AMD Radeon R9 290X is Still Hard to Find

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The Mac

This is why you cant find the damn things...

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTM5MjgxODY2Mzg0aWxaekVGOFVfMV8xX2wuanBn

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limitbreaker

I don't know whether I should be happy or angry about this, part of me feels like finding a miner on the street and punching him in the face because I want a 290x and I can't have one... On the other hand I'm glad AMD is making money and hopefully this will fund for more R&D.

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LatiosXT

You have to ask yourself: is AMD really seeing this money or are the retailers price gouging? Because as far as I know, the retailers can price gouge all they want without the manufacturer getting a single cent from their profits.

e.g., concession stands. Do you really think that whoever made the hotdog is seeing the $3-$4 the concession stands are overcharging?

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vrmlbasic

If the hotdog maker sees that 100% of the parties who buy their hotdogs are selling them at a huge markup then I would think that they would "get wise" and raise their prices, getting them a piece of the markup.

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The Mac

If the public already knows how much the reseller is supposed to be selling the hotdog for and is price gouging, the manufacturer raising the prices is only going to get the consumer pissed at them as well.

AMD has created an amazing piece of hardware at an insanly good price, short of halting shipping and opening their own store front, there isnt much they can do. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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praack

mantle? mantle? what a croc- newegg is selling mining kits with 3 video cards in a kit- when the card is not available as a single on the page.

yeah mantle......

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AFDozerman

I guess I was just lucky then. I was able to snag a 290x Twin Frozr from MSI. It's a shame so many won't be able to know the awesomeness of this card. Even. At 100 percent, it barley tops 70.

*turns to AMD*

Listen, AMD, with all of this money you've been making, you now owe it to us to turn the R'nD machine to full throttle. Steamroller was a huge improvement over the turd that was Bulldozer, and I hear you've been working on a native 16 core variant. You'd better deliver on this. You have the money, now show us what you can do with it.

--

I really need to stop posting on the internet drunk.

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vrmlbasic

If we can't get R9s then could we perhaps get a Steamroller AM3+ chip?

Perhaps we could get Excavator up and running in AM3+ before 2015?

C'mon AMD, give us something ;)

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The Mac

nice sentiment, but amd doesn't see a dime of that price gouging..

all that goes to the resellers.

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AFDozerman

So I figured, but they're still selling as fast as they can make them. That has to be worth something.

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Neufeldt2002

Must be an American thing. Most of the sites I look at I see plenty of R9's in every flavour.

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The Mac

Electricity is prohibitively expensive in most of europe, so mining isnt near as popular as in the US and Canada.

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Carlidan

Interesting. Just don't understand what the purpose. Even most people in gfx sites say bitcoining with 290 will just make cards die out quicker. Because they weren't meant to run 24/7 @94 degrees.

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The Mac

Bitcoins are too expensive to mine now with a GPU, and ASICs are much more efficient anyway.

its all altcoins now. Doge (doggie) and Litecoin being the biggest at the moment.

Sure, youll burn them out eventually. VRM2 runs over 100c in most case, but not before youve paid for them.

Thats really the whole point.

The real problem is when the next gen GPUs come out and all these 290s flood the second hand market after being beat on by mining.

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Carlidan

If they cash out, but most don't. And if bitcoin crashes before they cash out. They just got screwed. Or any of the other ones.

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The Mac

most actually do.

Or partially anyway to cover the hardware and the electricity.

There is some speculation going on of course, but a majority of people cash out when they see large flucuations in the exchange rates,

Personally, i think its just way too much effort. Ive got better things to do with my time.

Not the mention the carbon footprint. Its not for the environmentally conscious.

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vrmlbasic

But with all the money that you are raking in you can afford to plant a zillion trees (and make the carbon credit companies rich).

All the electricity that you buy will lift people out of poverty, so sayeth the 44th president of the USA.

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Carlidan

Gave up on getting a 290. Just waiting for the 780 to hit the price mark I'm willing to pay. 450-460 without taxes.

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borkbork

Mantle might offer performance gains, but not $200+ extra worth. I'm a longtime AMD fan, but if I was buying a new card now, I'd be insane to choose a 290X when I could pick up a 780ti for the same, or cheaper.

Keep expecting to see Nvidia to raise their prices now.. because, you know, they can.

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biggiebob12345

More like yet-another-paper-launch from AMD. As Ghost said below, idgaf because I only buy NV.

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vrmlbasic

The internet is rife with pictures of cryptocurrency miners with mountains of R9s. That is proof that it is not a "paper launch"; pix means it did happen ;)

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borkbork

You should care, it was the initial competition from the R9 series that led to the 780 price drop. If AMD can't compete in the high end range, you'll feel it in your wallets.

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acidic

a few guys over at guru3d.com are running 3-4 dedicated mining machines with each running 3-4 290x. they stated that mining has already paid for the machines in as little as a month. sucks to be a gamer trying to pick up one of these.

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The Mac

one guy on [H] posted a pic of 30 HIS 290xs on a pallete in his garage...all for mining.

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Ghost XFX

At this point, I couldn't care any more. Nvidia has won my patronage from here on out.

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The Mac

they are going in and out of stock everywhere.

If you are willing to site camp, you can usually grab one.

Newegg is price gouging the hell out of them, amazon seems to be less so, but still well over MSRP.

Surprisingly, the European markets seem to have more reasonable pricing where usually they are more than the NA market due to VAT.