EVGA GTX 560 Ti 448 FTW Review

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r1davis74

"If you really want a GTX 570, but can’t swing the price, the 560 Ti 448 might fill the bill"

....should say " If you really want a GTX 570, but want to spend less money for similar (slightly better on these benchmarks) performance, the 560 Ti 448 might fill the bill.....

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digitalninja126

Should have used the classified version, Overclocked it can whip a gtx 570.

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Markitzero

I have the Regular GTX 560 Ti and I like it without the 448 CUDA Cores.

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tekknyne

I agree with dgmouse. This card looks interesting, but I can't justify spending $300 for about 25% more performance and trashing my gtx 460. About the most I'm willing to do at this point is casually browse ebay for another GTX 460 and put them in SLI. My friend just bought a GTX 580 for almost $500 going from a radeon 5770. I spent $200 on my gtx 460 and at most want to spend $100 on another. That's a total of $300 that stacks up nicely to his $500 card, and he had to spend the past 2 years on a radeon 5770 to save up for it.

It's good to start seeing some price points/circumstances where SLI and crossfire make sense. 2 years ago I would have never said that- just get the big single card.

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kzsolt

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mattyz

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kiaghi7

As I always tell anyone looking to upgrade a component when they have some money...

 

WAIT THREE MONTHS!!!

 

Every quarter there is some pulse of something, which off-hand sounds obvious and trite, but it's said that way because not everything pulses at the same time...

 

Right now, the pulse of hard-drives is likely high priced, so hold off on it, and give it either three or six months to start coming back. Meanwhile, in three months or so, new GPU's will be coming along that will obliterate today's standard and do two things, provide either a far more powerful card than the one you're considering now, OR make the one you're considering now far cheaper and still just as good as it was before the "new thing" came out.

 

Granted, you can't always wait, and waiting stinks... Frankly I'm waiting for my freakin' holodeck to arrive! Lousy subspace ordering... Got some lazy exo-comp on the line, even in the future you never get to talk to a live human(oid)! [a cookie for you if you caught the Trek references!]

 

But I digress...

 

It's a good card, and even more so if you just gotta have a card that isn't going to disappoint for the vast majority of apps, and can't rationalize diving in for a top-of-the-line card.

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dgrmouse

Since I obviously have your attention, let me make a prediction:  AMD/ATI is enjoying their last throes of contention in the mainstream gaming market.  They will soon (2020 or sooner) be relegated to markets that do not closely resemble the AMD that we knew over the last decade.  NVidia will either: 1) follow suit, albeit on a marginally longer time-table, 2) absolutely trounce AMD in the game they currently both play (the same way Intel is trouncing AMD in the CPU market at present), or 3) do both (1) and (2).  With their success in the incipient phone and tablet markets and HPC at the other end of the spectrum, it may simply be time for the megawatt home PC market to die.

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Woden501

Well I'm certainly glad I didn't wait up for this.  I was tempted to hold off on getting my upgraded GPU until this came out, but decided to go with a pair of 5870's for $150 each instead.  So now for the same cost I've got slightly better to way better performance.  I wanted to go Nvidia this time in case I ever decided I wanted/needed to work with CUDA, but there's really no reason to pay that much extra...

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carage

I assume by utilizing a 570 core means they screwed up HDMI bitstreaming again...

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warlok180

I currently have an Radeon 5850 and am thinking to upgrade it. However, I'm torn between moving up to another AMD card or an Nvidia 570. The 5850's been great and have not had any problems with drivers or gameplay.

Any suggestions?

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DU00

I wanted to do the same thing but decided against it, because I need 2 cards to replace my xfire setup. Wait for Kepler like blkpanthr said.

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blkpanthr

wait for the 7950, or kepler...

the 5850 stil does extremely well.  The only bad thing about the 5800 seriers is the tesselator stinks.

Its not worth getting a last gen card with new releases so close.

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warlok180

Thanks guys!!

