AMD Flexes Its First ARM Based Server SoC

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llmoore

I tried to build a home server using an AMD Opteron x86 processor but the cost put and end to that idea. I'm hoping that this new arm chip and motherboard will be cheap enough and there is a linix conversion to create a good home server.

AMD is good at keeping new designs under wrap we may see something exciting soon.

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Hey.That_Dude

Try the X2150 opteron if you need x86.

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John Pombrio

Does this board use ANY of AMD proprietary designs or just a revamped ARM processor? I thought they had their own server based CPUs. Have they done this before? I am surprised that AMD is putting out a major competitor's processor on their product.

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Hey.That_Dude

ARM is only your competitor if you don't have the rights to use its IP...
You really think Intel would bat an eye about this if they hadn't let their contract to use ARM IP expire back in 2006? Answer: No. We'd have Intel branded tablets running ARM right now.

On another note: I have a very strong hunch that this will support the SeaMicro Fabric technology they acquired, as that would make the most sense.

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John Pombrio

That is EXACTLY what I thought too about SeaMicro. It seemed strange that a majority of the blades it sold had Intel inside When AMD first bought it. Now there is a good replacement with a low watt/high powered chip.
But still, I find it strange that AMD would not build around one of their own processors rather than paying money to ARM for using its IP. they ARE in the business of selling AMD based blades after all.

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kixofmyg0t

AMD's first ARM chip...and they start off with Cortex A57's! That's HUGE in the ARM sector.

I see this as a safe way to invest in the ARM scene. AMD could easily add a few GCN 2.0 clusters and it would absolutely DESTROY nVidia's Tegra K1 in performance. Currently no mobile consumer device has a Soc with A57's. The Tegra K1 has 4+1 A15's and the Krait cores in Snapdragon chips are based off the A15 so they're essentially the same.

AMD could take this Opteron and cut 2 cores out, add in place 4 GCN clusters and clock them at 400Mhz and slaughter every other SoC on the market right now.

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Hey.That_Dude

They'd have to cut out a lot more. As in remove PCIe, Sata(maybe leave one for uSata or M2), ethernet, drop the thermals on these (8 core is supposed to run around 25W).
Then they'd have to put in some stuff... GNC, 802.11ac/n, embedded display port, eMMC (if no sata)...
That's a major hack job.

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vrmlbasic

GNC still exists? ;)

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Hey.That_Dude

Also, is anyone else thinking this would make a perfect "Personal Drop Box." The four core version would make a killer NAS/Streaming Server for homes. This could have serious potential on the consumer side.

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AFDozerman

I was thinking the same thing. They should seriously consider a consumer version, or something tailored towards consoles even.

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Hey.That_Dude

If they could stuff all that technology onto their x86 then we'd see even more competition with Intel. (Intel has PCIe3, AMD doesn't. Intel lagged on SATA-III, AMD didn't. Both are lagging on 10-Gb ethernet)

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vrmlbasic

I'm thinking that AMD might be better served waiting to release a new chipset until all the new features come out: SATA 4/Express, DDR4, etc

Though I am just trying to make myself feel more secure in the knowledge that my AMD motherboard from 2011 is still top-of-the-line as far as AM3+ chipsets go.

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LatiosXT

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/intel/ivy_bridge_pci-express_scaling/

PCI-Express performance is a moot point when both the GTX 680 and HD7970 are relatively unaffected until about PCIe 1.1 x4 speeds.

And is 10Gb Ethernet even necessary for the average home user? "But muh video streams" you might say... streams that take up about 3% of the total network capacity of a 1Gbps network. (This isn't really a number I pulled out of my rear, if we were to use a Blu-Ray stream, which is about 36Mbps)

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Hey.That_Dude

Now quadruple that for 4K (until h.265 comes out). Now stream to several PC's. I'm pushing gigabit limit with this senario (which I don't run into often with 1080p, but still.)
Moar tech!

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vrmlbasic

10Gb ethernet would be very useful as 1 Gbit has not only gotten "long in the tooth"-been en vogue for half a decade+ now-but 125 MB/sec is fairly slow when we're dealing with file sizes in the GBs now; Gigabit ethernet : 2014 :: 10Mb ethernet : 2000.

It is faster to transfer bluray rips (25+ GB) between 2 PCs via a speedy USB 3.0 drive than to use Gigabit ethernet. 10 Gigabit ethernet would rectify that, and be closer to the proposed & pending USB 3.1 speed.

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mhouston100

I'm with you, it's not so much the streaming but the transfers and backups and all that gear.

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AFDozerman

AMD has PCIe3...

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Hey.That_Dude

They JUST got that out the door, not even shipping/retailing yet. So I'm not going to count that.

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AFDozerman

Fair enough.