The Game Boy: Why You Should Be Cheering at PC Gaming's “Funeral”

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ehr091

Ok, to get past all of the "you got your chocolate in my peanut butter, etc" issues, let us look at the true issue here. Modern PC games (Half Life, Doom, WOW) were made to push the latest and greatest in video and cpu perfomance. How else are you going to justify spending upwards of $500 bucks for a video card that will hit the bargin bin in 6 months time? And lets face it, we love playing doctor with our PC's to get them just right.

Consoles on the other hand are made to be disposable. By the very nature of console gaming, exclusive games make the console and that unit is dying the minute it is put on sale. By the time we picked up our first PlayStation, the PS2 was in development and getting drawn up. Sega paid the price in the end. It developed far too many consoles at once and so they were forced out of the console wars to be replaced by Microsoft ( Sega Genesis to CDX to Saturn to Neptune to DreamCast).

When you look at the sheer numbers consoles are truly plug and play and out sell PC's big time come the holidays (from the gaming aspect). Got a tv with an RCA input then you are minutes away from playing. Pc's need to be updated, have patches the need to be applied and the list goes on. Consoles follow the KISS (keep it simple stupid) method. PC's are refined pieces of hardware that have a very long shelf life but dont get the big bang of advertisement that consoles get. PC's are billed as something to watch movies on and can be used to show photos, when we all know they do sooo much more (thanks Billy Gates).

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Snipe3000

Articles like this should be written by PC gamers who know their PC games. This guy clearly does not, casual gamer at most. MaxPC, if you release anymore like this I'm pulling your card.

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novatvstdios

calculated risk is a facet of capitalism, a system that describes freedom as giving an individual the right to succeed and fail, to choose between pilfering his wages at a casino and paying rent. franchises are win/win. i named my company novatv as a joke on the uninnovative schemes that get passed for innovation thes dayse, but i've learned that death is inevitable yet many fear it, change is the only constant but everyone takes it in as small a dose as possible. any observation you make on a mass market has to take into account the fact that at least 90% of any sample population is dumb as fukin nails (shit for brains would be an upgrade)

if it were up to me there would be know superboy, superman would be out of print, but these small nuggets of canon for me indicate something more or less profound about the nature of reality and why consensus has to be the biggest factor deciding evolution. or some shit like dat.

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drexl

I love how you stereotype all console games as having no innovation and are all cookie-cutter clones of games like CoD and Halo. Well what about console games that don't conform to this stereotype and actually do something genuinely different? Games like LA Noire? Or The Last Guardian? There's plenty of games on consoles that aren't tired retreads of the same game over and over, you just haven't bothered looking for them.

Also I don't remember hearing any game publishers saying that PC gaming is dead. Ever. If publishers truly believed that PC gaming was dead, then why are they still releasing games on PC at all? It seems to me that it's only insecure PC gamers who keep trumpeting the tired old phrase that pc gaming is dead, just so they can refute it over and over, in a vain attempt to feel secure that PC gaming isn't dying.

Also, I love how you praise indie games as the future of PC gaming, but how are they the future when they don't even push our PCs to their limits? The whole point of PC gaming, and the sole reason I game on PC, is to play games that will push my hardware to its limits and show off how jawdroppingly amazing games can look on top of the line hardware. INDIE GAMES DO NOT DO THAT. Name me one indie game that actually pushes PC hardware to its limits. Go on, name one. If indie games are the future of PC gaming, then this will defeat the whole purpose of PC gaming to begin with, which is to have games that actually showcase the power of the PC.

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Ghok

I've been warned of PC Gaming's death for almost as long as I've been a PC gamer. It sucks losing franchises like Rainbow 6, Deus Ex, and a slew of others to dumbed down console releases, but there are still plenty of good games out there. Valve really deserve the credit they get. And you know, those ports aren't nearly as bad as they used to be. PC Gaming is a hobby for enthusists, and that has its advantage and disadvantages.

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TheMiddleman

God snowboarders are so lame. "Oooo look at me with my backlighting... wooooo."

Go smoke some more pot you plank wanker.

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Lhot

....then they should pick a GREAT one like Planescape Torment.

