After decades of using such grills, I find it hard to believe there's really a problem with such a design; especially not one that invokes such a costly premium. Seems like this is an invention looking for a problem.

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knighthorse

Yeah, to me this just seems way overpriced for what it is. I'd pay maybe $75-80 for something like that, and even then I doubt I'd buy it.

Although, the typo on the caption for the first picture would be more intriguing

"If you think this 10-inch baby bear version is costly, consider that the 40-inch papa bear tower model costs $449.99."

I might be tempted to get a 40" fan for that cheap lol.

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Morpheous416

Not enough to justify cost.

 

Dyson charges way too much for the typical consumer.  Specially in today's economy he seems oblivious to the simple fact that most of us aren't going to drop $600 for the vacuum, and $300 for the fan. 

I seen this at Best Buy, thought it was "cool" but seen the price and damn near choked laughing.

Considering that most 12" to 14" fans cost about $20 at good ole Walmart, you can complete your air flow requirements easily by purchasing about 15 regular fans at the same price.  Live with the buffetting.. your brain eventually tunes out the constant noise anyways.

The Dyson vacuum isn't the Bentley of cleaners.. I'm sorry to say that the most expensive vacuum to this date still remains with Kirby.  Who's top of the line model can still run close to $2K.

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Keith E. Whisman

Finally a fan that wont whack my fingers, I'm always getting my fingers through the grills of my standard fans and getting them whacked by the soft plastic blades, thank goodness the manufacturers use extremely weak fan motors made just for that reason, to keep people from getting hurt. 

Also, the Dyson vacuum cleaner is an over priced POS. Come on it's made of cheap plastic and costs $500 bucks, and it does the same thing my $100 dollar Eureka Wal-Mart vacuum cleaner can do and it has the same power and both are bagless and both have built in HEPA filters. Both have 15amp motors. So how is the Dyson better other than costing $400 bucks more and having that ball for swiveling that really I don't need? Just because you own one doesn't make it kick ass. You tell yourself it's kick ass to justify paying $500 or more for a fucking Vacuum Cleaner!

If MaximumPC operated that way then I would leave maximumPC forever. That's like saying the Intel P4 Prescott CPU was kick ass only because it was an Intel part or it cost more even knowing that the Athlon 64 was cheaper and faster.

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stradric

Unless I missed it, I don't think you actually commented on the airflow.  My question is, does it blow a solid pipe of air or a hollow pipe?  In other words, if you stick your hand in the middle of the gust or the center of the ring, do you feel air?  Or is the air flow only around the edge of the ring?  I suspect the latter, but I'm looking for confirmation.

Also the article says "buffering" but I believe the term Dyson uses is "buffeting" with a 'T'.

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JonPhillips

Yes, there is a "hollow" area created by the middle of the pipe. The airflow emanates from the ring, and there is somewhat of a dead zone immediately in front of the ring. You feel this dead zone if you're RIGHT in front of the fan, but if you're, say, 4-5-6 feet away, it's not really noticeable. FWIW, I don't see this as a problem, but I'd be interested to know if other people do. Good catch on buffering/buffeting -- i will fix it!

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mesiah

I'm liking the maximumtech articles. It breaks up the monotony of constant lawsuit announcements. For those naysayers out there, maybe you can put a little maximumtech logo next to the non-computer related articles so they can skip over them and not cry about wasting 2 minutes of their precious time. Also, maybe you guys can coordinate with the spammers in the comment section so we can buy these products from their malware ridden bootleg sites.

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skirge01

as one of the people enjoying the added product coverage.  I first heard about this fan several months ago and was really intrigued by the technology and design, but couldn't find any non-brochure information about it.  So, thanks for scratching that itch, since you also can't find this fan in any Brookstone or Sharper Image stores.  I may not want one (solely due to price), but I sure was interested in it!  Keep 'em coming!

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JonPhillips

I'm stamping out the spammers as soon as I see them, and have instructed the other admins to do so as well. Our back-end dev guys are well-aware of the problem, but they're a shared resource among our entire company, and have a priorities list that's, umm, sometimes tough to tackle quickly. You make a good point on needing some type of visual cue to flag Maximum Tech articles. We're working on this, but I wouldn't expect anything in the short term.

