Murphy's Law: Why Doth Apple Fear Virtualization?

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aarcane

while apple doesn't condone or allow it, a simple google search for a hybred of apples primary OS moniker and the architecture of a 32 bit PC will return a number of excellent resources of dubious legality for accomplishing exactly this.  no need for virtualization, and if you've got the "right" hardware, it'll "just work", much like having a real apple computer.

I know this because I currently tripple boot windows 7, ubuntu UNR, and OSX 10.5.6 on my dell computer.

 also, with regards to the Apple-branded excerpt, one unknown internet user once pointed out many inexpensive apple products (ipods, etc.) include authentic, self-adhesive apple brands so that you can place that apple brand on anything you choose.  anyone with legal expertise care to investigate this obvious loophole?

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TheMurph

"while apple doesn't condone or allow it"

Which means you can't do it.  That said, I know that one can fire up OS X in a Windows environment without that much hassle.  However, this is an illegal use of the operating system--whether we like it or not.  My column is more dealing with finding a legal method for virtualizing OS X.
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DogPatch1149

Microsoft should change the EULA for all Windows versions and specifically prohibit installation of Windows on any Apple-branded hardware, and on any virtual environment or emulator running on Apple-branded hardware.

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BinaryMonkey

Why? Whether it’s Apple users buying their OS or PC users, they’re still moving product. No intelligent company would do anything to mess that up.

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Zazubovich

since most Mac users simply want "something that works."  South Park had the prius driver episode on last night; that is another product that suffers from the attitudes and behaviors of its most fervent users.

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nekollx

 Tell me about it, the Apple Smug cloud is quite suffocating

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Zachary K.

microsoft makes it illegal to use windows OS on any computers also running any other OS. fight fire with fire.

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Zarlof

Mac has been selling the ability to run Windows under their environment since Windoes 3.11. It seems rather strange that they would not allow Windows users to do the same with a Mac OS? Maybe they should change 200 for a Virtual capable version? OR just maybe their is no reason for Windows users to limit themselves by loading the heavly limited operating system under windows? Yea, that is more likely the case I think.

 Zar.

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BinaryMonkey

I think it comes down to 2 issues.

1. Apple makes the majority of their money on hardware. So if people where able to run OSX on any platform and have the option of buying/building a top of the line PC system for around $1500 or a comparable Apple system for almost twice that price, most people are going to go for the less expensive system.

2. Apple doesn’t want to have to support different hardware. One of the claims Apple has made over the years is how much more stable their OS is compared to others. This is due in part to the fact that their OS is built around their hardware and their drivers. If they let their OS run on other platforms, they’re going to be in the same seat MS used to be with getting a bad rap because a poorly coded driver for some POS outdated hardware keeps crashing the system.

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Caboose

 Your second point used to be fact before Apple switched to the x86 platform. Once they moved to Insmell CPU's and all PC based components, that point became moot.

 

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nekollx

 except Apple still doesnt suppport multiple hardware, they may use industry standard parts but it's very specific parts.

 

What could Seven be installed on?

Atom, Centrino, ARM, Tegra, Nano, Phenom, Athelon, Tuiron, Xeon, Core 2, Core i, etc.

 

What can OSX install on

Core 2, i7 (and Xon variants of those)

Period

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Wareagle

Though people buy Macs for the software, Apple makes most of their money on the hardware sales.  So it makes sense that they wouldn't want anyone running OS X on other platforms.

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gendoikari1

Yeah, because otherwise who would gouge the customer? 

Lost hopes:

Warcraft IV

Timesplitters 4

Star Wars: Battlefront III

Mercenaries 3 (but with LucasArts) 

 

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Hg Dragon

Apple only believes in convenience when it's their idea. If someone else comes up with it first (or does it better), then it's against their philosophy and is to be shunned like a non-believer on the way to Candy Mountain.

SHUUUUUUUNNNNNNNED!!!

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TheMurph

If I could award you bonus commenter points for your excellent use of the Candy Mountain joke, I would.

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Danthrax66

A little off topic, but I hate how Microsoft gets yelled at by the EU for only including IE on their OS yet every single apple product is locked down to the programs apple wants to sell you and what apple wants to support I just find that to be bs. Although apple by far has the best designed computers, just look at this wired article http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/apple-heist-empties-store-in-just-31-seconds/ lol

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Caboose

 Because Microsoft is the big bad software developer, and Apple is the little innocent guy in the corner that gets beat up all the time! Everyone loves an underdog.

I'm sure if the tables were turned, Apple would be the one being attacked (even more so because they only allow OSX on one hardware platform) and Microsoft would be "Oh woah is me!"

 

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Biceps

You see, it goes like this... APPLE SUCKS.  Does that answer your question?  Cause if it doesn't, I have some great 4-letter words to combine with 'Apple' that might serve to get the point across more clearly.  Let me know....

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nekollx

 it's all marketing.

Look at it this way if they sold Open OSX they would need to turn a profit on it. So they would have to charge something like $100-$200 for the OS, just like MS. The only reason OSX retails at $29 is because they KNOW your going to run it on a Apple computer ALSO bought from them. You don't need a MS branded laptop to run Windows but legally you need a Macbook (and not just any mackbook it has to be from the Intel generations) to run OSX

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Caboose

 Thats enough of you and your silly logic! Logical thinking has no place on the inter-tubes!

 

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TheMurph

Well, for what it's worth, whether a particular OS is "good" or not does indeed depend on what you're using it for.  Case in point: I'm a gamer, thus, I don't use OS X.  However, when I want to edit multimedia, I find that a number of the programs that are OS X-only are, in some ways, superior in all the right places to what I can otherwise get on a Windows system.  That said, I hate using the OS X file management system.  But up until Windows 7, I did like the taskbar...  etc.

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Caboose

 There are plenty of multimedia editing apps available on the Windows platform that are equal to and greater than their mac (or mac only) counterparts. For video editing, you could use Final Cut Pro or Premiere. If I'm not mistaken Adobe Premiere is Windows based as well. Plus there's always Sony Vegas Movie Studio 9. I have the 64bit version on my PC at home, and I actually find it easier to use, and like it much better than Premiere and Final Cut. The line between Mac ONly and Windows Only is dissapearing quickly, and the PC is becoming as powerful, and even more powerful than Macs in terms of multimedia design and editing.

 

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nekollx

 Tell that to the multimedia industry, my office recently got another heniously expensive Mac Pro tower because all our affiliates use Mac, and even after showing them how we could save a few thousand bucks by getting most of the components from newegg and only the absolute nesesities from Apple they still went all Apple.

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