 

Note to MaxPC:  Stop this traveling salesman spamtard before he ruins ur MAX cred  :)

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johnnyathm1

MAX cred...?! Really? I have been asking these guys to do something about this spamming problem for well over 6 months...and not a damn thing has been done about it:

From: Jon Phillips [mailto:jphillips@futureus.com]

Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 5:30 PM

To: Garn, John C SGT USA ; George Jones; Gordon

Ung; Michael Brown; Nathan Edwards; Alex Castle; Amber Bouman;

allan@maximumpc.com; Andrea Recio-Ang; Jose Urrutia; Ashley Kardel; MaxPC

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We are well aware of the problem, and are working toward fixes that go beyond the current model of community policing. One of the problems is the "mark as spam" button is so small, and people don't even know it's there, or exactly how it works. But we're on it, John. For the time being we all need to be aggressive in marking spam as spam. Thanks for your concern, your support, and your email.

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Folks,

 

  Is anything being done about the extensive spam that is showing up on your web page at maximumpc.com ? It is really starting to make the whole experience of coming to the site very unpleasant. Please let us, your readers and fellow tec-geeks, know if you are aware of the problem and you are intending to do something about it.

 

 

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Geeked at birth

  As you can see...nothing has been done, nothing. The sys admins should just fall on there swords...removing spam when you wake up in the morning is not a viable fix in my book. Thats like installing a louder sound system in your car to mask the bad sounds coming from your engine...doesnt fix the problem and eventually the whole thing breaks down. MaxPC allows this to happen, plain and simple...its not financially within their interests to fix the problem...who cares if a few complain.

And where the hell is this button he is talking about?!?!

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MarioJP

I rarely ever give feedback to articles but, wow this article took the words out of my mouth. I been thinking the same thing and thought I was alone on this one. To those that say k&m on console will kill pc gaming is not true. In fact Its about time consoles users start experiencing the way pc gamers play.

Whats going to keep PC gaming going is advancement in technology. The PC is advancing soo fast by the time k&m becomes naitive on consoles. PC will be moving to something else. The point is at this day and age anything is possible in fact I am very impress how PC can emulate consoles lol. That alone is amazing!. I was able to run a copy of Final Fantasy 10 using ps2 emulator running at solid 60 frames!.

Its this achievement that the PC has under its belt will keep it going. Who cares about the k&m going to consoles. Let them have it. Whats to stop a PC gamer from using a gamepad?

I do have to say that the gaming industry is changing in a direction we never seen before. Author is right about FB games and mobile gaming (even though mobile gaming is not my thing). Its like gaming is finally stepping down to those that never played games before.

Sony,Microsoft becoming dinosaurs?? maybe... One thing for sure though is the inovation for tripple A games has dropped. cod for instance has been recycled too much lmao. I don't feel like playing fps anymore because of this game. Whenever i think fps, call of duty pops in my head. Just wow unbelievable.

So.. the future of PC and PC gaming is emulation. Want true backwards compatibility?? PC FTW. I am so glad that the myth was busted of Sony saying how powerful the PS2 is at its time of launch. Wonder if history is repeating itself with the PS3

Bet you anything that once the Ps3 becomes obsolete you will see a PS3 emulator!, though don't get your hopes too high its going to be a long while. For now I am happy that there is a ps1 ps2 emulators= NO MORE PROPRIETARY HARDWARE!

