AMD Radeon R9 290X Benchmarks

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Carlidan

Shit now I don't know what to get. The Nvida 770 is a good deal at the moment at around 330 dollars. But I haven't seen the price for Amd 290 yet. And will it even beat the 770 in performance.

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vrmlbasic

When will AMD come out with a chipset that has full PCIe 3.0?

The good ole 990fx chipset pounded Intel's face into the sand with its superior peripheral implementation (though Intel seemingly has a penchant for gimping its boards) when it came out but that was 2+ years ago and now Intel is roaring back.

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AFDozerman

My mouth is pouring right now. Can't wait to see the mantle-endowed benches.

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Xenite

They should of named it the AMD Titan Killer, and for half the price.

These numbers don't even reflect the Mantle advantage the card will have in Frostbite engine based game, which is another 15% boost.

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igoka

100C is when water goes into boiling state , water is boiling guys. If you are using your pc as heating applince than it's for you. Not for me .

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vrmlbasic

What water is boiling? The energy is relative: the 100C heat of the chip might only boil an infinitesimal quantity of water, similar to how pouring a cup of boiling water into a gallon of room-temp water doesn't cause the whole gallon to boil.

I can't wait to see this card with a better cooler. I'm somewhat surprised that AMD's reference cooler is so weak: the ball-and-chain on the Titan Slayer's ankle has an AMD logo on it lol.

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limitbreaker

Boiling temperature depends completely on atmospheric pressure and purity. :-)

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kixofmyg0t

Good thing the 290X contains no water.

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AFDozerman

What a coincidence... oh, wait...

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Carlidan

Holy fu**ing sh!t, that is pretty good price. That means the 290 range should be in the 350-400 dollar range. Woot.

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limitbreaker

The benchmarks Josh is showing us here doesn't accurately represent the cards, the only one that I respect is the firestrike score. Guru3d had some very balanced and unbiased scores using all the latest drivers. This review is done very poorly on many grounds, specially overclocking but I love Maxpc anyways and I forgive.

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acidic

i was going to post the same thing earlier. i'm not saying maxpc is biased but rather that the scores are off from other sites. i ALWAYS read hilbert's reviews of gfx cards before any others as he usually runs sli/xfire on day 1 release as well. i love maxpc as i've subscribed for over 14 years now but i just don't fully rely on their gfx reviews

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Veen

I agree with both of you, this is a poor review, where is the KICK ASS AWARD?... 10/10 score!.. Ohh wait, no Nvidia money if you do that right?... You can see what real reviwers say about this AMD R290x HERE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eai0oVdtsK4#

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Suijen

I'm more interested in what the 290 has to offer. It's the 7950 to the 7970; why bother paying $100 more for a card that's marginally better? If you look at the specs, the 290 is just a little bit down the wayside, but it's probably going to be tons cheaper.

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kixofmyg0t

If anyone is worried about the heat....don't. From what I've read in other reviews, AMD says that it's supposed to run around 90C. That's hot for sure but according to AMD that's what they designed the 290X to operate at so w/e.

Also, I wonder if the 290X will ever make it into MaximumPC's recommended builds. My money is on "No".

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LatiosXT

And yet when NVIDIA said the same thing about the GTX 480, everyone laughed at them.

Well I guess the card was pretty inefficient to begin with.

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kixofmyg0t

in "Quiet" mode the fan speed will not exceed 40%. In "Uber" mode it maxes out at 55%.

The clock speed will drop to keep the temp around 94C where AMd wants it.

What does all that mean? After market and water cooled 290X's are gonna put a big hurt on the Titan. I can't wait to see a Lighting 290X.

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Claymore

I see alot comments aimed at AMD's drivers and software development. Just to throw my 2 cents worth in, I owned and used ATI cards long before AMD bought them, 2 years ago i bought my first Nividia card cause it was cheaper at the time and though I would try the other side of the fence. Nothing but issues, drivers wouldn't fly, card power issues, now I realize how it could have been THAT card, THAT time, but goes to show how important consistency and first impressions weight heavy on us end users. I have since gone back to AMD, and had no issues at all, product wise or drivers.

