Hard Case: Signs of Life at AMD?
In the past year, AMD seems to have been taking a sort of “strategy du jour” approach. We ship low-cost processors! We do low-power CPUs! Our parts are great for overclockers! We love home-theater PCs!
Those messages weren’t really different from anything Intel, the 900 pound velociraptor in the CPU business, would offer up, but there was always a tinge of desperation. This became more noticeable as Intel slowly and methodically stripped away whatever technology edge AMD had. Intel’s Nehalem was really the last straw: AMD couldn’t even claim “true quad core” any longer.
The exception to this has been the company’s graphics division. For several years now, analysts have suggested that AMD’s acquisition of Toronto-based ATI was a distraction, and likely to bring down both companies. In the past twelve months, though, the graphics division has been surprisingly resilient. This, despite all the soap opera shenanigans that have plagued AMD--the latest being Hector Ruiz’s resignation as chairman of Global Foundries (the former AMD fab business), due to the Galleon Group insider trading scandal.
As the CPU division was forced to ship underperforming products that often sucked too much power, the graphics guys were kicking serious ass. The Radeon HD 4000 series GPUs weren’t the fastest you could buy, but they did have the best price/performance and forced Nvidia into an unanticipated price war. ATI then delivered the Radeon HD 5800 series, which proved to be the fastest GPUs available on the market. AMD has been selling all the 5800s they can manufacture, and would likely sell even more, if it weren’t for yield issues with TSMC’s 40nm manufacturing process.

Even with the successes on the graphics side, AMD still seemed like a bifurcated company: CPUs on one side, graphics on the other, with some platform (chipset) technologies the only link. Now, however, AMD is positioning itself as the only company with a unified approach to GPUs and CPUs. Nvidia, AMD notes, is only a GPU company while Intel is still only strong on the CPU side.
We’ve heard inklings of this, with the earlier announcements of its Fusion CPU, a melding of graphics functionality onto the CPU die. Now, however, AMD is taking its approach to CPUs–the melding of graphics and central processing–and applying that idea to its overall corporate strategy. AMD is trying to position itself not as a GPU or CPU company–instead, it’s a single company with feet planted firmly in both sides of the computational equation. Only AMD, with its expertise in building CPUs and GPUs, can really take advantage of the coming age of visual computing.

It’s about time.
To be sure, it’s a risky approach. Trying to excel in both arenas may simply result in creating mediocre products. On the other hand, the strategy plays to AMD's last real strength. Intel is struggling to get Larrabee out the door. Its current integrated graphics products are an also-ran compared to AMD and Nvidia’s chipset-level graphics. Nvidia, meanwhile, can’t get its Fermi architecture out the door, and continues its ongoing verbal and legal tussle with Intel.
So AMD has an opening it can exploit, however small and tenuous. Whether or not AMD will be successful depends entirely on execution at this point. On one side, AMD has a world class GPU design team which has been firing on all cylinders. On the other side, the CPU designs have been… less than competitive. AMD has had a poor track record in picking a strategy, then executing a product plan based on that strategy. It’s attempting something new, melding a CPU organization and a GPU team into one focused organization. Will the company pull it off? Or will we look back on AMD two years from now and wonder what happened?
I’m hoping AMD will pull it off, because I want multiple companies competing in both the CPU and GPU space. It’s competition that will drive creative and cool products, while consumers will benefit from reasonable price structures. But the stars are not necessarily aligned, and AMD’s competitors on both sides of its house are behemoth by comparison. Success, if it comes at all, will be a tough slog.
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mesiah
November 17, 2009 at 10:15pm
I'm rooting for AMD on this one. I would like nothing more than to see them revolutionize the cpu industry. I'm in the process of building a new system right now, and I am using a core i7 cpu. I have built AMD and Intel systems in the past. I don't play favorites, I buy what is the best. Right now AMD isn't even a consideration. I am using an ATI graphics card though, because right now its the best, and there is no fermi in sight (although until Nvidias CEO learns to shut his mouth I won't be buying Nvidia products anyway.) There was a time when athlon CPUs walked all over pentiums, and I recommended them to everyone I knew. Even when the performance gap was too close to call I recommended AMD, because I like to root for the little guy (don't we all?) I would love to see the day when I can again recommend AMD CPUs. I would love to see a day when AMD outsells Intel even if its for a single quarter. The market needs AMD, not only to keep prices competitive and drive technology, but to keep intel honest. With no real competitor comes total power, and with total power comes corruption, and we have enough of that already.