Let us celebrate its funeral

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krash3x

Does anyone remember Oblivion on the xbox 360?  When you walked about 5 feet in a forest and then the game stutters and then loads everything then you walk another 5 feet samething happens until you make it on an open field.  How can anyone call that acceptable?  Well that was earlier in that game consoles life, they haven't completely figured out how to optimise the machine.  Well then comes Fallout 3.  Wasn't any better on any console, but Smooth on pc.  Fallout New Vegas?  The same sucked on consoles better on pc.  What caused the problems besides bad coding?  How about the fact that the 360 had 512 megs of shared ram and the ps3 had 256ram 256vram.  What about these wonder Cpu's in the consoles that are supposed to be magical and push out these unbelievible numbers making them perform better than a pc?  You can figure that out while your copy of mass effect 2 is still loading and my copy on pc loads in a few seconds.  I'll enjoy my smooth framerate with less jaggies, higher textures and anthroscopic filtering.  The thing is a pc is anything you want to make it, and you can put more money in it and make it better.  Consoles are obsolete when they are released, only giving you what the console maker wants to give you.  Look at the xbox360.  There is no excuse for that to only have 512 megs of ram when it was released computers then were averaging 3-4 times that.  Why did they do that?  Because it was cheap and people will buy it if microsoft fudges numbers up and says its cutting edge.   Lets look at quality.  My ps3 has served me well since I got it at launch no hardware failures.  My xbox 360 had to be sent back 3 times.  The 4th time it was about the time for launch for halo3 and I bought a halo edition xbox 360 and threw the other one away.  1 month turn around time for the console is not anywhere near what it should be.  Even after the problem was confirmed did microsoft fix the problem?  Nope! If my pc was over heating I would take it apart regoop the cpu and put in another fan.  You cant do that with a console. The wii dont get me started on that dvd drive with 1/8 of a netbook attached to it, with its deinterlacing artifacts and inablity to read dual layered discs after about a year.  Do you know why developers are flocking over to consoles?  Because they are lazy.  They don't want to have to develope for different processors and different ram sizes and different videocards.  Consoles are the same each year until the next generation comes out and maybe it will be what computers where at 3 years before its release.  Console makers and game companies like ea want you stuck to a single console not multiple consoles.  Why do you think that you buy a game on the ps3 and you can't play it on a ps3 when the game is released on ps3 also?  It doesn't matter what pc you have if you use Steam.  I have games installed on my pc that I built and I can install it on my laptop and on my next pc that I built.  Can you do that on console?  Nope!  New Ps3's dont have backwards compatiblity with older games, the 360's library is pretty large but there are some key titles that wont work and microsoft doesnt have any plans to fix that.  Nintendo, sure gamecube games work on the wii but nintendo and sony on the other hand want you to buy games that you bought already again.  When your console fails its not like you can buy a sony console because you didnt like the microsoft console and play your 360 game library on the ps3.  Did you ever wonder why?  Money!  Microsoft wants you to buy a new same generation console and continue buying games on the 360.  The Ps3 on the other hand would want you to buy thier console and their games making the switch seem like a losing decision.  I guess it just seems like game console makers want to lock you down not win you over.  If they could have it thier way, you wouldn't have a choice.  I buy asus or evga or corsair parts for my pc because I trust them and know they are good quality.  Consoles are made by Foxconn and other very low end low quality hardware makers.  The day that pc gaming dies is the day I stop gaming.  we are at the point now where moble phones are having on par performance with current consoles with no newones coming.  The next time around I think that the xbox and the playstation arent going to be as popular do the microsofts hardware problems and the ps3 lack luster library.  Nintendo and pc on the other hand are going to win because good fan base.  People will buy a nintendo console for mario and the legend of zelda, and metroid.  Pc gamers aren't going to downgrade them selves to a pos platform.  Pc is superiour hardware.  Nintendo superiour games

 

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deadsenator

Triple post of a verrrry large paragragh.  I agree with the general tone of your post, but please learn to format and frame your thoughts in a more readable fashion.

Peace!

 