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Keith E. Whisman

So no separate MaximumTech website? MaximumTech articles will just hang out at MaximumPC.com? 

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unitymind

I would like one in 120MM Dyson Computer Fan to replace the all so "quiet" advertised fans that I have now. I'd pay $40 for a push/pull one as well.

 

Thanks

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PawBear

If this generated a hologram I might think it worth $300, but... a fan?

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The Big B

Sticking with my classic bladed fan. I only ever use it to make robot voices.

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imagonex

And kitty-cats can jump through the hoop! WOO! That alone is worth the $299.99.

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nHeroGo

...solutions to problems that didn't exist in the first place.

And when it will catch on fire, your dog can jump through the hoop.

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Kevin_Eleven

Can it run Crysis?

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TheMurph

No, but it does run Linux

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aviaggio

OMG Murphy LIVES!!!

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Fecal Face

Jesus christ. xD

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kighttribe

4My local BB had a 10" model on display, while it is true there is no buffering I did notice a huge dead zone right in the middle of the fan. I too feel that it is not a huge step in design, because it will still draw in dust and dirt to the impellers, which after a time will need to be cleaned. As all of us know fans inside our cases do become clogged and need cleaning from time to time. I did not see a way in which to pull apart the case to get to the impellers. And as most here have noticed $299 for a 10" fan is ridiculous, not to mention that is the cheapest fan, the 12" pedestal fan I believe is $200 more. Just my bucks worth

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Atomike

You say, "But the fact remains that Dyson vacuum cleaners do kick ass", however Consumer Reports disagrees with you. In fact, in testing, regular vacuums are usually better products - and cost much less.

Remember -  TV commercials aren't fact - they shouldn't be automatically be assumed to contain true information.

Dyson vacuums AREN'T any better than a discount Wal-mart vacuum. They simply aren't.

 

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JonPhillips

I didn't write that observation based on a TV commercial. I wrote that observation based on owning a Dyson vacuum for 2+ years. I love the ease of use in disposing the dust/dirt. I also love the fact it doesn't get jammed up when vaccuming rubber bands and other debris that would choke a traditional vacuum. I have other reasons for loving the vacuum... simply put it's way better than all the tradional vacuums I've owned over the years.

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Atomike

Nice. Because one person's experience surely can't be antecdotal. Surely Consumer Reports was far less thorough than you. One guy. Surely.

You get to wear the forehead sticker today.

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MrHorspwer

Seconded. As a Dyson owner for 4 years, I wouldn't buy a different vaccum. I've even made converts of my family, friends, and a couple coworkers.

Oh, and Consumer's Reports? Seriously? This is the publication that touted Toyota's high quality and safety until their cars became lucent and started to try driving themselves back to Skynet.

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Atomike

So you throw out everything Consumer Reports says? They are the most respected and objective consumer publication in existence. Dyson vacuums have been tested to be worse AT PICKING UP DIRT. If you don't care about that, then good for you.

Enjoy your flat earth.

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SininStyle

Your taking one opinion over another and saying the other is stupid. Dont see how arguing with the author about his opinion makes any sense honestly. Then to make it worse you add your opinion without actually using the product. Yet someone with 4 yrs of using the product agrees with the author. Whos world is flat?

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bo3bber

Whether the vacuum is better or worse than the competition is not a matter of opinion.  Consumer Reports is not an editorial page.

The difference is that CR uses the scientific method to determine whether a vacuum works better or worse than other vacuums.  They put the same amount of dirt into a carpet in a methodical manner, and test each vacuum.  They measure the remaining dirt, and directly compare effectiveness.

 

No offense to Jon, but anecdotal evidence is considered weak sauce when put up against the scientific method.  

"My sister's cousin had a Dyson, and it was awesome and totally worth the money."

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CR's Take

Overall, this is a very good upright vacuum that is best suited for cleaning bare floors and picking up pet hair with very low emissions.

