12 Ways Consoles Are Hurting PC Gaming

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cpuking2010

STEAM STEAM STEAM, enough said consoles lose PC WINS!

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compguytracy

Crysis 2, On my pc, 3.1ghz dual core intel, 4gb ram, 1gb radeon5770, money shot after coming out of the tunnel in first mission, skyline of NYC, jawdropping, breathtaking, can actually hear my gpu fan crank up to handle it, no glitch, no bs, unfortunately, using a control pad from xbox, but control pad works for me, PS3, not even close, good enough for sports champions, but seeing black ops on my rig, and on PS3, hands down, pc wins, suck it console fan boys, underpowered, laggy, unresponsive, toys. 

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bingojubes

i don't see how the console is better as much as some console gamers think - they forget that computers actually were used to make their games, so they really should be thanking PCs and possibly MACs for creating their favorite and popular games. when console games are created by console units, i think then there would be a valid argument. while Halo Forge might be a great tool, it makes maps, not games. Forge was created using computers.

 

so computers in general should continue to outshine consoles, and it does suck that consoles are the new wave

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Neufeldt2002

Good article, the only things that get me going are the ports that have crappy bugs, clunky controls, and the fact that graphics are stuck in the past. I think that is the majority of the problems. Every time I hear how great the consols are for gaming, I just remind them that if it wasn't for us computer geeks their games would still look like minecraft or worse. (Nothing against minecraft)

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I Jedi

First off, I applaud you, Nathan, for having the balls to post such an article on a tech. website where the majority of gamers here are PC gamers. It takes real courage and you should be congratulated.

While I understand that PC gaming has taken a hit from the console front, such as the respects you have shown, I think we need to realize that there are some great points to be made. To begin, we have some great studios supporting PC gaming, such as Valve, Bioware and Blizzard. All of which have produced great titles, such as Starcraft II, World of Warcraft, Portal, Half-Life and Mass Effect. There are even other great titles such as Total War, Crysis, and League of Legends.

While some of these popular titles are for the console systems, too, all were very influential in the PC market as well. On top of just having great titles to work with, you have open source gaming, many games are free-to-play online, such as Counter-Strike: Source, ability to modify game content, such as skins, haxes, etc.Next, you have stiff competition between AMD's ATI and Nvidia, Republic of Gamers, gaming league matches hosted for pro-gamers, etc.

While I understand you're not trying to downplay PC gaming, just show how consoles have hurt PC gaming, I don't think PC gaming can ever be truly counted out. No matter how much consoles may try to assert themselves in the gaming market, PC gaming will always be here. Does it suck that Microsoft can't support gaming on the PC, yes. Does it suck that EA tries to nickel and dime their way through a customer's pocket, yes; however, there are many choices in a publisher to be had, even in this day and age for PC gaming. I use to be a console gamer, and now that I have experienced the richness that PC gaming can offer me, I have not looked back. I may long for the day to play Halo 3 on the PC or Gears of War 2 and 3, but I have many other great titles to look forward to, so why get caught up on gaming publishers who have turned their back on PC gamers?

Thank you for your article, it was informative about the issues that have plagued PC gaming, even if I already knew most of the points.

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Zachary K.

It's OK that you have a device to place games on the cheap and simple, but FOCUS ON PC. let the 2nd rate devices get the 2nd rate port.

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Engelsstaub

I'm sure that could be sustainable in Maximum PC's-version-of-reality-World.

Here in Western Society we have this reality called capitalism. It's what drives people to develop games. The platforms that sell are going to be focused on. It is what it is.

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airbornprimate

This is the sad reality of it. The more idiot frat boys/screeching 12 year olds on XBL there are, the more crappy games will be made for them with the PC as an afterthought.

 

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Dartht33bagger

Honeslty, I have pretty much stopped playing my Xbox 360.  I used to play that thing non stop because I couldn't play games on a keyboard and mouse.  Then when I finally got a new computer that could actually play games and learned how to use the controls, my Xbox 360 is a dust collector.  I've even rebought a bunch of games that I already had on my Xbox (Mass effect 1, Left 4 dead 1, Bioshock, Oblivion, Fallout 3, the orange box) on the PC because the controls and the games were so much more fun.  I couldn't stand Mass Effect on the Xbox 360 because of the terrible controls and the slow interfaces.  Once I got it on the PC, I couldn't put the game down.

 

I have gone through 3 Xbox 360's and I still think console games have their own share of the market in some games that I buy.   For example, I bought MW2 for my Xbox because the online support was much better (I also can't snipe for crap on a mouse, but I can do it really well on a controller).  I think there is space for both in the world, but when your making a PC port at least make it good.  Don't leave "Press B to go back" in the PC version of the game.

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thinsoldier

All this brings me back to the same question I've been asking for almost a decade.

Why don't consoles allow you to to plug in a keyboard and mouse?

It just don't get it. Why the limitation? Even if they don't push developers to make the games work with a mouse they could at least let me use the keyboard if I want to type something.