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RAMBO
November 19, 2009 at 6:24am
AMEN to that! I was also at the time making those recommendations and made money on AMD stocks.
Competion in the market place is a win win for all us. Let's all support grate inovations in the Tech sector so
we all can afford to build killer rigs at a affordable price!!!
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FRAGaLOT
November 17, 2009 at 12:32pm
Lets not forget that nVidia is also about to introduce thier own CPU to compete with Intel. While I don't think either nVidia nor Intel plan on making a single-chip CPU/GPU as yet. But if AMD does pull this out of thier ass, and it's sucsessful, be rest assured that Intel and Nvida will copy-cat that idea. But I never really though this was a really "new" idea anyway, hasn't this been done already with portible devices and game consoles?
Personally I don't like ATI cards, they might be the fastest right now, but so what? In the past I've had issues using ATI with akward drivers and issues running other OS (besides windows) with it. ATI powers the grapgics on my Xbox 360, and it has a very slow rendering when you enter a new area and it takes a moment for the textures start out dull and fuzzy untill they properly render. It feels like it has to download textures off the internet because it's so slow in this reguard.
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mesiah
November 17, 2009 at 9:53pm
Nvidia is about to release a cpu? This is news to me. The last I heard, which was no less than 2 weeks ago, that loud mouth CEO over at Nvidia claimed they have no current plans to release an x86 CPU. So, unless there has been new news since then, you are making a wild assumption based on the words of an nvidia employee that had no business talking about the future of the company. Personally I own both nvidia and intel cards, but I take offense to nvidias loud mouthed CEO as well as some of the things nvidia has done in the past (Stripping shader 2.0 out of their low end video cards for example.)
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DBsantos77
November 17, 2009 at 3:31pm
The first part of your argument makes sense, but once you touched base on ATI's Xenos running in a 360, my interest dissappeared.
Xbox 360's GPU is made from ATI, yes. But you have to actually research and figure out how it scales.
ATI's Xenos in the 360 scales very closely to an ATI HD2900XT 256MB Video card, and uses a language similar to DX9, with the Shader Model 3.0. Xenos is basically an IGP inside the 360.
On a PC, try running GTA:IV, or Oblivion with a HD2900XT, and you'll most likely see the same performance.
Comparing ATI's Xenon in a 360 (HD2900XT,) to a 58xx is totally irrelevant.
-Santos
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Evolyptic
November 17, 2009 at 11:18am
The problem is that AMD/ATI is trying to play both sides of the court with 1 team. They're heading against 2 other teams. The opponent teams don't even like each other but are forced to work together because AMD/ATI is their competition (Intel & Nvidia). If they (AMD/ATI) would drop one of their product lines Processors or Graphics Cards. I'm sure one of the opponents (depending on the product) would partner with them. It now comes down to what you want more. Do you want Intel with AMD Graphics Cards, AMD Processors with Nvidia Graphics, or do you want what is coming. AMD Will continue to fight, and it will fight hard, but in the end. I fear my favored company; The innovative AMD; Will fall.
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mesiah
November 17, 2009 at 10:01pm
Down the road it just may end up that intel/larabee, and amd/ati are the two big players and nvidia ends up shifting their focus away from graphics and towards parallel proccessing. Nvidia is already starting to downplay the importance of graphics demands as the driving factor in their gpu designs. And with the video game market virtually refusing to design games for the latest computer technology and instead just focus on consoles.... Nvidia may be making a smart move. Who needs a $500 video card to play a game designed for a 5 year old console when a $100 card will still net you 60fps?
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syn2xs
November 17, 2009 at 11:10am
Nice write up.
The only thing I fear from this is AMD/ATI doing so well that Intel has the oppurtunity to buy out a weakened NVIDIA and we end up having 2 divergent CPU/GPU platforms that drift apart in compatibility. That would be real bad.
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nekollx
November 17, 2009 at 11:47am
While I can see Intel buying out Nvidia I can't see them cutting out the ATI. It would be market suicide to say "if you want intel procs you need a nvidia gpu"
Remember a AMD board can still run ATI or Nvidia...
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syn2xs
November 17, 2009 at 11:57am
All it takes is a couple of bean counters to say hey we can sell more boards/cpu's and gpu's if we do this and make more money. Since when is common sense a deterrent to greed.
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Toady00
November 17, 2009 at 12:13pm
"Since when is common sense a deterrent to greed." - Amen to that.
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nekollx
November 17, 2009 at 12:09pm
hope fully one of those counter will look at amd and relaize "uh guys the competition can run nvidia...that might put some people off..."
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