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krash3x

Does anyone remember Oblivion on the xbox 360?  When you walked about 5 feet in a forest and then the game stutters and then loads everything then you walk another 5 feet samething happens until you make it on an open field.  How can anyone call that acceptable?  Well that was earlier in that game consoles life, they haven't completely figured out how to optimise the machine.  Well then comes Fallout 3.  Wasn't any better on any console, but Smooth on pc.  Fallout New Vegas?  The same sucked on consoles better on pc.  What caused the problems besides bad coding?  How about the fact that the 360 had 512 megs of shared ram and the ps3 had 256ram 256vram.  What about these wonder Cpu's in the consoles that are supposed to be magical and push out these unbelievible numbers making them perform better than a pc?  You can figure that out while your copy of mass effect 2 is still loading and my copy on pc loads in a few seconds.  I'll enjoy my smooth framerate with less jaggies, higher textures and anthroscopic filtering.  The thing is a pc is anything you want to make it, and you can put more money in it and make it better.  Consoles are obsolete when they are released, only giving you what the console maker wants to give you.  Look at the xbox360.  There is no excuse for that to only have 512 megs of ram when it was released computers then were averaging 3-4 times that.  Why did they do that?  Because it was cheap and people will buy it if microsoft fudges numbers up and says its cutting edge.   Lets look at quality.  My ps3 has served me well since I got it at launch no hardware failures.  My xbox 360 had to be sent back 3 times.  The 4th time it was about the time for launch for halo3 and I bought a halo edition xbox 360 and threw the other one away.  1 month turn around time for the console is not anywhere near what it should be.  Even after the problem was confirmed did microsoft fix the problem?  Nope! If my pc was over heating I would take it apart regoop the cpu and put in another fan.  You cant do that with a console. The wii dont get me started on that dvd drive with 1/8 of a netbook attached to it, with its deinterlacing artifacts and inablity to read dual layered discs after about a year.  Do you know why developers are flocking over to consoles?  Because they are lazy.  They don't want to have to develope for different processors and different ram sizes and different videocards.  Consoles are the same each year until the next generation comes out and maybe it will be what computers where at 3 years before its release.  Console makers and game companies like ea want you stuck to a single console not multiple consoles.  Why do you think that you buy a game on the ps3 and you can't play it on a ps3 when the game is released on ps3 also?  It doesn't matter what pc you have if you use Steam.  I have games installed on my pc that I built and I can install it on my laptop and on my next pc that I built.  Can you do that on console?  Nope!  New Ps3's dont have backwards compatiblity with older games, the 360's library is pretty large but there are some key titles that wont work and microsoft doesnt have any plans to fix that.  Nintendo, sure gamecube games work on the wii but nintendo and sony on the other hand want you to buy games that you bought already again.  When your console fails its not like you can buy a sony console because you didnt like the microsoft console and play your 360 game library on the ps3.  Did you ever wonder why?  Money!  Microsoft wants you to buy a new same generation console and continue buying games on the 360.  The Ps3 on the other hand would want you to buy thier console and their games making the switch seem like a losing decision.  I guess it just seems like game console makers want to lock you down not win you over.  If they could have it thier way, you wouldn't have a choice.  I buy asus or evga or corsair parts for my pc because I trust them and know they are good quality.  Consoles are made by Foxconn and other very low end low quality hardware makers.  The day that pc gaming dies is the day I stop gaming.  we are at the point now where moble phones are having on par performance with current consoles with no newones coming.  The next time around I think that the xbox and the playstation arent going to be as popular do the microsofts hardware problems and the ps3 lack luster library.  Nintendo and pc on the other hand are going to win because good fan base.  People will buy a nintendo console for mario and the legend of zelda, and metroid.  Pc gamers aren't going to downgrade them selves to a pos platform.  Pc is superiour hardware.  Nintendo superiour games

 

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krash3x

Does anyone remember Oblivion on the xbox 360?  When you walked about 5 feet in a forest and then the game stutters and then loads everything then you walk another 5 feet samething happens until you make it on an open field.  How can anyone call that acceptable?  Well that was earlier in that game consoles life, they haven't completely figured out how to optimise the machine.  Well then comes Fallout 3.  Wasn't any better on any console, but Smooth on pc.  Fallout New Vegas?  The same sucked on consoles better on pc.  What caused the problems besides bad coding?  How about the fact that the 360 had 512 megs of shared ram and the ps3 had 256ram 256vram.  What about these wonder Cpu's in the consoles that are supposed to be magical and push out these unbelievible numbers making them perform better than a pc?  You can figure that out while your copy of mass effect 2 is still loading and my copy on pc loads in a few seconds.  I'll enjoy my smooth framerate with less jaggies, higher textures and anthroscopic filtering.  The thing is a pc is anything you want to make it, and you can put more money in it and make it better.  Consoles are obsolete when they are released, only giving you what the console maker wants to give you.  Look at the xbox360.  There is no excuse for that to only have 512 megs of ram when it was released computers then were averaging 3-4 times that.  Why did they do that?  Because it was cheap and people will buy it if microsoft fudges numbers up and says its cutting edge.   Lets look at quality.  My ps3 has served me well since I got it at launch no hardware failures.  My xbox 360 had to be sent back 3 times.  The 4th time it was about the time for launch for halo3 and I bought a halo edition xbox 360 and threw the other one away.  1 month turn around time for the console is not anywhere near what it should be.  Even after the problem was confirmed did microsoft fix the problem?  Nope! If my pc was over heating I would take it apart regoop the cpu and put in another fan.  You cant do that with a console. The wii dont get me started on that dvd drive with 1/8 of a netbook attached to it, with its deinterlacing artifacts and inablity to read dual layered discs after about a year.  Do you know why developers are flocking over to consoles?  Because they are lazy.  They don't want to have to develope for different processors and different ram sizes and different videocards.  Consoles are the same each year until the next generation comes out and maybe it will be what computers where at 3 years before its release.  Console makers and game companies like ea want you stuck to a single console not multiple consoles.  Why do you think that you buy a game on the ps3 and you can't play it on a ps3 when the game is released on ps3 also?  It doesn't matter what pc you have if you use Steam.  I have games installed on my pc that I built and I can install it on my laptop and on my next pc that I built.  Can you do that on console?  Nope!  New Ps3's dont have backwards compatiblity with older games, the 360's library is pretty large but there are some key titles that wont work and microsoft doesnt have any plans to fix that.  Nintendo, sure gamecube games work on the wii but nintendo and sony on the other hand want you to buy games that you bought already again.  When your console fails its not like you can buy a sony console because you didnt like the microsoft console and play your 360 game library on the ps3.  Did you ever wonder why?  Money!  Microsoft wants you to buy a new same generation console and continue buying games on the 360.  The Ps3 on the other hand would want you to buy thier console and their games making the switch seem like a losing decision.  I guess it just seems like game console makers want to lock you down not win you over.  If they could have it thier way, you wouldn't have a choice.  I buy asus or evga or corsair parts for my pc because I trust them and know they are good quality.  Consoles are made by Foxconn and other very low end low quality hardware makers.  The day that pc gaming dies is the day I stop gaming.  we are at the point now where moble phones are having on par performance with current consoles with no newones coming.  The next time around I think that the xbox and the playstation arent going to be as popular do the microsofts hardware problems and the ps3 lack luster library.  Nintendo and pc on the other hand are going to win because good fan base.  People will buy a nintendo console for mario and the legend of zelda, and metroid.  Pc gamers aren't going to downgrade them selves to a pos platform.  Pc is superiour hardware.  Nintendo superiour games