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ifailatliving

what the hell are you talking about? get a life

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bpstone

There is no need to beat around the bush. Consoles have taken over the gaming market. I'm not going to develop a game then not get all the potential profit from it. Spending $5,000.00+ vs $300.00 for a gaming PC is pointless when the games aren't there. I like having a good solid rig, but super expensive gaming rigs aren't worth it.

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hugeace007

People thinking that a $5000 pc is required to play pc games is what is killing pc games.

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bpstone

It was an over-exaggerated example. You get my point nonetheless. 

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thinsoldier

Maximum PC should announce that they will no longer be reviewing or promoting "gaming" pc's that cost over $1,200 because they are harmful to the public's perception of the PC Gaming industry.

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bling581

Cripes, I spent $3,500 and I thought THAT was overdoing it!

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I Jedi

Thank you, hugeace007, because you point out a great point. I have a two year old PC, that still retains all of the same old gaming parts it did when I got it, and I am still able to play new titles on full even today.

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Engelsstaub

Console games aren't killing PC gaming. Most of the people playing on consoles wouldn't be playing at all if their only choice was to build or buy an expensive PC that needs constant upgrades. The GPUs alone cost more than any console.

People want value for their money. Considering a large amount of gamers are under 18, they're even less likely to spend well over a grand on a computer. I sure as hell wouldn't buy my kids a PC to play games on before I'd just get them an XBox or PS3. 

PC gamers are always going to be a minority. Rather than complain, try to envision yourselves as that "elite" niche market that you really are. Just stop acting like some sort of martyrs. The gaming software industry is going to go where the money is. I know we all understand that but I think we need to learn to accept it and move on.

Christ. I'm positive almost everyone writing these articles is younger than I am. Yet it's always you guys who want the kids to get off your imaginary yards. "Macs aren't real computers and console gamers aren't real gamers." I think that just about covers the MO of this publication lately. 

Is it possible that PC games aren't being marketed as well as console games? Maybe. I'm thinking the real "problem" is just that people would rather upgrade an expensive console every six years than there super-expensive PC every 1 to 2 years.

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Rogue74

True console gamers don't replace their PC every 1 to 2 years, they replace their Xbox 360 once or twice a year. My sister has gone through three RROD 360s in two years. She's on number four. I've had the same PC, which still plays anything at high settings for four years and have only had to replace the PSU. So that argument doesn't really fly nowadays.

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jaygregz

Rogue.. dont over exaggerate. Your console comes with at least a 1 year warranty. If your replacing it before then it's free so you can't consider that.

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Engelsstaub

Exactly. I've personally been through 6. ALL replaced at Microsoft's expense. They had extended the warranties beyond that implied precisely because of the RRoD.

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Rogue74

Yeah if your 360 is kind enough to die under warranty, that's great. None of her's were under warranty when they failed. I don't play console games, so I have no idea how long the warranty is.

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lunchbox73

Oh man, don't get me started about the lousy controls for Dead Space. It's a great game but the controls suuuuuck.

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francisco6007

well i have both a pc and a console. my console is a WII which i love and get my fix of old school games, which are still my favorite. but when i go to the "hardcore games" i always go to my pc with DX 11 on it. which destroys every console game out there. and yes uts true consoles are cheaper and conviniet but its wrong in mhy opinion for developers to lower their standars on their pc games for sake of consoles.

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Engelsstaub

Right or wrong is really inapplicable. It's capitalism. They understandably go where the money is. (BTW, I have both a "gaming PC" and a console as well.

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jaygregz

I'm not going to lie here. I <3 Console gaming.. Sometimes. I own both an xbox 360 and a computer gaming rig that can run anything I throw at it in max or near max settings.  I do play a lot of computer gaming but at the same time I feel that I'm being let down for a couple of reasons.  I have a really expensive computer chair.. the only thing is that even expensive computer chairs get uncomfortable after enough hours. My back hurts and it only gets worse as you sit there. Nextly.. must I pay for teamspeak? It's hands down the best voice solution for pc. It's also pretty affordable.. the only thing is, I shouldn't need to pay for it at all. Developers should bundle their own voice software (I know some do) and it should be at least as equal in quality as team speak. Alright.. so here's what the pc has going for it. One Acronym- MMO's. The console can't hold a candle to the experience you get with an MMO on the computer. They have tried before but lets face it. They can't.  The problem with MMO's though is that its the only area I really see the computer beating the console in and it's the one area of pc gaming where they throttle down the specs so much that anyone can play it. So that expensive gaming rig that I have really isn't necessary to have. I could have a sub 500 dollars system for MMO's and a console for everything else.

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Ghok

Yeah, bad console ports have made me a "wait until it's 20 bucks" gamer when it comes to anything cross platform. I don't care much about lack of graphic innovation, because I've never made a computer over 1000 bucks. I just I can't help but notice that the consoles have brought very few positive trends to the PC.

I remember a decade ago it would have been a sin to not include a quicksave feature on a PC game. Certainly I've played many games where the lack of quicksave wasn't a big deal, but i's the ones where it becomes an annoyance that stick out.

At the same time, they haven't brought over the things about consoles I really like. My computer has two screens, why can't I co-op with a friend off the same machine? I'd love some more party games like Rock Band. A niche market, I'll grant you...

