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Ask the Doctor: RAM Timing Again

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Ask the Doctor LogoI’m building a new system consisting of an Intel Q9650 processor, an EVGA 790i Ultra SLI mobo, an EVGA GTX 280 videocard, 2GB of Corsair Twin 3X2048-1600C7DHXG memory, a SoundBlaster X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI soundcard, three SATA 500GB 5000AAKS Western Digital hard drives, and a retail version of Windows XP Pro with SP2. My BIOS is Phoenix Award. I have all default settings for everything in the BIOS except I disabled HD Audio.

When I try to load Windows, I get a generic blue screen that tells me to run a system diagnostic, do a memory check, and remove any mismatched memory or newly installed hardware. I’m wondering if I might have a conflict with the Corsair memory. The motherboard’s spec sheet states that it supports dual-channel DDR3 800/1,066/1,333, and SLI-ready memory up to 2,000MHz.

In a recent review of the 790i Ultra, you used 2GB of Crucial 1,333MHz on the mobo. Was this memory EPP 2.0, or do you need EPP 2.0 at slower speeds? My RAM is rated at 1,600MHz, but the BIOS tells me that EPP 2.0 is not detected. I have the latest BIOS version, but there is no listing for enabling SLI memory under the Advanced Chipset section in the FSB & Memory Config subsection. Does this appear if EPP 2.0 memory is detected? Can I run higher-speed non-EPP 2.0 memory, or would this create a conflict with Windows?

I also read in the “BIOS Tweaks” article (November 2008) that not addressing the AHCI issue could cause Windows to not load. I would like to eventually set up a RAID, but can I disable AHCI to load Windows or do I need to load AHCI drivers at the
F6 point?

—Thomas DeKalb
 
The Doctor’s gut feeling is that you have a RAM timing issue. To eliminate any problems, you should make sure you are running default timings and speeds for the RAM and front-side bus. Go into the BIOS and set the RAM at DDR3/1333 and set the timing at default values and make sure that SLI memory is disabled. You should now be able to install XP without issues.
 
Once you’re up and running, you can increase your clocks. Remember that to get the higher speeds out of DDR3 (at least with Core 2 machines), you’ll need to increase the voltage to the modules. For the 1600C7DHXG, you’ll need to run it at 1.80 volts, with a timing of 7-7-7-20.
 
As far as RAID support goes, Nvidia does not support AHCI with its chipsets. But one of the pluses of the nForce chipset is that you can configure the SATA ports as RAID after the fact.
 
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avatarHe said...

Hey Doc! You told him to ensure that SLI Memory was disabled in the BIOS, but he already told you that it does not show up in his BIOS Advanced Settings. 

He said: "but there is no listing for enabling SLI memory"

You Said: "and make sure that SLI memory is disabled"

29twed9nhell

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avatarYou shoulda just went with

You shoulda just went with an AMD system. Wouldn't have had that problem and prolly saved quite a few bucks in the process.

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avatarThe problem with an AMD

The problem with an AMD system is the fact that AMDs fastest processor still isnt as fast a Q9650.  I went thru a similar delemna about 6 months ago.  I have an Asus X48 mobo and had to make a choice between buying an i7, a Phenom2 or just dropping in a Q9650.  I chose the Q9650 as it was an easy upgrade and still faster than a Phenom2 and cheaper than an i7.

The Doc has the correct answer though.  790i mobos are picky about memory.  I would check and make sure your ram is approved to be used on this mobo.  Dumbing/slowing down the ram is a good start.  I would also try booting the machine with only a single stick of ram in it.  I would avoid doing anything RAID for the time being until you get the machine working correctly.  

Unfortunately this may not work and you will need to either get different RAM or a different mobo.  Personnaly I hate the 6XX/7XX series of mobos.  I have had 1 of each and both sucked.  The 680i corrupted my HDs when I overclocked and the 780 was not a good over clocker.  I had to drop one of my 8800 GTXs when I went to the X48 but at least it worked and will OC the Q9650 to 4ghz with ease.  Made the switch to a pair of 4870s and honestly it will take a hell of a product before I buy Nvidia again.  If you only plan on running 1 video card I would look at a P45 that takes DDR3 and have something stable and fast.  Nvidia to stick with making video cards, not designing crappy chipsets.

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