 

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MrPC2010

Good article, PC games are sooooo much better than console games, I just can't understand why console are so popular, actually, talking of numbers, they are not that popular... There surely are more PC than consoles... But somehow, big game company always prioritize consoles... Anyway, I wouldn't touch most console games with a 10 feet pole... I prefer to play inovative, buggy and under budgeted games on the PC like Mortal Online than Halo 567, mario bros 956, final fantasy 89, etc.

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kris79

I'd rather post up here - cause the lazy may not read the rest, but it's really about gaming nuances. And YOU. You read MPC because you're the best and the brightest. Yeah, yeah - deal with it! You guys are good - otherwise the 1% of you wouldn't be reading this otherwise boring shit. You're the elite. And so is Nathan. I'm always amazed when reading his stuff that someone really knows more about this than I do. I think he's really 99 years old, otherwise, how is his insight possible?! Keep it up. You 1% (your forebears) are driving the other 99% of the world. It ain't just about gaming folks. Play the games now - run the world later (LOL)...

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chipmunkofdoom2

Eh, I'd agree with your article, except PC developers are doing no better. Yeah, there are a few fun to play, fast paced indy games, but there aren't any big budget games that knock my socks off anymore. Last one I can recall is Half Life 2. There hasn't been much innovation since then. Maybe Mass Effect, but that's it. Other than that, it's all poorly written console ports. Even PC legacy games, like Star Craft, aren't immune from gouging consumers with only semi-decent, overpriced 3 part series with crippling and cumbersome DRM.

I think it on a daily basis now, but I have not played a new PC game that I've liked in years. Consoles either for that matter. Gaming today just plain sucks.

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Vahn16

I agree with you that big-budget PC devs aren't doing much better, and that StarCraft II was the safest, least risk-taking sequel of the year, but that was sort of my whole point. Big-budget these days = a big waste of time.

Elsewhere, though, there's plenty of variety. Indie, mods, mobile gaming, downloadables, etc. So I definitely disagree with your assertion that gaming "just plain sucks." I think it's better than ever; it's just a matter of where you look.

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sweetjeebus

I don't think PC gaming will die until console makers make a few changes they should have done a long time ago. 1) Add native support for keyboard and mouse. 2) Allow the graphics card to be replaced.

