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Hard Case: Is Nvidia All Grown Up?

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As a developer of graphics technology, Nvidia has been incredibly successful. Despite severe competitive pressure from AMD, Nvidia’s desktop GPUs still hold the number one market share, though AMD recently upped the ante with the release of the Radeon HD 5870, which is hands down the fastest single GPU card today.

It’s clear, though, after Nvidia’s recent GPU Technology Conference, that the company’s aspirations lie well beyond building graphics chips. That’s not a revelation – Nvidia’s been saying this for several years now. For an industry observer, though, the GPU Tech Conference lays out Nvidia’s model for moving beyond just graphics.

That model, ironically, is Intel.

You won’t see Nvidia rushing out to buy or build new fabs, nor is it likely the company will bring to market an x86 CPU. Rather, what Nvidia’s trying to do is present the face of a modern, mature company with its fingers in many pies and its eyes firmly on future growth.

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The press conference last Wednesday proved illuminating. It wasn’t so long ago that CEO Jen-Hsun Huang was throwing out phrases like “opening up a can of whoop-ass” when referring to Intel. By contrast, the press conference at the Fairmont Hotel in San Jose was positively restrained. Huang was still the centerpiece of the press conference, taking almost all the questions. But every time he’d start to stray into “whoop ass” verbal territory, he’d pull back just a bit. There was no doubt in anyone’s mind that he’s still very competitive. It’s also clear he’s become a little more cognizant of what Nvidia needs to do to stick around for the long term.

“We’re not a startup anymore,” he said at one point. “We’re a big company now.”

Everyone knows that, of course, but Nvidia’s always behaved like a startup. Now, it’s starting to think of itself as a large, mature entity. There’s a tendency to think of “mature” as some kind of pejorative in the technology business, but technology is mainstream now. Investors and analysts feel much more comfortable when a company acts like a grown-up.

The attitude extended to my conversations with other people at the conference. Take, for example, how the rollout of Nvidia’s new GPU technology, dubbed “Fermi,” was handled.

In a meeting with Tony Tamasi, Nvidia’s senior VP of technology and content, he acknowledged that they needed to say something to counter AMD’s recent Cypress (HD 5870 & 5850) announcements. But his tone when talking about Fermi was low key. When pressed about CUDA, Nvidia’s proprietary interface for writing general purpose GPU applications, he took the position that Nvidia was in no way positioning CUDA against emerging standards like OpenCL or DirectCompute 11.
“It’s about getting apps on the GPU, any way possible. CUDA, OpenCL, DirectCompute – they’re all good.”

Nvidia’s cool new add-in for Microsoft Visual Studio, Nexus, reinforces the point. Nexus works with CUDA, but also OpenCL and DirectCompute, allowing Windows developers to work natively inside Visual Studio, and picking their interface of choice to the GPU – all working seamlessly with CPU code.

Nvidia has lost none of its ambitions, though. Sanford Russel, the GM of the compute side at Nvidia, said it bluntly: “We’re a processor company, not a graphics company.”

But rather than blindly take on processor companies head on, as it seemed to want to do a couple of years ago, it’s taking a longer term approach, working with key software partners like Microsoft and Apple to gradually position the GPU as an equal to the CPU. That’s a much more indirect approach than trying to take on Intel directly.

Still, the road will not be easy. AMD has already shown it can build a great graphics processor with Cypress. As it moves slowly towards integrating CPU and GPU functionality, it will more directly compete with Nvidia on the GPU compute front – something it hasn’t placed a strong emphasis on in the past. Similarly, Intel is slowly – too slowly for some observers – building Larrabee, their take on a completely software programmable GPU.

Sanford Russell believes that Larrabee is too unbalanced toward the x86 side, and won’t be as good at the highly data parallel applications Nvidia is targeting with Fermi. In reality, no one really knows how good Larrabee will be. However, Intel has the will and the resources to pursue Larrabee until they get it right.

Right now, Nivdia is seeing some success with its much smaller Tegra line, and is starting to rack up some design wins. However, its chipset business is slowly fading away, since Intel has been unwilling to issue bus licenses for the Nehalem generation of CPUs. There’s Ion, of course, but that’s really a long term dead end, as Intel’s Atom transitions to become more of a system-on-chip.