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thinsoldier

Yes this really pisses me off. My system has the power to simultaneously run Dirt2, Grid, and Need For Speed: Shift yet 99% of console ports do not include split screen multiplayer. Not even Halo 1. I have 2 screens (and ability to add more), multiple keyboards, multiple mice, 2 box 360 controllers, 3 logitech controllers but most games have no local multiplayer!

FYI: Split/Second has split screen 2 player on pc.

And if you want maximum local co-op fun just go grab some emulators. 4-player Ninja Turtles arcade, Killer Instinct, nes, snes, genesis, neo geo, n64, playstation 1, etc.

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TommM

Man, what a timely article after the mess with the Dragon Age 2 and Crysis 2 releases.  Both being awful ports of console games.

It's to the point now where I won't pre-order or buy a game on the day of release.  I'll wait a few days or even weeks until I hear from the critics - especially users - before I drop $50-$60 on a crappy console port no matter who makes it.

For iceman - you can build a gaming PC for the cost of a console and all of it's accessories.  Just check the Maximum PC build articles.  That's not a valid excuse any longer with the drop in PC component prices.

 

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bling581

"It's to the point now where I won't pre-order or buy a game on the day of release.  I'll wait a few days or even weeks until I hear from the critics - especially users - before I drop $50-$60 on a crappy console port no matter who makes it."

Same for me, except when it's a Blizzard or BioWare game...oh wait, did I say BioWare? I mean just Blizzard.

For real though, I bought Dragon Age 2 the day it was released and have played it through 3 times. I can see where it fails compared to Origins but I don't find it to be as bad as everyone is making it out to be. The recycling of levels is pretty bad and the quests are bland, but I enjoyed the storyline and gameplay. They greatly improved a lot of things from Origins that were tedious or stupid.

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iceman08

I'm a PS3 owner. I like the fact that my games are consistently able to work on my platform without having to get newer hardware. I can't exactly afford the affordable gaming rig that i want, which would be about $1400 US. So it is a convenience for the consumer and a quick buck for the developers. Does that mean PC gmaing is "dead" or that "consoles have taken over?" Well, no to the first and maybe to the second. Your article pointed out that many PC gamers suffer lower quality(in terms of overall gaming, NOT just graphics) gaming due to ports. But that brings me back to a previous point: not everyone can afford a computer that can run Crysis. 

In an ideal setting, each game should be platform-specific. I've suffered through Xbox 360 ports in terms of image quality, but I'm not going to blast the 360 for that. They've had games I wished PS3 would have had. But since we won't see platform-specific games, we just have to tell the developers with our wallets.

And to restate another point you made: gaming is all about the fun factor. CoD and MGS4 fanboys(girls?) rant and rave about the graphics, Crysis fans do the same, as well as whatever graphically intensive game is available for 360. But the point of all these games should be about having fun. If you enjoy your titles, then thats great! If you can't enjoy it due to technical issues...time to pick up your assault rifles, strap your plasma swords to your waist, slap on that Nanosuit and charge the dev headquarters

 

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CleverBullet

It seems that you misunderstand PC gaming and PCs in general.

For one, a $1400 midrange PC will destroy a PS3 in terms of performance and versatility; you can't compare the two like that.

Secondly, my 3 year old $1000 BUDGET box can play Crysis; even so far as playing with all settings on high with playable framerates.

Even if PCs cost 2 to 3 times as much as a Console, what you get out of it is so much more.

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iceman08

I know PC's are higher in terms of performance, I never said otherwise. What I said or intended was that even at $1000 thats still pretty high for an average consumer. And because of $1000 or $600 or even $4000 rigs, many people will turn to the alternative. And thats what the developers want: a widespread consumer base. In terms of hardcore gaming, yes, there is an obvious market and a good sized one at that; but there are many more console users out there, and if the developer can push out a game thats sub par on a PC but look good on a console and STILL charge the same price for both, they're gonna do that.

On a personal front, I'd like to have what is considered a budget rig on this site. I'm even putting some of my tax return towards it. But with as many people that are in my age group at my economic status that own consoles, I'm gonna do what's best in value for me. And I still enjoy good graphics on a big screen.

PC will always be ahead of consoles; its a given. You also get what you pay for. But consoles are the target group right now and if you want to make money, thats where you're going to find clients. Money talks.

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Ghok

My friend, I probably make less money than you (well, who the fuck knows, lets just say I'm not wealthy). The reason I have a PC over an X-Box is because it's more affordable. I don't own a TV. I don't own a console. I have a computer. It is far more affordable to drop $1000 on a good computer, than a few hundred on a console, a tv, and a five hundred on a low end PC that doesn't play games well. Because in the end I'm using a better product. I mean, many people already want a TV or they don't need a PC since they need a laptop or whatever, I understand it's not the same for everyone. It's just that cost isn't the issue here.

Consoles are more popular for a variety of valid reasons. As a PC gamer I'm cool with that, and I do like quite a few console games. I don't have an issue with consoles, it's just that negative effects of consoles that I see in PC games that annoys me.

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