Because of that 1 bad experience, I tend to shy away from Nividia and their products.

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Veen

I used to have an nvidia card because I thought they were faster... but I was wrong... Nvidia cheats with its drivers.

I agree with Claymore ;) it does shows how important consistency and first impressions weight heavy on us end users. and Ill add that honesty is even more important...

Cheating? really NVIDIA? C'mon,

Since then I have stop trusting NVIDIA simply because I am no fool to believe that Nvidia has faster cards...

Nvidia is just very good at cheating and lying...

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1048824/nvidia-cheats-3dmark-177-drivers

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/323961-33-nvidia-busted-cheating

http://www.geek.com/games/futuremark-confirms-nvidia-is-cheating-in-benchmark-553361/

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/54154-driver-irregularities-may-inflate-nvidia-benchmarks

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Ilander

...MPC, I don't know why your benches seem a little bit out of line for the AMD cards, but I seriously debate the use of 331.58 drivers for the nVidia side. I'd like to see more testing on new drivers before they're used in a review like this one.

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joshnorem

Why are you debating the use of the 331 drivers? What happened was they came in at the end of our tests so we used them for the 4K benchmarks, but didn't have enough time to retest the other cards with them. I'll try to get to that today.

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Ilander

Really, it's lousy that AMD is launching the 290X with beta drivers, but compared to the other sites, the nVidia numbers seem high. Now, if that's down to the drivers, that's fine so long as IQ is equal, but it makes for more variables. Sorry to be so picky, just trying to be as objective as possible here.

EDIT: Nvidia *is* claiming double-digit improvements in performance, which more or less puts it in line with your results based on the various and sundry benches I've read today; good on them for getting those results, but it does make the decision much harder, here, between the 290X and the 780. With the previous drivers, it was hands-down, the 290X gets my recommendation. So, because of the timing of the driver release, the performance, etc, I'd like to see a deeper drive into 331.58.

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Nastyman

I have been running both AMD in Crossfire and Nvidia in SLI on another rig and NEVER had any trouble with Drivers from BOTH company's.

Whoever is having problems with either driver don't know how to install video drivers.
All this is done with first killing the Antivirus in both cases.
To do it right you have to uninstall the old driver, run the Ccleaner registry section, or equivalent software to clean up the registry. Delete the old video driver folder and empty the recycle bin.
Then reboot the machine, cancel both pop-ups and install the new driver.

This method I have used for a long time and NEVER have issues with video drivers.

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Obsidian

In soon to be written future news; Nvidia lowers the price of the 780 by $100.

This is super news. Well played AMD! Make top-tier graphics less expensive for everyone.

Competition is great.

I'm reluctant to consider a product that requires a user to open the computer case just to turn it down for web browsing etc. The Uber switch seems uber stupid, and should have been done in software or driver detection.

The 94C temperature has got to be a large concern for many of the micro/small system makers (November 2013 issue of MPC). If trends continue, gigantic cases will occupy a smaller and smaller market share, making thermals and heat dissipation an important consideration. On the bright side this will probably win the space-heater benchmarks introduced in another story this week.

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Ilander

The switch does change default behavior, but it looks like you can change your power, temperature, and fan targets at the driver level as well, meaning the switch is just a shortcut without the fiddling if you know you want those settings. It would be better to just hit a button within Catalyst, but you can at least access the settings.

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The Mac

The switch just unlocks the fan cap and set default at 55%.

It has no other function.

Obviously if you arent in 3d mode, its not going to target 94 degrees.

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Cymek

In addition to the typo noted in other comments, the memory clock in the chart for the Titan should read 6GHz instead of 6Hz.

Great offering from AMD. These companies keeping pressure on each other is a win for fanboys of both.

The 94C is a little scary. I would be interested in how hard this hits MTBF numbers.

