Hard Case: Signs of Life at AMD?

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mesiah

I'm rooting for AMD on this one. I would like nothing more than to see them revolutionize the cpu industry. I'm in the process of building a new system right now, and I am using a core i7 cpu. I have built AMD and Intel systems in the past. I don't play favorites, I buy what is the best. Right now AMD isn't even a consideration. I am using an ATI graphics card though, because right now its the best, and there is no fermi in sight (although until Nvidias CEO learns to shut his mouth I won't be buying Nvidia products anyway.) There was a time when athlon CPUs walked all over pentiums, and I recommended them to everyone I knew. Even when the performance gap was too close to call I recommended AMD, because I like to root for the little guy (don't we all?) I would love to see the day when I can again recommend AMD CPUs. I would love to see a day when AMD outsells Intel even if its for a single quarter. The market needs AMD, not only to keep prices competitive and drive technology, but to keep intel honest. With no real competitor comes total power, and with total power comes corruption, and we have enough of that already.

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RAMBO

AMEN to that! I was also at the time making those recommendations and made money on AMD stocks.

Competion in the market place is a win win for all us. Let's all support grate inovations in the Tech sector so

we all can afford to build killer rigs at a affordable price!!!

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FRAGaLOT

Lets not forget that nVidia is also about to introduce thier own CPU to compete with Intel. While I don't think either nVidia nor Intel plan on making a single-chip CPU/GPU as yet.  But if AMD does pull this out of thier ass, and it's sucsessful, be rest assured that Intel and Nvida will copy-cat that idea.  But I never really though this was a really "new" idea anyway, hasn't this been done already with portible devices and game consoles?

Personally I don't like ATI cards, they might be the fastest right now, but so what? In the past I've had issues using ATI with akward drivers and issues running other OS (besides windows) with it. ATI powers the grapgics on my Xbox 360, and it has a very slow rendering when you enter a new area and it takes a moment for the textures start out dull and fuzzy untill they properly render.  It feels like it has to download textures off the internet because it's so slow in this reguard.

 

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mesiah

Nvidia is about to release a cpu? This is news to me. The last I heard, which was no less than 2 weeks ago, that loud mouth CEO over at Nvidia claimed they have no current plans to release an x86 CPU. So, unless there has been new news since then, you are making a wild assumption based on the words of an nvidia employee that had no business talking about the future of the company. Personally I own both nvidia and intel cards, but I take offense to nvidias loud mouthed CEO as well as some of the things nvidia has done in the past (Stripping shader 2.0 out of their low end video cards for example.)

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DBsantos77

 The first part of your argument makes sense, but once you touched base on ATI's Xenos running in a 360, my interest dissappeared.

Xbox 360's GPU is made from ATI, yes. But you have to actually research and figure out how it scales. 

ATI's Xenos in the 360 scales very closely to an ATI HD2900XT 256MB Video card, and uses a language similar to DX9, with the Shader Model 3.0. Xenos is basically an IGP inside the 360.

On a PC, try running GTA:IV, or Oblivion with a HD2900XT, and you'll most likely see the same performance.

Comparing ATI's Xenon in a 360 (HD2900XT,) to a 58xx is totally irrelevant.

-Santos

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Evolyptic

The problem is that AMD/ATI is trying to play both sides of the court with 1 team. They're heading against 2 other teams. The opponent teams don't even like each other but are forced to work together because AMD/ATI is their competition (Intel & Nvidia). If they (AMD/ATI) would drop one of their product lines Processors or Graphics Cards. I'm sure one of the opponents (depending on the product) would partner with them. It now comes down to what you want more. Do you want Intel with AMD Graphics Cards, AMD Processors with Nvidia Graphics, or do you want what is coming. AMD Will continue to fight, and it will fight hard, but in the end. I fear my favored company; The innovative AMD; Will fall.

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mesiah

Down the road it just may end up that intel/larabee, and amd/ati are the two big players and nvidia ends up shifting their focus away from graphics and towards parallel proccessing. Nvidia is already starting to downplay the importance of graphics demands as the driving factor in their gpu designs. And with the video game market virtually refusing to design games for the latest computer technology and instead just focus on consoles.... Nvidia may be making a smart move. Who needs a $500 video card to play a game designed for a 5 year old console when a $100 card will still net you 60fps?

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syn2xs

Nice write up.

The only thing I fear from this is AMD/ATI doing so well that Intel has the oppurtunity to buy out a weakened NVIDIA and we end up having 2 divergent CPU/GPU platforms that drift apart in compatibility. That would be real bad. 

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nekollx

 While I can see Intel buying out Nvidia I can't see them cutting out the ATI. It would be market suicide to say "if you want intel procs you need a nvidia gpu"

Remember a AMD board can still run ATI or Nvidia...

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syn2xs

All it takes is a couple of bean counters to say hey we can sell more boards/cpu's and gpu's if we do this and make more money. Since when is common sense a deterrent to greed.

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Toady00

"Since when is common sense a deterrent to greed." - Amen to that.

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nekollx

 hope fully one of those counter will look at amd and relaize "uh guys the competition can run nvidia...that might put some people off..."

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