Amazon Bumps Minimum Order for Free 'Super Saver' Shipping from $25 to $35

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TheITGuy

I don't see what the big deal is here. That's still much lower than most sites and spending $300 on some others still won't get you free shipping.

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Nixon

Amazon Prime members run - - $39 per year if you're a student.

Holy crap, I never knew about that! Going to have to check that out. I guess I'll just give them my student card or something? Would prefer the money coming from my bank account and not the student account.

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promise7

i did this a couple of years back, i think all they need from u is ur school email address.

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lordfirefox

...And that's why I shop at NewEgg.

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Incognito

Yeah, well I hope you never have to return something to NewEgg because you'll be paying the return shipping, as well as a restocking fee if they are out of stock or you decide to buy it somewhere else. Amazon is completely no hassle on their returns. I used to be a fan of NewEgg until I got a DOA videocard from them once and they charged me to ship it back to them. I'm not happy about this Amazon news though... and lately they've been using LaserShip which is the absolutely the worst shipping service, bar none.

Also, NewEgg charges shipping on a lot of their items anyway and then ends up shipping it Fedex SuperSaver and it takes two weeks to get what you purchased.

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The Mac

yeah, lasership is attrocious.

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Damnlogin

+1
I always check Newegg first.

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devin3627

locally they are selling the geforce 560 for $220 and i go online and its $120.

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firefox91

Oh please. I was shopping for a new monitor and a BluRay drive and I found both of them cheaper at Amazon even factoring in the shipping.

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wolfing

I just cancelled my Prime this week. Realized they started charging taxes in GA a month ago. Previously I would just order from Amazon, but with the taxes I decided to check on other sites... Newegg had the same item for the same price, no shipping and no taxes. So, when all sites start charging taxes I may think of getting Prime again, but until then, it's loss sales for Amazon.

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vrmlbasic

I understand that. I don't understand why I should have to pay MD's 6% sales tax when all of my Amazon orders come from VA (5%), DE (no tax) or KY (still 6%). What is MD doing to deserve ALL of my sales tax when I'm ordering from a business based in another state?

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Incognito

Amazon doesn't charge sales tax in MD. At least not yet. I've had three orders with them this month and no MD tax charged. I just logged in and double-checked my last order from last week:

"Estimated tax to be collected: $0.00"

I agree that it does suck a big fat cork for the states that are being charged sales tax.

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jbitzer

don't you know you are owned by the state? Asking questions is dangerous. People who ask questions should be reported to DHS for unamerican activities.

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The Mac

Its called Use tax.

If you are going to USE it in a particular state you are required to pay sales tax in that state.

If you pay it in another state you may deduct what you payed from what you owe in the use state.

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vrmlbasic

The use tax seems as though it is shafting the other states whose infrastructure and personnel I use to have my order fulfilled.

Of course, Amazon is opening a distribution center in MD, and not just anywhere in MD but the business-hell that is Baltimore. Since they're desperate enough to do that then the "rumor" that they want to open distribution centers in all states and charge sales tax on all orders but use the centers to offer faster shipping to "compensate" has a beaucoup of credibility.

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jbitzer

doesn't matter what you call it, taxing something you own means you don't really own it.

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The Mac

Wether you like it or not, its the law. In every single state.

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jbitzer

Times change, so do laws. I'm hoping people are starting to wake up and realize how much is taken from them by the government that is supposed to be subservient to them.

But as stupid as people are I'm not holding my breath.

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The Mac

could be worse. You could live in the socialist EU.

Some of their tax rates are outrageous...

believe me, even with all the ridiculous nit picky taxes in the US, its still way less.

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jbitzer

Oh, I know all about the EU. But saying be happy I pay less taxes is like saying you should be happy your rapist didn't break your arm too.

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The Mac

lol

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Incognito

^^ what he said ^^

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Zstreek

First, I am a Prime member and I love Amazon. There customer service is the best of the best of the best.

About the sales tax, you are responsible for paying sales tax when Amazon does not collect it. That means if you are audited and have not tracked and paid the sales tax due you could face fines or jail.

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lordfirefox

I live in KS and I already get charged sales tax when I buy from Amazon so I don't owe them JACK SHIT!

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jbitzer

Not like they can prove it. And how often do states conduct audits?

Sales tax is a joke, I already pay wage tax, property tax, school tax, etc, exactly at what point is the money I make mine?