I doubt this will happen for a while, or ever, but when it does, PC gaming will slow to a crawl. I spent around $1600 on my PC. If they could sell a console that could do the 2 things I mentioned, I wouldn't be willing to fork over $1600 on a new PC. Hell if they could make a console for 500 or 600, I would gladly pay it. I just want my mouse and keyboard with games that actually support it natively. You could even bundle it with a controller and make me pay extra for a keyboard and mouse that only works on your console. As long as it works as good as current PC setups, I would be happy. It would still cost less in the end. And if they threw a good processor and a decent amount of ram in it, allowing for an upgradeable GPU would extend the life of these consoles by about 5 years. Xbox and Playstation are on borrowed time with the current generation. They just can't keep up with PC's. The graphics are for shit nowadays when compared to current PC games. When the current gen consoles first launched the graphics weren't quite as good as PC games, but they weren't downright ugly in comparison like they are becoming. Sure that can't be said for every title, but compare mult-platform games. I have Bad Company 2 for my PC and for PS3. The latter I play with my friends who don't own a decent PC. I almost cringe when playing it on PS3 as the graphics are a jagged low-framerate mess in comparison. It's hard to tell if it is an enemy or a tree stump in the distance on the PS3 version. Anywho, that's my rant. Flame and call me an idiot at your discretion. Just my 2 cents.

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mesiah

I see this comment all the time. When are people going to realize that consoles already support keyboard and (most likely) mouse? Plug a usb keyboard in on the xbox dashboard and you can pound out a message to your buddy. When I played final fantasy 11 on xbox I used keyboard exclusively for that game. The same works on ps2, you can use any run of the mill usb keyboard. The problem is, game makers have to enable the use of keyboard and mouse for their game. And that isn't going to happen. There have been studies that pit controler players against keyboard / mouse players in all kind of games and guess what the result was? Thats right, the controler players got crushed every time. They were putting hardcore gamers up against casual gamers in popular FPSs and the casual gamers were murdering them. So, in the interest of not creating an unfair advantage, the game manufacturers fail to map keyboard controls and don't leave the user with a way to do it themselves. I haven't experimented with the mouse, but I could almost gaurantee it is the same way. xbox / ps3 can see the input, and they know what to do with it. But game manufacturers refuse to support it. So stop bitching for MS and Sony to give you keyboard and mouse and start bitching at the game studios.

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sweetjeebus

Well, that's basically what I meant. I want the game devs to start supporting mouse and keyboard in game. Why do you think they don't support it though? I know for one that MS is totally against it, which discourages devs to add support. And I think that there have been like less than 10 console games to support mouse and keyboard. I don't care if a keyboard can type out text on my console; I want it to play games. So I guess I'm just dreaming, but bro! Why so hostile? Maybe chill a bit and just realize other people have opinions. I know your opinion is way more important than mine.

All I got to say is UMADBRO?

Yes you are, and it amuses me. I can just tell by the douchey tone of your comment, you will be writing back with mad anger son! But guess what, I'm done with this topic. Have fun. DONTBESOMADBRO!

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mesiah

The part that makes the keyboard / mouse combo so effective is the second part of the equation, the mouse. Having analog sticks for movement really works better than wasd since you can control speed with them. What I think would be absolutely innovative is to replace the right analog stick with a trackball for precision aiming. I think that would do a lot to level the playing field between pc and console.

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mesiah

lol, I'm not mad at all. It just amuses me that everyone assumes that keyboard and mouse don't work with their console, and immediately blames MS and Sony for failing to support them. I have seen your comment voiced many times by many people. As for why it isn't implemented, I already said why it isn't. Implementing keyboard / mouse control for most games would create an unfair advantage for those that use them. It would effectively spell the end for people who like to go head to head while sitting on the couch. And if you need a keyboard and a mouse to compete, what is the point of spending the money on a console? If you are interested, I included a link to a story from a while back where MS did a study on console vs pc going head to head. Sorry if I sounded douchy in my previous post, it wasn't my intention. I merely wish to rid the world of the false notion that keyboard / mouse does not work natively with current (or even previous) gen consoles.

http://gizmodo.com/5593116/were-pc-gamers-too-good-for-microsofts-cross+platform-gaming-project

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deadsenator

You didn't sound douchy at all.  He sounded more like a troll (even bracing for flames) while extolling some minor points.  You did fine and sounded quite reasonable. Good on you.

