Ask the Doctor: 64-Bit Choice
I’m currently debating whether to install XP x64 or Vista x64 on my main rig. I will be playing a lot of games, including Counter-Strike, Left 4 Dead, and Far Cry 2, and doing some video editing with Sony Vegas and Adobe After Effects. I’ve tried Vista x64, but issues with Creative soundcards have haunted me for the past week and a half. I still haven’t tried XP x64, but I’ve heard that there’s less support for it compared to Vista x64. I’ve already confirmed that some of my crucial programs do run on XP x64, but what about devices like the printer and camera? I have an E8400 overclocked to 4GHz, 8GB of G.Skill RAM, and an ATI Radeon HD 4850.
Despite our misgivings with Vista in the past, many of us, including the Doctor, have been impressed by the improvements to the OS in the past year. 64-bit XP never really got the support it deserved from software developers and hardware makers.
64-bit Vista, on the other hand, has much better device support, is more stable, and came out at a time when 64-bit processing had become much more mainstream. And although Creative hasn’t been great about Vista 64 drivers, the company released a beta driver with Vista 64 support in late November. You should check the manufacturer websites for your printer and camera to make sure they have 64-bit Vista drivers. Given your 8GB of RAM and DirectX 10-capable videocard, as well as the games you like to play, the Doctor thinks you’ll really benefit from Vista 64.
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lover01
July 07, 2009 at 10:24pm
The study showed that the prevalence of sexual activity declined with age (73% ages 57-64, 53% 65-74, .... The other choice in my town is associated with a Catholic ... think to tell their doctor that sex has become a tad bit painful .... As far as the woman who would be embarassed to ask her doctor ...
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themasterjosh
June 11, 2009 at 10:54am
Microsofts Zune software isn't available on 64 bit XP but is available on Vista x64.
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thecliogeek
June 07, 2009 at 7:11am
I have been using 64bit xp pro for years and never really had an issue. I have yet to see a driver I can't get. I even played Everquest 1, 2, QuildWars, Vanguard, FryCry 1, 2 and more and NEVER had an issue. What I did/do notice is that everything WILL run better memory wise. I use Win7 64bit RC now on an i7 and 6 gb of ram and have yet to come close to using it all at one time. I guess if you did HD video editing you could but 99% of users won't neeed over that. I use an older HP printer, old Kodak camera, any of the cell phones I have never had an issue with accessing files or use on them. The biggest thing is YOU have to learn that most driver disks are useless with a 64 bit OS. Go to the website of manufacturer and look it up. I have also used Creative sound cards forever with a 64 bit OS and haven't had an issue. If you can't figure it out, take it to a shop in your area and they will do it for you. If it was that big of an issue, it would have been fixed. Yes, there may be some still with issues, but they will be rare. If you can't find a driver/program for your 64 bit OS, Use a better company for your parts/programs. But don't complain that it is still buggy or has major issues.
I say this for one reason... take the plunge. Chances are you won't have any issues.
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wetjet550
May 11, 2009 at 12:27pm
I went 64 bit about 2 years ago with xp. After you load your system up with 12 gigs of ddr3 memory, you'll never go back either! (Considering you have a mobo that will support 12gigs of ddr3!)
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Pyrophorics
May 27, 2009 at 10:41am
WTF? LoL, 12gb ram? Can you say complete overkill? Even with the page file off and 5 of my favorite games loaded at the same time including adobe in the background ... I cant use 8gb of ram.
Either you are running a server sir or trying to flex your e-go :)
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rob41
April 22, 2009 at 9:01pm
Good advice doctor.
I was a XP holdout but I now enjoy the improvements made to Vista. There are a lot of tweaks that greatly improve it's function and usefulness.
Additionally, your games and benchmarks will see a little improvement now that sp1 is in place.
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atomaweapon
April 21, 2009 at 1:03pm
I think you guys should have a big article in the mag about moving to 64 bit. I've searched for good articles on the pros and cons and have come up short. Im interested in everything from games running to drivers and would be nice to get a defintive reliable article from someone who's really pretty it through the paces.
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Keith E. Whisman
April 20, 2009 at 12:56pm
I guess it depends on your own skills but my experience with 64bit computing has been a very happy one and a very fun transistion. It sure did take a long long time. But so did 16bit OS's to 32bit.
If your programs are not compatible and you got these programs a long time ago I would say it's time to get the latest versions.
If you decide not to upgrade to 64bit don't go out into the world and complain that 64bit Vista is a piece of crap because it wont run my 15year old software. I'm sick of hearing from people like that and you know who you are. Upgrade already. I'm sorry you paid $1500dollars for that software. Your going to have to do it again. Get over it.
We've upgraded from the Enterprise of the 1960's Original Series to the Enterprise of The Next Generation the D model. Get with the program mister.
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nekollx
April 20, 2009 at 1:15pm
tough to be fair some programs dont have upgrades...
My familay bought me Alien Vs Predator for the PC years ago.
Not XP compatible
i emaield them and they said they had NO INTENTIONS of updating it for XP
couse this was before Compatability mode, i should try dropping that thing in my vista laptop and seeing how compatibility fares as well as my win 98 startrek screen saver
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Keith E. Whisman
April 20, 2009 at 1:34pm
Vista compatability mode is awesome. I never could get MS Close Combat games to run in WinXP even with XP's compatability mode. In Vista befor SP1 even came out I was playine Close Combat with compatability mode. I haven't tried it in 64bit Vista yet but I don't see why it wont work. But there are some differences between 32bit and 64bit Vista.
I have Aliens Vs Predator Gold Edition and it works good in Vista 32 with compatability mode.
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Keith E. Whisman
April 20, 2009 at 12:29pm
If you want your programs to have access to more than 2.5 to 3gigs of memory and you have more memory then that then you do need a 64bit operating system. I use 64bit Vista, 64bit Win7 beta and 64bit Ubuntu in a triple boot with 8gigs ram.
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nekollx
April 20, 2009 at 12:37pm
and before you go bitching about "wah it wont run in Vista 64" do us all a favor and try
Right Click->Properties->Compatability
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santosmm
April 20, 2009 at 8:03am
It's necessary to have XP or Vista x64 running in a PC with more than 2GB on memory???
It's possible to have a 4, 6, 8 or new 16GB emory PC running under x32 SO ???
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nekollx
April 20, 2009 at 9:02am
It's possible to have a 4, 6, 8 or new 16GB emory PC running under x32 SO ???
no
try it all all you have is 4GB of ram (less videocard)
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pcfxer
April 20, 2009 at 6:52am
[quote]64-bit XP never really got the support it deserved from software developers and hardware makers.[/quote]
Based on what? A few niche hardware devices aren't supported, big deal. I am using a printer, digital camera, etc. without any issues on PC-BSD amd64 and Windows x64. 64-bit XP had great support since two-three years ago. Before then, support was shoddy.
Even when you choose to search for drivers on nVidia's website the drop down box defaults Windows x64 XP. XP x64 is based on Windows Server 2003 anyhow, so you get a much more solidified platform.
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djvoigt
April 24, 2009 at 9:43pm
I wish to upgrade to 64 bit, but I have been searching for answers to saving my programs and re-installing the files after the new install.I am also trying to find answers to whether I can upgrade my 4gig of ram to more once I switch?
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Defiant
April 20, 2009 at 9:36am
The NVidia website detects what operating system you are running and selects it for you in that list, the default is whatever your computer is running.














