Column: America's Internet Freedom Hypocrisy

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sotoa

Thanks for posting this article and bringing it to attention. Sad but true words here.

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Brand___X

More often than not, the majority of posts I read, following an article here at MPC, resemble the in game verbal communication of MW3 players, hostile, aggressive and just plain rude.

What I have read here today has been enlightening and pleasant to read. Thank you all for displaying the type of behavior and wisdom that I would expect from readers of MPC but have rarely experienced.

Thank you Quinn for this article :)

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kerndaddy

quinn nortons articles are definitely one my favorite parts of the magazine.

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Mungo

Having a free internet doesn't mean you can have everything for free.;)

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Typo91

you're dam skippy it does!

To thy plank with thy scurvy nerf herder!

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Mungo

Arrrggghhh

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flyup

Excellent article- have you seen the price of bitcoin lately? I can't help but think there is a real revolution going on right now on the internet. Without their fiat currency the government is effed.

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Biceps

Great article. Nice to see you writing for MaxPC again, Quinn!

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tony2tonez

This a topic i wish Win tel had his account. He's probably raging at the moment. Lol

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Gezzer

I'm more baffled why this hypocrisy baffles anyone, American or otherwise.
A disclaimer, I'm Canadian and I'm sorry eh? This in no way is meant to diminish/attack American's or the USA, just the American government's long term track record, from what I know of it.

American foreign policy, and to a lesser degree domestic, has, at least from the end of WW2, been more about protecting American business interests then anything else. For example does America expound a pro democratic stance? Yes... if the country in question is a communist one that want's to nationalize key American owned businesses, Cuba is a perfect example. But a abusive dictator like the Shaw of Iran, not only is there no problem as long as the oil keeps flowing, but the CIA helped bring the Shaw to power in the first place. Then the US helped keep him in power till he was finally deposed. It's kind of why a lot of Iranians don't like the US. There are many more historical examples but it would just be redundant.

The only saving grace for the American people's conscience has been the fact that the government has been very good at keeping their transgressions secret, there by absolving the general public of any culpability. And even when the light of day did shine into the darker corners they were so good at putting on a dog and pony show, for example good old Oliver North and the Iran Contra affair http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
that nothing really substantial came of it.

That's not to say that there hasn't been American politicians, government branches, or citizens that have tried to create a better America and world. Just that they haven't been as numerous as we all have been lead to believe, and were often working at cross purposes to the hidden agendas.

It's one of the great things about the internet that it's much harder to hide what your doing from anyone that wants to know (currently anyway, that could change). But it's obviously a thorn in the side of American government branches that wish they could operate like they have in the past. A law unto themselves, where the "rules" are more about gaining advantage then about being fair and just.
The way I see it there is a showdown looming, between American interests that try to work in the shadows and the American people wanting the "American Dream" to become reality not only for themselves but anyone that wants it. Hopefully good will triumph. I'd hate to live in a world where it failed.

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tony2tonez

Truth is most Americans rather bury their hands in the sand than take action. We rather work at our miserable jobs, go to happy hour, and then watch American Idol. While the government slowly takes our freedoms away and we just shrug it off.

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Dark Blade

sad but true

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limitbreaker

Well said brother! in 1953 Iran had a democratically elected president but the British weren't happy that the president Nationalized Irans oil, at that time the Iranians trusted USA and had a great relations with the white house (president Truman) but when he was replaced by Eisenhower (republican) the first thing he did was to give in to the british and for the first time use the CIA to perform a coup d'eta replacing democracy with dictatorship. History is really interesting and when we learn the truth it leaves a really bad image of a government that on the surface shows something very different. I guess it's only natural that the ones in a position of power think that they're the good guys, the Germans thought the same when Hitler was in control.

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vrmlbasic

Nationalizing anything cannot be countenanced. Stealing doesn't magically become OK when the government does it, even if that government was "democratically elected".

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limitbreaker

I guess you don't know the entire story, it was being stolen to begin with by BP (british petroleum) on a fraudulent contract mades over 3 decades before that. The Iranians have a right to control their own natural resources. If you like a good read i would recommend that you get a book called "All the Shahs Men" by Stephen Kinzer. It will shine a lot of light on the events of that era and the united states involvement.

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vrmlbasic

I think you have a different definition of "stolen" than does the dictionary.

I am led to believe that your definition of "stolen" is the same one used in bogus Revisionist education to describe the White man's colonization of the Americas; I've always found that insulting to the Indians as they fought and died against the White man but the Revisionists severely downplay that.

I suppose the best part of the tale is that, despite stealing the Western infrastructure & technology for oil extraction, items that they were too inept to set up themselves, Iran imports ~50% of the gasoline that it uses. They might be able to get it out of the ground, thanks to purloined tech, but they still can't refine it sufficiently.

Worst part is that Britain caved and let the backwards Iranians steal their stuff. Tragic.

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limitbreaker

you can twist words around and concoct it what ever way you like. I guess in your mind if i went out into the street and knocked you out cold after a struggle and took your wallet that it's not considered "stolen". You obviously have a sociopaths view of the world...

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skirge01

Even as an American, I can't dispute much of what you guys have said. It's truly a shame. However, the American people are pretty much powerless against this. Voting people out of office (when it actually occurs) only brings in a different politician who still works for industry and special interest groups, not the general public. Sad to say, I don't see a way for it to end... there's simply too much money to be had.

Having admitted that, I also find it saddening (maddening?) that governments in other countries--who actually have more power than voting Americans do to stand up to the US government--will still sit, stay, and roll over when these corrupt politicians come calling. Once again, I don't see a way for it to end.

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Gezzer

I totally agree with your sentiments.
From what I understand many of democracy's problems can be traced back to something we all see as sacrosanct to the democratic process. The concept of one person one vote. There's a very interesting series of videos on how this system tends to end up with a two party system if allowed to run it's full course.
http://www.cgpgrey.com/politics-in-the-animal-kingdom
Watch the series, it's quite informative.
If we used a system as suggested in the videos a lot of the problems would be moot. For example it would make it very hard to consolidate a long term power base such as both US parties have. As it stands no truly new ideas or platforms can develop because everyone's worried about throwing away their vote.
So now often your only voice is during an election which only changes faces, not ideas.

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Typo91

gezzer i found that on youtube... thansk for turning me on to that... i found it interesting.

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azuza001

God I missed Quinns articles, good to see you back.

And again you make great points. What I just don't understand is how these politicians can possibly say these things about other countries and then flip and try to push these bills. They act like violating copyrights are the biggest threat to the American way since Cobra Commander in the 80's..... oh wait, I'm mixing fact and fiction up again arn't I? I guess I can see how easy it is for this to happen.....

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Electrik

We have the finest freedom money can buy.

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AFDozerman

I stopped at "attach car batteries at their nipples". I just had to come look at the comments.

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limitbreaker

12Volt DC is very deadly! or maybe they attach it to the nipples and then make the prisoner walk around dragging it with him, that would hurt.

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firefox91

Our lawmakers figured out there was money to be made in freedom which is why they sell it to the highest bidder every day.

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don2041

It's too bad that a lot north Americans are too busy being stalked on Facebook to know whats going on. The big problem here is that this news is not important to most social site users, thay are not interested in anything other than what their Facebook friends are lying to them about.

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Hey.That_Dude

Thank you so much for bringing such a great point to light.
What's the point of freedom if there's a (metaphorical) gun to your head... JUST IN CASE you do something wrong.

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USraging

Thank you for this article! Well written!

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PhaQue

Government exists for the benefit of those who govern.

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dubcek

It seems these days government in the USA exists for the benefit of those who buy it, MPAA comes to mind.

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