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vrmlbasic

Sales tax (not VAT) is the only tax type that I approve of as it is "voluntary" and doesn't involve the government getting its hands on my private property-my income-before I do. It also doesn't involve the government knowing where I work and how much money I make and it doesn't give them the ability to screw over my finances on a whim.

Income Tax is like "Prima Nocte" as seen in Braveheart: your lords get to have their way with your money before you do.

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Zstreek

The taxpayer has the burden of proof. You have to prove that you paid it. They only have to say that you owe it.

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jgottberg

This is very true. The burden of proof always lies with the tax payer. Unlike the legal system (or like it depending on what side of the fence you fall on), the burden of proof falls on the accused, not the accuser.

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jbitzer

Like I said, when's the last time you heard of a scary state tax audit?

I'll take my chances.

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jbitzer

Super.

I have prime and already get screwed with addon items. I think if Amazon wants to take on Walmart they need to bite the bullet and realize that people might only want a 4 pack of batteries, and having to make a $35 purchase to get them defeats the purpose of shopping at home. I might as well drive out and get them today if I have to buy a ton of crap from them to get the one thing I need.

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Spaztrick

The addon items tick me off so bad. The excuse is always that it's not affordable to ship the small item alone. Yet, every time I order an addon item it is shipped separately from the rest of the order... making their argument null and void.

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jbitzer

especially considering I'm paying an $80 as year premium JUST so I don't get shipping tacked on every time. I doubt they lose money on me since most of my orders are over $35 and would be free to ship anyway.

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thefuzz4

I love my prime shipping. 80 dollars a year well spent and the fact that you can share it with your household makes it well worth the money.

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John Pombrio

I am more worried about Amazon adding state sales tax for me in a month or so.

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vrmlbasic

If we're going to be assessed sales tax on internet orders then we should pay tax from the state in which the place we're ordering from is located. That would inspire the states to compete for business.

Amazon pushed for online sales tax to kill any up-and-coming competition. Sigh.

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John Pombrio

No, Amazon wanted the sales tax so it could open shipping centers in the state. That way they can have same day delivery.

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vrmlbasic

Which helps them stifle any sort of competition. Mandating that sellers be responsible for charging sales tax at the rates for each consumer's location, at the time of order, imposes a fairly substantial cost upon any smaller retailers.

Part of why eBay was against it.

Same day delivery is supposed to be a Prime-only offer. So I have to pay 40 bucks a year (80 in due time), sales tax AND potentially higher prices versus my local store on my Amazon purchases in exchange for a likely caveat-filled (eg:orders after X time come next day) same-day shipping plan? It doesn't seem worth it.

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The Mac

Its going to happen to every state eventually...

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jbitzer

Yep, stated are realizing that people weren't paying the tax that shouldn't exist on the privilege of living in their state and having to buy items. Sales tax is bullshit. They should make the taxes all on the business for the privilege of operating in the state. If a business doesn't have a storefront in the state, they are not getting any of the benefits of state infrastructure and shouldn't have to pay taxes.

Love the government thinking they need their hands in everyone's pockets all the time.

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vrmlbasic

A business cannot pay taxes. Only people can pay taxes, so every tax on a business is just a "stealth tax" on the public at large. Yay.

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The Mac

not true, busiesses are required to pay use tax just like individuals.

Also, Corporate Excise Tax..state and federal.

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usmckozmo

"Corporation are People, my friend" -Some Mormon dude

Source: 14th Ammendment via Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission

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jbitzer

Corporations are people. Just like a union is people, just like any association is people.

Legally and for tax purposes corporations are considered a legal entity so that every shareholder can't be personally sued when a company becomes liable for something. If you think that's a bad thing, you have mental issues.

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vrmlbasic

Corporations may be legally called people but they are not people in the sense that they can pay taxes. The cost of those taxes is passed on directly to the consumer via higher costs or indirectly to the public as the company takes the $ that it pays in taxes out of other areas, areas that could better the business (and thus the consumer) or hire new employees.

A business can't pay taxes any more than the floor you're on can. If you don't like sales tax but like taxing businesses to "make up the difference" then you should know that you're likely paying a "de facto" sales tax as those businesses will jack up the prices on their products to compensate for the tax that you support being assessed on them.

...if only we could have kept Milton Friedman alive.

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The Mac

Again, a corporation is considered a living entity.

It has voluntary congnative volition.

It pays the same taxes you do as an individual. Income, and Sales.

and some you dont. like excise, PPT, and inventory taxes.

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The Mac

not necessarily.

There are several forms of corporate entities that allow liability protection.

LLC/LLPs for example.

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Bucket_Monster

That sucks...