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joshnorem

Thanks - it's been fixed :)

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Chrisl2366

I'm so glad AMD is in the same ballpark and in some cases kicking nvidia's butt with a GPU that is fairly priced. I like Nvidia and I have a 670 now but Nvidia has become a very greedy company and they deserve to lose to AMD, I for one will be going team red on my next build which is coming quickly. Nvidia better bring their prices back to reality or they will come to regret their greediness. AMD needs to put intel in their place too. Just like another guy said it's getting very old these companies overpricing their Silicone. Good job AMD, your getting my hard earned money very soon

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brannank

I love the way AMD produces products that are dramatically cheaper than NVIDIA, inovate(see TrueAudio) and perform better as well in frame numbers. That being said, I still would purchase a GTX 780 due to better drivers, Physix, correct Frame Syncing and stability. As soon as Team Red gets up to speed with the Green Team in these critical areas I'll enlist straight away! All said though, BRAVO ZULU to AMD/ATI in producing great hardware for ridiculously good prices. AMD is indeed in my eyes-the The Peoples Hardware.

And to add some weight to what's already been said in this article, here's an excerpt from Tom's Hardware review, by By Chris Angelini and Igor WallossekIn

"in the spirit of getting massive performance at a substantial discount, then, I’m giving AMD’s Radeon R9 290X Tom’s Hardware’s Elite award—the first time a graphics card has received this honor, I believe, during my tenure."

Just Wow...

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Ninjawithagun

Typo...

"...the surprisingly low price of $549 is the clearest sign yet that AMD is dead set on hitting AMD where it hurts..."

Should read:

"...the surprisingly low price of $549 is the clearest sign yet that AMD is dead set on hitting Nvidia where it hurts..."

But, great article. I still wouldn't buy an AMD card if my life depended on it. Software driver development team is absolutely craptastic and produce completely unreliable/unstable driver releases. No thank you. I'll stick with the team that does it best - Nvidia FTW!!

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Veen

Learn to install driver... Ohh wait, just go buy yourself a console and get over with it...

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Cy-Kill

You've been beaten to the punch, someone [leorick] already pointed that out!

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Veen

Practice makes perfect...

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Sempai

Kudo's To AMD!

Beautiful job with the pricing folks. $549 is a fair price for the top card on the market. This $650-$1000 bullshit needs to stop.
I've owned Nvidia cards for the last decade. My 680 is still fine, but the pricing trends Nvidia have been attempting to set as of late makes me sick.

Titan performance at half the price? Take that Nvidia! You greedy bastard's!

Competition is a lovely thing. Now if we could only get AMD to put out a great processor to compete with Intel, they could force Intel off their fat asses.

/Salute AMD.

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Ninjawithagun

I completely agree with you on the exhorbant price range that video cards have reached. Competition is good, and right now AMD is the only competitor of Nvidia that can keep prices from reaching ludicrous or plaid. But, would I ever buy an AMD card at any price? NO WAY! Time and time again, AMD has proven they don't give a rat's ass about the quality control of their software driver development team. They produce unreliable/unstable drivers most of the time and rarely address existing issues with their products. No thanks. I'll stick to the company that does it best, even if I have to pay more...Nvidia FTW!!

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dgrmouse

This is the price/performance ratio that I expected when everyone moved to the current process. It's not that this card is such an amazing value, although the price seems reasonable for a device with such a massive die and memory bus width, but rather that the competing boards are ridiculously overpriced. It's good to see a $550 card that can outperform a pair of $750 780s in some scenarios.

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leorick

I'm not done reading yet but there seems to be a typo here:

"As you can see, on paper this is one hell of a competitive offering from AMD, and the surprisingly low price of $549 is the clearest sign yet that AMD is dead set on hitting AMD where it hurts, in price-to-performance."

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joshnorem

Thanks, fixed :)

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leorick

wow left it running for 3 days on a heaven loop? very nice, at least nobody has to worry about the temperature being at 94C ^_^

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leorick

on Page 2, under 4k Benchmarks,

"In the interst of full disclosure"