Highs

The Dyson was excellent for cleaning bare floors, keeping emissions low, and cleaning pet hair. It had very good airflow for tools.

Lows

This model scored only good for carpets, unlike most upright vacuums we've tested. Its small bin often needed emptying during our tests.

 

You can use whatever method you choose, but most people prefer to remain reality based, and use the scientific method- because it provides the best results.

 

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Scootiep

I'm thinking a nice 120gig SSD, two GTX 250's or (5770's if that's your MOC), two 23" LCD monitors, or heck, getting off the beaten computer trail, ceramic exhaust headders for my 1995 Mustang GT! Anyone who asks the same price for a fan that would buy number of window based air conditioning units is flat out retarded. Talk about a complete lack of common sense. Mr. Dyson has intelligence of a high end engineer, but the common sense of Down's syndrome patient (nothing against the mentally handicapped, I'm just making an analogy).

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Eoraptor

"Mr. Dyson has intelligence of a high end engineer, but the common sense of a high end engineer..."

there, fixed that for you :P Sorry, I know far too many engineers who are so pleased with a fancy new solution, they forget to factor in cost, implimentation time, and existing design momentum.

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johnny3144

when i first saw the hoop, i thought it was an ionic wind "fan"(which would be totally awesome). this is still a mechanical design, which isn't all that cutting edge for that price tag. if this was an ionic wind "fan", then it would totally be worthy of it's 300 dollar price tag!

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Trooper_One

I've tried this bad boy and it's actually a pretty good product.  Too bad I don't have $300 laying around (or rather, to spare) for a tech toy like this.

On a side note, can't some case designer implement something like inside of a case to improve airflow?  Just a thought.

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m31337

If I strip out my CPU, VGA, Chipset, etc. coolers and point this fan at my box? What kind of awesome temps could I pull?

CPU Burn test: CPU fused with the socket

VGA: My 480 melted into a pile of plastic, copper and silicone goo

Chipset: the smoke came out and I haven't seen my hard drive since

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Eoraptor

It's a nice study in design and fluid dynamics... but... come on, $300 for a freaking table fan? Does it even oscilate? and it's LOUDER than my good old $15 ducted fan from yallmart?

 

Talk to me when you've perfected that airblade tech for the real, working hand dryers, Dyson.

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M-ManLA

Actually, not only does it oscilate, but it tilts, and have a dynamic speed knob (it is not two or three speeds). It is pretty cool. It is just pricey. There is also the hand dryer I seen in Vegas, those work pretty cool too.

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festre

hmmm......if i had $299.99 sitting around, what could I buy instead??

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lunchbox73

I usually don't jump on the "I thought this was a computer magazine" bandwagon but...a fan review? Id this from maximumtech?

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JonPhillips

It's from Maximum Tech, yes. We probably should note that at the top of Maximum Tech-sourced stories. Good catch!

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harbingercmt

 

Come on, lunchbox, lighten up.  As I'm sure many will agree, I thought it was a pretty entertaining and informative article...though I was and still am curious as to how much power this thing draws.

This is a pretty cool technology and it's not too far a stretch to imagine computer cases and components of the future utilizing this technology – assuming the technology becomes more efficient, quiet, and cost effective. 

Just imagine mature air foil technology that is whisper silent and moves so much air that it competes with water cooling solutions.  Come on, admit it...you just got a pudgy.  Don't deny it or be embarrassed.  It's a perfectly natural reaction to wanton PC power.

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somethingelse

Dude, it's a slow month; give MaxPC credit for at least putting some content up.  Besides, fans can be considered external cooling solutions for your PC, so there is a some revelance :D

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JonPhillips

Slow month?! All the IDF stuff has been pretty exciting!

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lunchbox73

Ya, I'm not pissed or anything I'm just curious why they would even get one in the lab to review.

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emzfrendcrisis

You say it is a slow month. Then why are the podcast late?

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Cache

It's Gordon's fault.  They upped his lithium by 200% and he just hasn't been as rant-filled as he used to be.

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sammy_sam

I agree....sure beats another tablet annoucement!

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