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AMD Radeon HD 3850

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We were so pleased with the price/performance ratio of AMD’s Radeon HD 3870 that we awarded Asus’s implementation of it a 9 Kick Ass verdict in our January 2008 issue. We’re not nearly as impressed with the gaming performance of the architecture’s cheaper cousin, the Radeon HD 3850.

The two GPUs share many features, including the same number of stream processors (320), the same 256-bit memory interface, and AMD’s Unified Video Decoder (for offloading all HD-video decoding from the host CPU). Both parts also provide HDCP support on both DVI links, so Blu-ray and HD DVD movies can be displayed on a 30-inch panel at the screen’s native resolution.

And like the 3870, the cheaper 3850 supports PCI Express 2.0, Direct3D 10.1, and Shader Model 4.0 (none of Nvidia’s GPUs support the latter two features, although it will be a long time before this advantage really means anything). But while the 3870 reference design features 512MB of GDDR4 memory and a dual-slot cooler, the 3850 board we received was outfitted with just 256MB of GDDR3 memory, a single-slot cooler and relatively tame core, and memory clock speeds of 670MHz and 829MHz, respectively.

For gaming, the Radeon HD 3870 was at least competitive with Nvidia’s 8800 GT, but the Radeon HD 3850 is a laggard when it comes to gaming at the native resolution of a 24-inch screen (1920x1200). The frame rates we achieved were roughly half of what we obtained with the 8800 GT. If the 3850 cost half as much as an 8800 GT (average street price: $260), this card would garner a Kick Ass award, but at press time, the average street price for these boards was $190. The extra $70 not only buys a faster GPU, but a frame buffer that’s twice as large.

If gaming isn’t your bag, the Radeon 3850 is a fine GPU for watching high-definition movies. But we prefer videocards that can do it all.

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On paper, the Radeon HD 3850 looks remarkably similar to the Radeon HD 3870, but key differences in clock speeds and memory render the former a tortoise and the latter a hare.

AMD Radeon HD 3850
www.amd.com
plus
Rodeo Burger

Unified Video Decoder, support for PCI Express 2.0 and DirectX 10.1.

minus
Rodeo Clown

Only 256MB GDDR3; laggy at 1920x1200; $70 more will get you a much faster Nvidia 8800 GT.

verdict:7

Windows XP (DirectX 9)
  AMD Radeon HD 3850 GeForce 8800 GT
3DMark06 Game 1 (FPS) 14.4 30.0
3DMark06 Game 2 (FPS) 16.7 22.9
World in Conflict (FPS) 14.0 32.0
Lost Planet (FPS) 16.2 34.3

Windows Vista (DirectX 10)
  Radeon HD 3850 GeForce 8800 GT
3DMark06 Game 1 (FPS) 15.6 28.0
3DMark06 Game 2 (FPS) 16.4 22.3
World in Conflict (FPS) 7.0 20.0
Lost Planet (FPS) 12.0 22.0
Best scores are bolded. AMD-based cards tested with an Intel D975BX2 motherboard; Nvidia-based cards tested with an EVGA 680i SLI motherboard. Intel 2.93GHz Core 2 Extreme X6800 CPUs and 2GB of Corsair DDR RAM used in both scenarios. Benchmarks performed at 1920x1200 resolution on ViewSonic VP2330wb monitors.
COMMENTS
avatarthis card is cheaper than

this card is cheaper than the review has suggested. it was even as cheap on sale in december as $143. i have one and for the price it can not be matched. it is an underclocked 3870, the only other difference is the ddr4 versus the ddr3, which in most tests hasn't shown hardly any difference according to most websites. and at the inflated prices of the 8800gt they shouldn't even be compared at this time, seeing as the prices for the 3850 are closer to the 8600gt than anything else and it smokes that card.

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avatarcheaper with more vid ram

now you can find it for around $120 with 512mbs of 256 bit ram. this should please those looking at it.

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avatarOverclock?

What would happen if you overclocked this GPU? Would it then be comparable to the 8800GT? I've heard of the 3870's overclocking ridulously and I was wondering if you could do the same with it's little brother. This card is in my price range of sub $200 and I really need to upgrade my card to play some crysis properly! I'm not much of a gamer but Crysis is addictive so any other suggestions would be welcome for this price range as well.

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avatarHD3850

You should be able to pick up one of these cards for ~$160. At that price, it's maybe a little unfair to compare the HD3850 with the 512MB version of the 8800GT. For right around ~$199, there are several factory overclocked versions of the HD3850 available and those come equiped with 512MB of GDDR3. Other online reviews have suggested that some of the factory overclocked HD3850's are faster than stock clocked HD3870's.

I don't disagree that the 256MB version of this card isn't the best choice at resolutions greater than 1280 x 1024, but for a budget minded buyer, when you make the comparison to NVidia's offerings at this price range ($160) this card is an amazing value IMHO. Within this price range, you're looking at an 8600GTS or an HD3850, at least for the moment. For those that fall into the category of "casual gamer" or those looking to upgrade from an older mainstream card (think 7 series or older x6xx NVidia or X8**/X7** series ATI cards) this isn't a bad choice.

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