So it won’t be an easy path for the other Santa Clara chip company. It is, however, a path that Nvidia needs to pursue to remain relevant and keep growing. The pressures, however, will be enormous.

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The fluidness of that video is stunning, jaw dropping, 0_0 unbelievable realism.

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avataran absolutely delightful

an absolutely delightful read. great job =)

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avatarLoyd Case ROCKS !

 

 I'm so glad Loyd is writing for MaxPC. More podcasting too.

E.T. podcast was a favorite.

 

 Hey, Me Tooo. Belittling PC tech, and talking up consoles will win no freinds here.

If you read the artical, it's about GPU's being used for more than fragging North Koreans.

This tech is basicly here, whats needed is more apps tooo use the power available to high power desktops.

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avatarThat liquid video was great

That liquid video was great

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avatarMeToo (corrected)

"Submitted by MeTo on Tue, 2009-10-06 10:52

I think it won't matter what Nvidia comes out with next. With
console games and internet streaming of games on PC there is no need
for High end video cards. The 3D video card market will fall. IMHO"

 

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But he forgets that  console and internet streaming both still need 3D
power, consoles have moved away from custom 3D to the big boys who get it right
the first time in the PC arena, and those server farms do need to have many a
video card to even stream the nice sexy visual services right to your PC, but
remember there are other factors at play that have yet to catch up with
videocairds, and there is still 10 year old tech in mobo's that haven’t even
seen the light of day of updating in a PC gamers world. 

 

Sometimes I just wanna see what's next, and watch ppl play catch-up with
this tech.

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avatarThat's not leet speak...

 Oh my goodness, the lost language of geek had risen from the grave! Sorry, but I can't decifer it.

 

 

OMGWTFBBQ

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avatarI think

I think it won't matter what Nvidia comes out with next. With console games and internet streaming of games on PC there is no need for High end video cards. The 3D video card market will fall. IMHO

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avatarWhat you fail to realize...

What you fail to realize in your own world of catastrophic ignorance is that Nvidia is venturing into a new frontier.  Furthermore the "3D video card market" as you stated is what is powering that thing you call a console and those internet streaming games.

And just so your well informed, the intent of this new GPU is to provide powerful parallel computing, which will give the opportunity for scientists, engineers, and so forth the ability to create more realistic results in a much more affordale package.  This by the way leads me to my next point to inform that world of ignorance that you live in.

This GPU also gives programmers more ability to do things with physics, like the physics in video games, i.e. how things blow-up, how your character shoots his or her weapon.  That sort of thing.

So I will remind you MeTo (which should be MeToo, remember that thing called grammar) that this is a place for PC enthusiasts, not console enthusiasts.  So go find some lame console based magazine and stay in your world of ignorant bliss. Otherwise, take an honest look, and read about computers and realize what you are talking about  before you submit a stupid comment like that.

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avatarYou use your pseudo i will use mine

By the way it should be Undeniably PC. (remember that thing called grammar) I think you need to read this site more often as it has a lot more to offer than just Maximum PC stuff. You seem to be ignorant to the fact. I will enjoy it when a top of the line video card is $200. Let's get backon topic the fastest single 3D video card on the market is the ATI 5870 for all those PC enthusiast. I love it when the red team spanks the green team.

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avatarGreat article!

I am continually impressed with Loyd Case's new articles on MaximumPc.com. He really delves into many facets of computer hardware companies and offers a glimpse into the inner-workings of some of today's greatest technology manufacturers. He also provided an extremely tech-savvy voice to the No BS podcast last week.

I think it will be very interesting to see what Nvidia comes up with in the next year as they respond to ATI's kick-ass 5870 card. Like Loyd says, there definitely is a shift in the way that Nvidia is being managed. I wonder how this will affect the products that they churn out.

When do you guys think that we will see the GT300 series cards?

 

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avataragreed. kudos to Loyd

I've been reading Loyd Case's articles since he used to write for PC Gaming World back in the early 90s.  In fact, his "hard stuff" section on hardware was the only reason I kept reading that publication after its de-evolution into juvenile imbecility.  (and I say that as a former subscriber to PCXL)  Thanks, Loyd, for your great columns.  Keep them coming. 

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avatarI've read that they will

I've read that they will come out in December.

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