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dgrmouse

It is mind-numbingly crazy that you would have to bump up to a higher price tier to upgrade a video board that you've had for years.  It's true, but it's crazy.  Unless you're upgrading your monitor setup to include multiple gaming displays or active 3d, I would recommend skipping ATI's 7xxx series.  Unless NV's 6xx series can deliver a single-card product as fast as a pair of 460s in SLI for under $200, I'd skip it as well.  The way ATI and NV are dragging their feet, I honestly hope that Intel's integrated graphics can kill off the discrete board market within a few years.

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blkpanthr

In waiting, he will also get the advantage of price drops in case he wants to stay with the current gen...

Also, the fact that he owns a 5850 and is looking to upgrade, puts him squarely in the mid-high end segment.  That segment upgrades generally every 2 product cycles.

What is mind-numbingly crazy to you, is thoughtful to others.

Not everyone has the same impetus/budget/requirements.. 

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dgrmouse

A new card that costs the same amount of money as the two year-old card he's replacing should provide significantly better performance.

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DU00

Thats when it starts becoming an economics issue about supply and demand. Most people want the newer stuff so it will naturally be more expensive, even if it is worse performance wise. Not everyone is as educated in hardware performance and comparisons as the people on this site.

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DU00

So you basically want them to double the performance of their chips in 1 generation? Probably not gonna happen anytime soon. Would be nice but...

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blkpanthr

hasnt happened since ATI's 9700pro and im not sure Nvidia ever has....

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dgrmouse

6800gs, 8800gt

 

It's not asking too much, honestly.  It happens so often in CPUs that it's been given a name... ever heard of Moore's Law? 

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blkpanthr

thtas 2 cycles, not 1.

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dgrmouse

I gave those as independent examples of cards that significantly improved the performance of the previous generation for less money.  The 8800gt was more than twice as fast as a pair of 7800gtx boards in SLI while costing significantly less money.

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blkpanthr

you misunderstand moores law.

it states: "The number of transistors that can be placed inexpensively on an integrated circuit doubles approximately every two years."

not performance

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dgrmouse

If you can't make a higher performing part while having a budget including twice as many transistors, then you fail.  You fail badly.

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blkpanthr

Clearly  you dont inderstand engineering

twice as many transistors DOES NOT scale to 2x peformance

ONLY if there has been a significant increase in performance of the  transistors themselves can it scale to 2x improvement...

This along with core logic efficiency upgrades are what give you massive perofmace increases.

just shrinkng themrot doubling them DOES NOT nessisarily mean increased performance of the transistor itself.

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dgrmouse

Yeah, because having twice as many pixel pipelines, ROPs, SIMD processors, cores, etc. doesn't help performance at all.  That's why quad-core machines suck so much more than single-core machines, and SLI is a myth perpetuated to take all your money.

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blkpanthr

those SIMD/ROPS and Pixel Pipllines are core logic upgrades, thye have nothing to do with doubling the transistor count, youve fundementially changed the core logic.  As i mentioned above.

With xfire/sli, you are talking about duplicating something, not doubling the size of one item.

besides, even dualcore/SLI/Xfire rarely scales to 2x...lol

anyway you slice it, a 20-40% improvment over Cayman is a fastastic engineering feat.

You are not going to see the kind of improvements you want anytime soon  without a fundemental semicontuctor technological breakthrough, as they have both a power budget, and a die real estate budget to work with.

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alexw1234

What I really want is to keep the performance of my gtx 560 ti, and make the card smaller and less power hungry. Eventually I hope/ dream that kind of gaming performance will be in intergrated graphics.

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blkpanthr

that DOES happen every generation...that 560ti perforamce will slowly move down the chain...5 generations from now, that performace will be entry level discrete....

look at the 9700, that what, 9 yeas ago?  Sandy bridge can beat that now...and thats integrated!!!!

The problem is, its a slippery slope...u say want to keep that performance, but games dont stand still.  5 years from now, it will require allot more power to stay cutting edge...

at some point, its going to require "realtime full reality rederers in 3d spacial displacement" to be beelding edge.....basically a Holodeck....

lol 

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Neufeldt2002

Gaming in a Holodeck would be AWESOME!!!!

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blkpanthr

i wholehartedly agree...its just a matter of time..

you like LA Noire?  think Picard and Sam Spade....lol

 

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Neufeldt2002

lol

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