Fast Forward: Rethinking Graphics

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davey

GTX-V8  BOY I FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE WHO DONT HAVE AT LEAST A GTX-295 AND A I7 WITH 6GB ! WAS A GAMER BEFORE I GOT ONLINE ! NOW I HAVE SPENT TIME LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT IS UP AND COMING IN THE REAL WORLD OF COMPUTING ! ALL I DID BEFORE GAMING WAS TO EXPERIMENT WITH WHAT I COULD DO TO WINDOWS XP AND VISTA WITHOUT CRASHING THE SYSTEM ! SO DONT CUT ON US GAMERS ALOT OF US LIKE TO LEARN AND SHARE OUR RESULTS WITH THE WORLD TO MAKE ALL THINGS BETTER IN THE END !!!!

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B1Gx5MurF

I think ATI started hardware accelerating HD streaming content with their 9.11 catalyst release.  For me there's definitely an improvement, but its not really noticeable unless i'm trying to do like a dozen other things at the same time.

 What gets me excited are the possibilities in new content.  Quake Live for example, I remember when I spent $2k to build a system that could play that game, but now those same system requirements can run in a browser.  This could be a preview at possibilities of cloud computing.

 Another is folding@home, cpu's cant even come close to matching even mid range gpu's, I wonder what other applications which aren't really feasible using cpu power could come out of the woodworks

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visibly_stealthy

 why would I reply without reading the entire comment? I can't think of one person who uses their computer for just gaming. I'm sure they use media players and internet browsers and such, not my point but still, carrying on games are one of the very few things I can think of that require a computer full potential. Save for scientific research and the like. Maybe if you are playing blu-ray's but even that doesnt require very much computational power mostly gpu horsepower. And if games aren't productive I guess the military uses some games as a pre-training platform for no inherent reason? I guess I'll keep my mouth shut since I have no idea what I am talking about, and am primitive to you. I'll stick with being a gamer that's a power user, but not a power user for the simple given fact that I am gamer!

 

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jonahkirk

Of course gamers are power users. Have you seen the wattage our 4890's in quad crossfire suck down? It ain't a 1200 W power supply for no reason. LOL

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visibly_stealthy

 "what's with gamers calling themselves power users, when all they do is game?" What an ascinine question.  So that means, because I play games I'm a gamer, And because I'm a gamer, I'm a poweruser that only play's games? That sounds stupid, yet is what is being implied by your question. Sure I could spend 5 seconds coming up with a few different analogies to make my point. but your point is moot, and would require but a paltry rebuttal to prove you are ill informed.But I have wasted enough of my time on this. Because I need to go be a poweruser that only games.....................as previously stated, you sound like an idiot.

In the hands of a master, any object can become a field improvised, lethal weapon.

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lien_meat

I'm talking about people that don't do anything but game, know nothing about computing, and somehow think they are a power user.  It's different.  Read the full comment before commenting back how about.

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lien_meat

I don't really game much either.  I find it a huge waste of time.  None of my computers have decent video cards (read laptop with integrated intel, desktop with a 6 series nvidia)...but the day will probably arrive when even my work will necessitate something that can do gpu computing well.  That's probably when I'll buy a decent video card.

And hey...just wondering...what is with gamers calling themselves power users...when all they do is game.
Gaming no more equates you as being a power use than does running photoshop.  Gaming isn't even a productive use for a computer...  I'm fine with the term if it's used to distinguish those that know how to use a computer to it's potential rather than just game...but that's not often the case...

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nekollx

 "rather than just game..."

 

You  know they say The World is just a game....

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Raspop

Break out the Nobel Prize nominations, we've finally found someone who can use a computer to its full potential.

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DJFresh

You come to this site and question power user status of gamers? We are the ones driving innovation idiot. You wouldnt have all this cheap power if it wasnt for us. There would be no Moore's law. You wouldnt have real unassisted 3d displays in 10 years if it wasnt for us. Remember that.

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lien_meat

I'm not talking about hardware here.  I DO realize that gamers do move the hardware industry forward.  I would NEVER deny that.
I'm talking about being a power user...
Maybe you don't know the real definition of a power user:
"A power user is a user of a personal computer who has the ability to use advanced features of programs which are beyond the abilities of "normal" users, but is not necessarily capable of programming and system administration." -from wikipedia

You know what...you just answered my question on why this happens so often.  Gamers actually do believe that having and using beefy hardware does actually classify them as a power user...wow...just wow.

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nekollx

 mainly cause Gamers, the hard core ones anyway, are pushing the milits oftheir harware and tweaking the OS to get the best performance.

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lien_meat

yeah...I'll agree that hard core gamers are often power users...but many plain jane gamers that don't know crap about their computers or OS consider themselves power users as well...just because they game...that's what I was trying to get across.  Sorry for the confusion.

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dpomales

Excellent point, I used to run bare foot too. Maybe I still am. After graduating to Windows 7 64bit professional, I realize those days are over. I love my Visiontek Radeon HD 4650 GPU system. It is running on a GA-61PME-S2P Gigabyte motherboard. I originally loaded the OS to a ECS GeForce 6100SM-M motherboard. The ECS motherboard started to fail because of old age ( leaky electrolytic capacitors ). I saw that the Gigabyte motherboard had the same chipset so I installed and booted it without reloading the OS. The RAID-0 striped array was detected and came up without a hitch on Windows 7 64 bit. Supplemental drivers installed automatically. Okay I had to redo my license with Microsoft, but that was the only problem. I expect the Gigabyte motherboard to last longer. This is due to it's use of aluminum capacitors and ferrite cores on the inductors for the four phase voltage regulator on the AMD AthlonX2 64bit processor. Details...

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captrespect

Not Maximum at all.

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Biceps

Sir, I have an extra AGP-slot 7800 Nvidia card that I will GIVE you.  No one should have to suffer with a 4200. No one, you hear me??!

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logicmaster2003

GeForce4 Ti-4200 from 2002 ?

Mine.. one of my 3 PC is running on ATI-8500DV (year sub-2000) for almost 10 years now ! - I use it on a daily basis to record tv shows :) 

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JasonCross

Grand Central Dispatch? Am I missing something? Everything I've ever read about it points to GCD being a task-parallel thread pooling system for multicore CPUs. There's no access to GPU hardware in there, that I have seen (I'm not a programmer, I'm just going by what I've read). Now, Apple is supporting OpenCL, so there's still that avenue for GPU acceleration in Snow Leopard.

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nekollx

 The interesting thing is is in this future you propote now even non gamers will have a lower hurdle to entry. Joe Bob gets a GPU powered pc to watch movies,a few months later he reads about The Sims 5, interested he checks the back of the box "Hey i can run this." And takes the box home that day instead of hitting up some random forum to find out why his new game doesn't run and learning he needs a GPU.

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MeTo

But the GPU will be low end and run about 10 FPS so he will have to buy a new video card to play the game.

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