Console gaming stinks.  PC gaming is where you'll find the educated and enthusiastic crowd.  There will always be a market for it.  Even if the big players move away from it, someone else will pop up and produce.  Crysis and Serious Sam are good examples of this.  Fun games that came out of nowhere.  In addition, I have been playing new CoD WaW Zombie maps for three+ years.  There are something like 175 new maps.  Not all great, but user content increases PC gaming playability by heaps.

That said, I still lament the demise of Rainbow 6 and other good tactical FPS games.  Especially LOCAL AREA NETWORK games.  I do not want online servers.  I want one for me and my local friends.

Whew.  That felt good. ;~P

 

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imagonex

I would be cheering at the funeral of mediocrity in gaming a lot better if Scarlett Johansson was here with me. Just a thought.

PS. Scarlett, call me!! XOXO!

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imagonex

ACK!! Die spammer! Die! I wish these asinine spammers would take their snake oil sales spamming caravan elsewhere than on MaximumPC.  

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I Jedi

Creative title, I should say. You had me crying out for blood when I heard the words "funeral" and "PC" used in one sentence. Anyway, you make an excellent point, but I think what you have to remember is that the current trend of customers WANT these types of games, and that is why companies are pushing out so many of these big titles. It's not as if EA, Microsoft, Bungie, etc, just decided that for now on only realistic FPS shooters shall be released; customers want these types of games.

Of course, I long for the days of a good story, like Halo: CE. I have Mass Effect to make up for this void, but it alone cannot satisfy my thirst for a great, futuristic story on a yearly basis for 15 hours of unplayed gameplay. PC gaming will one day come back as a dominant force, as it always does. Games were meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse, and I know that one day many will see this and return to her again.

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markstrelecki

"Cheering at Funerals" ??

Sometimes, I think the entire staff at MaxPC, other than Gordon and the podcast crew, drink WAY too much caffienated beverage every day.

Writing with an attitude: good.

Manic, over the top, end-of-the-world stuff: Not So Much.

It's MAXimumPC, not ExtremePC.

Let's ramp it back just a bit, shall we?

Many Thanks!

 

MARK STRELECKI ATLANTA GA.

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novatvstdios

maximum pc to the extreme

 

 

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Stry8993

But I recently got an XBox 360, and Halo: Reach, I'm a PC Gamer, through and through. Even stopped to notice how, er herm, "Low Res" Reach's graphics were. But I have to defend Halo here. It doesn't string itself on Highly Scripted Events, where in CoD:BO outright depends on them. Halo is futuristic, which can be said about Killzone as well BUT, when Halo came out, people cried "WTF" in the greatest way possible. Nothing since GoldenEye had establish the FPS genre on Consoles, and no one really did it since. Heck I think half the reason the CoD series outsells Halo is because its not an exclusive title.

But the Call of Duty series I believe will hit the wringer, much like Tony Hawk... and yes, Guitar Hero did. You can only make a dog do a backflip so often before... well, it becomes just another dog doing the same old backflip.

But things like Skate came onto the scene, and totally took THPS's thunder, not because it was just another Skateboarding game, because it was THEE game. It was very centric on the feel of it.

But I am sick of the nitty gritty, run-of-the-mill FPS experience. The dark, saturated color pallets, moody, often depressing atmosphere. Its actually a turn off in some ways. Compels me not to play the game.

And I said the same thing with SSX, with the new trailer... just bring back SSX Tricky. You don't have to fix what isn't broken.

We're seeing the rise of making a game SOLELY based on profit, and we all know that an Artist makes most of his money, LONG after he dies.

Psychonauts anyone?

 

 

PS Thank you for adding the Captcha, the whole selling shoe's and purses is rediculous, sell me a graphics card FFS... you've got the wrong industry clientel targeted for Gucci Purses lol.

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Dac

Good writeup.  I think we're on that downhill slide where console designed games are becoming so over-recycled that even the mindless console game consumer zombie horde will start to feel alienated.  People will once again realize that the true quality digital interactive entertainment is on the PC.  And of course all the EA's, Activisions and Microsofts will look to the PC, plucking out the creative ideas that they deem most marketable, and then starting the cycle over. 

OK, will someone make an indie game called Console Game Consumer Zombie Horde?  CGCZH?  It would be like, waves of expressionless teen & 20-somethings shambling into Wal-Mart, each with $60 in their outstretched hand, and you are at the doors trying to fight them off.  And if they reach the Electronics section they each spend their $60 on $5 worth of gameplay and you loose.  Or they loose.

or whatever.

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